she lives in my *@#%^$* town
in greenfield park, right in back of my friends house.
"eyes on the prize violet, eyes on the prize."
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Robert Baltovich lives next-door to my girlfriends house.
Robert Baltovich ---->http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/baltovich_robert/
You're not a priest, let go of me.
I feel really bad for Robert Baltovich.
Another clear cut example of injustice in Canada (i.e. Guy Paul Morin). It's really sad.
I'm am however glad that the justice system has finally come to it's senses and overuled Judge O'Driscoll's original flawed ruling and granted him a new trial.
Even more importantly... thank God the public is behind him.
They should do a movie on him based on the book "No Claim To Mercy" .
https://www.amazon.com/No-Claim-Mercy-Elizabeth-Baltovich/dp/0140263985/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1465739190&sr=8-1&keywords=no+claim+to+mercy
Great read if anyone is interested.
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so what? get over it. she lived in my town for the whole start of her life. i'm not crying. unless you're a 14 year old girl, don't worry about it.
YOU TRIED YOUR BEST AND YOU FAILED MISERABLY. THE LESSON IS, NEVER TRY.
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Oh my god! I wish people would leave her alone. Shes not a threat. The only one you should be worried about is Paul, but he wont be out for another 13 years...maybe.
shareI hope homalka is harassed for the rest of her miserable life and I hope she has a short one.
I'm serious btw, just so you know I'm not being sarcastic or anything like
that, and anyone who knows this case, knows shes as evil as bernardo and maybe more so
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"Oh my god! I wish people would leave her alone. Shes not a threat. The only one you should be worried about is Paul, but he wont be out for another 13 years...maybe."
Do you really think that's true? Just because it isn't your initial idea to kill someone, doesn't mean that you dont have the power to walk away. She is dangerous in my opinion because even if she wouldn't do anything on her own, all it would take would be another person to influence her.
absolutely right. who will "brainwash" poor karla the "victim" next? what a load.
share"she's not a threat'....????????excuse me!!!!!!!!!!!!! it was her, not paul who decided to rape tammy. her own sister! any normal human being would dump their significant other if it was mentioned that they "wanted" a family member. they certainly wouldn't arrange a rape. it was all karla's idea, karla who obtained the drugs, karla who administered them. if you don't consider someone who came up with the idea for her sister to be raped, participated in that rape and then didn't pay for it in any way a threat, then what is a threat to you?
shareIt's interesting to note that no one died until Karla came into the picture.
It's also interesting to note that 2 out of 3 psychiatrists said that she's not remorseful and wasn't ready for release into the public...
And Paul didn't get life, he got Dangerous Offender, which means he's never coming out.
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"Paul Bernardo never committed a crime prior to meeting her."
Not true. He was already a serial rapist when he met her. With her, though, he moved up to murder.
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Paul raped and attacked women on May 4th, May 14th and June 27th of '87 before meeting Karla on October 17th of '87.
sharePaul raped and attacked women on May 4th, May 14th and June 27th of '87 before meeting Karla on October 17th of '87.
I stand corrected… he did commit a few sexual assault prior to meeting Karla.
why should people leave her alone? How is she not a threat? How is she better than Paul?
shareomg are u sure i live in scarborough ontario .and i would stay far away from her lol.
shareShe was a strong personality in her own right but was egar to please Paul. I believe she did go along with the crimes, taking pleasure in them but I believer she would have never acted on any such crimes unless she's with a male sociopath like Paul.
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Have you ever been with a best friend as a child/teenager and felt drunk from the pleasure you got from just being with them. A surrealness?. Karla had a co-dependent personality, in other word's she was did thing's out of a state of detachment - fear and thrill.
It alway's make's me wonder how people see karla as a threat, karla did not preform the act of murder on any of the victims, nor did she kidnap or torture them, she only assisted - at time's, because barnardo had her.
My father's friend is the one who found French - he heard from him, and i from my father later on some horrific details about what happend to the body that the public wasny made aware of - believe me, you if you have to have one behind bar's you want barnardo.
Look at it this way, without her testimony they wouldnt of had bernardo on the murders. Karla is sick in the head but she isnt any threat.
To jamie_gumb23...you'd better do some more research. Paul says Karla did the actual murders, Karla says Paul did. Karla, without Paul asking her, gave her own baby sister drugs and offered her poor sister to Paul as a sexual gift. Her own sister! That's not a threat? I understand codependency, but I also know that if she was in a relationship with someone like Paul once, she'll be in another one. We already know that she was recently dating another convicted murderer. And no matter what you may believe about a "state of detachment - fear and thrill", that in no way brings those young girls home to their parents.
shareI think a lot of people are taking the movie as what actually happened. I live close to St. Catherenes and it was all over the news. (i also have recently started redaing a few of the books on the case) ans trust me, she is just as mentally disturbed as he is. Like the person a few posts up whose fathers friend worked on the case, there is a lot of info we don't know but it is pretty much common knowledge that she is guilty of a lot more than she was prosecuted for.
shareWe are studying the case in Anthropology. From what we have looked at about Karla's sister, Paul was upset that Karla was not a virgin when they met, so he wanted to take Tammy's virginity instead. Karla drugged her sister when they were drinking and apparently Tammy choked on her own vommit when she passed out. That is one version we have gone over.
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"she only assisted"
She ONLY assisted?? ONLY?
Can you see something very wrong in that statement?
"she only assisted"
She ONLY assisted?? ONLY?
Can you see something very wrong in that statement?
These were my exact thoughts when I read that comment.
I believe she did go along with the crimes, taking pleasure in them but I believer she would have never acted on any such crimes unless she's with a male sociopath like Paul.
Maybe not, however we'll never really know, now will we ~ SHE DID DO THE CRIMES YET DID NOT DO THE TIME!!! Twelve years for setting up her sister to be raped and choke to death???? She's a true psycho. She's definitely missing something tht she would allow her boyfriend to rape her sister ~ not only allow it but set it up. I feel for her kid ... having a mother whom everyone in the world (or most who know about this case) want her dead! She's way too selfish and narcissistic to think of the implications of bringing a child into this world. She just got herself pregnant and voila, another innocent child's life is ruined!
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The terrible thing is, she DID do the time. The Canadian Government made a deal with her in order to nail Paul for the crimes. The video tape evidence wasn't yet found (or turned in by the lawyer) to be able to really have solid proof. Dna was still very new and Karla's testimony against her husband was very much needed. Her deal was 12 years, and while it was the sweetheart deal with the devil, it was what she was sentenced to. We can question the softness we have on crime, but we cannot question whether she did her time in jail as handed down to her by a judge. She was a willing companion, making her actions evil, but I don't know if Karla to the core is evil. I think she was impulsive and anti-social at times, the fake suicide attempts, the sleeping with Paul in a few hours of knowing him, ect. I just can't believe that she, without the right partner and motivations, could or would act willing (on her own) to this degree without Paul there to coach, force and convince her to. It was a case of the wrong people together and the degree of which a human is willing to bend and shape for another human being, or more so, the ability to push and coach one another to do things they would never do on their own. The ability to somehow justify the crimes to one another making their actions deadly. It's all about reading into the psychology behind it and piecing together what fits into their patterns.
While I do feel Karla is not a fit person to have a child, I cannot justify being big brother over someone.
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While I do feel Karla is not a fit person to have a child, I cannot justify being big brother over someone.
It's the travesty of justice that I am outraged over. When the tapes showed that she was a willing participant, the deal should have been revoked and a new trial should have been enforced. There is not much I can do about this situation except to express my outrage. That is what I am doing on ths board. My expression is not going to change her life. And it's not going to ease the future heckling from the schoolchildren her son will surely face. You know how cruel kids can be to each other. There is no way he will be shieled from the fact of who his mother is. He WILL find out sooner or later and that will be a very sad day for him. She should have never brought him into this world. She wrecked enough young lives ... she wasn't satisfied with that ... she has to ruin another one.
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Karla Homolka's weak 12 year sentence does not provide justice for the 3 young girls whos lives ended in the hands of herself and paul. way to go canada for releasing another sex offender onto our streets. i hope shes smart enough to stay as far away from st.catharines as possible.
shareI can't believe people are saying she's not a threat cos she wouldn't have done it if it wasn't for him!!
What happened to being responsible for your own actions?
By participating she killed them as much as he did surely!
The way the film made it look(this may be wrong if they haven't kept the facts straight!) is that she didn't give him up because her concience was playing on her. It was because he started being worse to her and she didn't like it! She would have quite happily gone on doing it if he carried on coming back to her and loving her!
That is so true that is exactly what I think!!!!!!!!
pink_hottie87 (Thu Mar 23 2006 19:28:55 )
Oh my god! I wish people would leave her alone. Shes not a threat. The only one you should be worried about is Paul, but he wont be out for another 13 years...maybe.
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Paul will never be released from prison. He has been sentenced to life in prison. Actually I believe he got 3 consecutive life sentences. he was declared a "Dangerous Offender," ensuring he will not be released on parole. He'll never be out again. AND, is in a cell 23 hours a day with only one hour out for excercise.in a small walled in yard. To protect him from other inmates.
He should be in Gen Pop if u ask me though!
Josie
Oh, well. You could probably beat her butt. Unless she's been working out in jail. But I think she's been partying so much she hasn't had time to work out. Go for her nose. She doesn't want to be ugly so she'll probably just give up.
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I'm just waiting to hear on the news that Homolka was murdered. That will do nothing to me except go ya good, its about time and forget about it...
Until I hear Bernardo was killed in jail and that will do nothing to me except go... its about time and forget about it again.
One thing I'm certain of, he isn't going to die of old age, its just WHEN WILL THEY get him
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Yeah Prisoners and Guards don't take kindly to rapists. Sometimes even the guards will pay the prisoners boxes of cigarettes just to get the imprisoned rapists. There is no question that he is going to have a tough life in prison. Prisoners imagine their own sisters being victims and want to avenge.
sharePaul won't be murdered in jail, he's in solitary and will be the whole time he is there, for his own safety. My opinion, Stick him in with the general public, let them beat gim to an inch of his life, save him just before death, let him recuperate in solitary then stick him back in with everyone else. Keep doing this until he finally dies of old age. And even that is kinder than what he deserves.
sharepost her address. I'll personally torture her (to death) like she did those poor girls.
"HOLY CRAP LOIS!" ~ peter griffin
Naw,
You don't want her to end up dead.
Then no one else can harass her to near death.
Surprised she's still alive...
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i SURPRISED SHES STILL ALIVE TOO. I hope people continue to harass her. seriously. i read details on the case. hauntingly sick/sad.
"HOLY CRAP LOIS!" ~ peter griffin
paul will never get out and to you people who think she isn't a threat. no matter how old you are. think if you had a 15 year old daughter. would you let her go shopping with karla? would you want her 100 feet within that crazy bitch?
shareWell, I wouldn't lock my little girl out all night because she missed curfew. How's that for a start in protecting your daughters?
I would NEVER lock my daughter out because she was late! Wtf kind of mother is Mrs Mahaffy? Lazy and careless, and Leslie paid with her life.
And RE Karla's sentence: yes, it's sick and disgusting she only got 12 years. Blame the courts for that; they made the deal. Not Karla, not her lawyers, the people who were supposed to be fighting for the VICTIMS. THEY failed Tammy, Leslie, Kristen, and the victims we don't know about. They let down the Canadian public. THEY should be beaten to within an inch of their lives as well as Karla and Paul.
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Wtf kind of mother is Mrs Mahaffy? Lazy and careless, and Leslie paid with her life.
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I'm pretty sure she didn't deliberately lock her out because she was late.
The daughter was upset and spent the day with friends. Whens he didn't show up, I'm sure the mother just locked up for the night figuring she was staying with friends- apparently it wasn't uncommon for her to not check in immediately with her parents.
I've never gottent he impression the mother was 'lazy and careless', more just a mother who locked up her house for the night thinking her daughter was safe elsewhere. Until you know the facts, you don't have the right to start comments like that.
Thanks to the above poster- I'd missed that comment.
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From what I remember about the case (read a few books, learned about it in law class, and being Canadian and the same age the victims at the time of their murders), the prosecution didn't know the whole story before making the deal with Holmoka. She is the one that turned over the tapes after making the deal. If this evidence was found prior, she would still be in jail.
I have read two 'versions' of this case, one where Holmoka was painted as a victim of Bernardo's and one where she was an equal participant. Which ever one, if you read them, still cannot ever justify what happened. I may not agree with capital punishment (moot point here in Canada), but I have no problem with someone (especially the French or Mohaffy family) killing either one or both of these monsters.
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Well, I wouldn't lock my little girl out all night because she missed curfew. How's that for a start in protecting your daughters?
I would NEVER lock my daughter out because she was late! Wtf kind of mother is Mrs Mahaffy? Lazy and careless, and Leslie paid with her life.
Quite the contrary. Debbie Mahaffey adored Leslie. Leslie was becoming a handful and running away from home. She was the typical conflicted teenager. The night of Leslie's kidnapping, her mother allowed her to stay out later because Leslie had gone to a memorial service for some of her friends who had died in a car crash.
BTW ~ way to be compassionate!!! NOT!
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About the only part you got right was that Debbie loved her daughter, and that she was a handful, running away, etc.
Her mother did not let her stay out later that night. The kidnapping occurred between 2:30-3am in the morning. That's not "late" that's waaaay past late. From what I recall her curfew was 11pm. She got home 3.5+ hrs later.
I grew up in the exact same Burlington neighborhood where Leslie was abducted, barely a 5 min walk from the court where her house was located.
16 Beauchamp Street. Chateauguay, Quebec, Canada.
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