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I need help with something.


Hi can anyone give me a link or tell me were to go to get full info on how much content can be in a movie before it's givin a certain rating? Or could you tell me were I can find that on this site? Thank you.

"I don't care if the glass is half empty or half full just as long as there's whiskey in mine." -Old irish Philosophy

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Dude I'm just asking, I want to be a director/producer someday and i want to know how this ratings system really works. I've only learned so much from watching movies. I just learned the other day about appeals but still don't know much about the system. I was just wondering if someone could help me with that. Sorry I ruined the whole messege board experience for you.

"I don't care if the glass is half empty or half full just as long as there's whiskey in mine." -Old Irish Philosophy

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"Why are you americans so uptight about ratings and the word F U C K ???"

And why are NON-Americans (especially Canadians) so obsessed about Americans? Can it really be that boring up Canaduh that you have to sit around and compare yourselves to Americans all day?

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"Why are you americans so uptight about ratings and the word F U C K ???"

And why are NON-Americans (especially Canadians) so obsessed about Americans? Can it really be that boring up Canaduh that you have to sit around and compare yourselves to Americans all day?

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Sh!t guys all i want is some f ucking info on movie content I don't want an argument in my messege board. Please guys can't we all just get along?

"I don't care if the glass is half empty or half full just as long as there's whiskey in mine." -Old Irish Philosophy

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Whiskey...
Generally the MPAA has a one *beep* limit before a movie goes from a pg-13 to an R, but those idiots pretty much make up the rules as they go.

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Yeah but I mean R rated movies. Like The Boondock Saints for example. I watched it with the director's comentary and Troy Duffy said that the MPAA were gonna make it NC-17 if he didn't cut some stuff out. Up until then I thought anything goes in R rated movies until I heard that. So what I would llike to know is what the limit is for R rated movies. Cause I watched Saving Private Ryan recently and thought "With as graphic as this is why the f uck did they make Duffy cut The Boondock Saints?" I mean how much more graphic could it have gotten compared to Kill Bill and Saving Private Ryan? Why would they make him cut a couple head burst shots or squib shots (or whatever's in the uncut version) when Uma Therman was chopping the crap out of a bunch of dudes? I want to be a director someday and make whatever I want without having to worry about cutting the good stuff out. I guess evrything is done with bribes now. It's not just violence either. I heard about this Martin Lawrence stand-up comedy movie where he says f uck so many times that it was given an NC-17 rating. Here's what I'd like to know:

How many times the f uck can be used before an NC-17.
How much blood can be spilt/splattered before an NC-17.
How much Nudity can be shown before an NC-17.
How much drug use can be shown and how graphic to make a movie NC-17.

I'm not trying to be bossy or start fights I just wish I knew a place where i could know the limits. Like a guide book or something to movie content.

"I don't care if the glass is half empty or half full just as long as there's whiskey in mine." -Old Irish Philosophy

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Well i can try to anwser some of your questions the best that i can. The MPAA is a tricky thing lately, i dont really understand why they rate somethings what they do but hell thats their thing.

I think that f uck can be used as many times as the director or writer wants without worrying about getting a NC-17 rating. No movies come to mind that have been rated so high just for language alone. Your Friends and Neighbors was rated NC-17 for graphic sexual dialogue but not for cussing so it doesnt count.

When it comes to blood there are a lot of movies that come to mind that have been cut down due to violence. Most of the time you can have a lot of blood or violence but the scene cant be too long. For Instance in High Tension the scene where France's character is hitting the guy with the barbwire had to be cut down a few seconds because without doing so it would be too much for an R rating. So when it comes to blood, A LOT can be shown but it has to be in a certain way, or adjusted later in editing. SAW also had to be cut down and colors adjusted because it was orignally rated NC-17.

Nudity is also a trciky thing because some movies have alot more than others yet some are rated NC-17 rather than R. Prospero's Books has more nudity then any movie i have ever seen, full frontal from males and females and i wouldnt be suprised if 100 people were nude in the movie-Yet it got an R rating probaly becasue all of it was in a non sexual way. When it comes down to it, more nudity can be shown if it is in a non sexual way. IF you start having sexual content and potrayed sex it will most likely get NC-17 like The Dreamers got. Also most movies with male nudity are cut down because the MPAA doesnt let that slide as easily as female nudity, especially if it is frontal.

And with drug use i dont know of any movies not being able to get away with what drug use was shown. I think some filmmakers set a limit as to what they show since most of the time you can see everything they filmed for it. I know the least about how much drug use can be shown but i would think they can do what they please.

Hopefully that helped you.

"And Its cold outside, and i can feel the winter..."

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Thank you dude that helps.

"I don't care if the glass is half empty or half full just as long as there's whiskey in mine." -Old Irish Philosophy

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Glad that i could help another future director.

"And Its cold outside, and i can feel the winter..."

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The best answer is that MPAA ratings are arbitrary. There are some vague guidelines about sexual content, nudity, violence, drug abuse, harsh vocabulary, talk about sex, and so forth. But when it comes down to details, it's all an arbitrary decision by an unaccountable secret committee. One can appeal, which appears to mean little more than going through the same process again. Usually, the chance of success depends mostly on how much power the movie-maker has to exert pressure on the MPAA, although occasionally someone succeeds mostly on the basis that the original rating was stupid.

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