Christie Dunbar redux


Many thanks to all the great posters over the past few days -- terrific stuff! -- and special thanks to Zuzuu for her insightful, detailed, and lengthy post yesterday on why she cuts Christie Dunbar "more slack" than the rest of us clearly do. Amazing psychological backstory, Zuzuu!

But I watched "In your Face" again and I stand by my original assessment: Christie Dunbar is -- and is being written as -- an emotionally unavailable and judgemental woman. ("Close the door behind you . . . good night." Are to infer by this that Our Hero slept on the sofa?) Yes, Zuzuu, you goddess of the board, I take your points that when Jim dreams or daydreams about life before he lost his sight, Christie is always at the center of those fantasies. But maybe that's the point: she is a fantasy. The Christie we see in those flashbacks -- the woman who hangs on his every word and laughs at everything he says and clearly thinks he hung the moon -- has very little to do with the reality he lives with. Maybe there are two Christies: the icy, passive-agressive and utterly self-involved woman with unresolved issues, and the warm and loving dream.

But isn't that just one more example of how cleverly and complexly constructed this show is? Doesn't it just prove, once again, that writers know what they're doing? Wouldn't it be just a tad boring if Dunbar went home to a sweetly understanding helpmate every night?

Isn't it ultimately more interesting that not one single aspect of Jim Dunbar's life is uncomplicated?

Thought, anyone?




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I can't resist adding my two cents' worth to this one. I think there's a lot more going on here than Christie being cold, emotionally unavailable, and self-absorbed. She is all of these at times, but in the Dunbar marriage, emotional unavailability is a two-way street. It was pretty well established in the first episode that Jim has basically been emotionally unavailable to her, too, at least since he lost his sight. At times, each of them tries to reach out to the other, sometimes with appparent success, but then they to revert to their old patterns of behavior, in a "one step forward, two steps backward" kind of dance. And at other times, the attempt to reach out is rebuffed.

I frankly would be surprised if they didn't have problems with communication and emotional availability. After all, their marriage was hit with the double whammy of Jim's infidelity and blindness. I think they are simply two people who are trying to cope with a very difficult situation, and not always succeeding. They are not handling it in an ideal way, but their efforts to deal with the situation, while flawed, seem human and realistic to me.

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I frankly would be surprised if they didn't have problems with communication and emotional availability. After all, their marriage was hit with the double whammy of Jim's infidelity and blindness. I think they are simply two people who are trying to cope with a very difficult situation, and not always succeeding. They are not handling it in an ideal way, but their efforts to deal with the situation, while flawed, seem human and realistic to me.
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This is pretty much exactly what I was trying to say in my earlier post although sometimes words fail me and I don't quite get my message out for which I apologise. Well put mlm282.
Also realizing that we know a lot more of Jim's backstory than Christy's which isn't out of line since Jim IS the main character.


Ladies don't start fights... but we can finish 'em!

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And for any number of reasons Christie doesn't feel like she can lay this out for Jim, either because he won't get it or he won't even try.
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Nicely put, Zuzuu, as always. And, as always, I have some thoughts. I have been reading over your posts and I think I might have been too hard on Christie . . . but then again, the fact that the relationship between Jim and Christie is so complex is one reason of many why we continue to be glued to this show.

On reflection, I'm not completely convinced that she came out of the past year with any sort of renewed confidence or strength. I think she's still carrying around old damage that either she doesn't want to confront her husband with -- we've all seen how well he responds to those tell-me-how-you're feeling discussions -- or she is simply afraid to bring up. She really did try to reach out to him in the early episodes and was constantly rebuffed, and maybe she's just shut down a little bit. You can easily make the case that Dunbar is a bit of a sexist in his need to "protect" the women in his life. Maybe he just wants to attempt to control what he can, when there is now much of his life over which he has limited or no control. Hmmm. And part of his stiff-necked attitude, which has been softening over the weeks, is that he is a proud man.

So. Is she going about it all wrong? Could be. Granted, she wants to include him in her life, which is why the Boston trip was so important to her and why her reaction to his negligence was so furiously icy. But a publishing conference? They couldn't just go away for a nice weekend at the shore? Ever been to a publishing conference? Dee, you, ell, ell, dull. And of limited interest if you're not in the business, that's for sure. Power Point presentations, panel discussion, cocktail parties where you network . . . and why in heaven's name would she think Detective Jim Dunbar would be interested in any of this? (Personlly, I'd take Hank for a nice long walk on Boston Common.) So I have to think that the conference was a non-starter from the outset. Makes about as much sense as Jim wanting to take her along on a case.

And here's something else to consdier, something that may be at the root of her distress. Clearly, as Zuzuu says, the year before Jim got his job back was about "getting him back on his feet." Well, he's almost there. He's closing cases, he's been judged fit for duty, he's formed solid working relationships with the rest of the squad: he and Karen are back on good terms, Marty's pretty much come around, Selway was always quietly willing to give him a chance, and Lt. Fisk has come to value his work. In a lot of ways, and ways that count, the old Jim is back. Maybe Christie feels like she's just waiting for the other shoe to drop -- the other shoe, of course, being his infidelity. If he's doing everything else he used to do, she may be thinking, then what's to stop him from cheating again? He has said repeatedly that he's "not the same guy," but is she really hearing him?

If there's a second season, I vote for couples therapy with Dr. Galloway -- and tell me we wouldn't all like to see those scenes!



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Ever been to a publishing conference? Dee, you, ell, ell, dull. And of limited interest if you're not in the business, that's for sure.


This is exactly what I thought... why would Jim even want to go to her conference? Would he have even wanted to go when he could see? Christie will be in meetings all day, probably a cocktail party or two in the evening, and beyond that, he doesn't seem real interested in her professional world. Remember him standing by himself at Clay's? He's not exactly one with that crowd..

And now that he's blind, what's he going to do all day in a strange city? "See" the sights? Stay in the room until she has some free time?

Jkendaljr, I agree -- make it a weekend away so they truly have time together. That's what they really need, not him tagging along to her conference and being by himself all day long... he might as well stay in NY and solve another case. But we're shooting for drama, and a nice weekend away doesn't make a dramatic TV show.

I am really enjoying everyone's long posts... there are so many possibilities that I haven't thought of. It makes me wish the show was on more often than once a week... and we've only got several episodes left before summer... WAAAH!

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Thoughts on Dunbar's character and cops in general . . .

The Job attracts, and always has done, a certain kind of man: proud, confident, and utterly convinced that through his efforts he can make a difference in people's lives. 'Twas ever thus.

So if Dunbar is a bit of a control freak, or if he wants to protect the women in his immediate sphere of influence, should we be surprised? I mean, these are not guys who generally spend their days off writing haiku and baking scones . . . .

Thoughts, anyone?

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Talk about surprising -- guess who suggested counseling? Hey! couples therapy with Dr. Galloway and we don't even have to wait until next season. We just have to wait until next week.

Looking forward, as always, Zuzuu, to your detailed and intuitive analysis of this week's episode . . . .

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