too many rappers? - Gunner Palace (2004) Discussion

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[–] timarez 19 years ago

yes, too much rap. and while i'm at it... rap is a very easy-to-overuse art. unfortunately, every poor kid from the inner city now seems to think that rap can save him. sorry y'all. rap is not the true way. talent is not just learning to repeat some inane (look it up) rhymes about your (sigh) sad upbringing and (groan) hard life on the (ugh) streets. get a new "art". find a real talent within yourself! and grow the *beep* up!

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[–] matson-2 19 years ago

Why not enlist and go over to Iraq before you start complaining that your not seeing enough military action. Anyone who wants to see other people getting killed is just a complete uninfomred, ignorant, unpatriotic republican chickenhawk. Want to see death? Visit rotten.com and enjoy!

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[–] matson-2 19 years ago

The rappers and the guitartist were the best parts of this movie. Sorry, just my opinion.

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[–] tech12 19 years ago

Its obvious most of you don't underdstand hip-hop. You can criticize all you want, but why don't you save the judgement until you actually know what you're talking about. I'd like to see you try freestyling like the people in this movie...good luck is all i can say. The soldiers were only expressing themselves in a certain form of art. Would you have been more happy if all them were playing orignal compositions on pianos and singing at the same time? What's the difference?

Furthur more, how can you say the movie doesn't show enough combat? It's a documentary, and simply shows what was experienced. Also, take into account that this film was made before combat started really heating up in Iraq.

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[–] bottomendi4 18 years ago

Wilf and Little E were the creative face of the soldiers. Argue what you will about their talents as musicians, they were the SOUL of the film because they could translate their experience in Iraq through their ability to make music. If there was "too much rap" in the film, then you've missed the point. This film isn't about music, and to a certain degree it's not even about combat. It is about the experience of ordinary people coping with extraordinary circumstances, and dealing with these circumstances in their own way. I feel proud for them and their efforts as soldiers, and even more so because they can rock the mic or the guitar. "Too much" of anything in a musical case doesn't mean S**t when you are giving your LIFE for your country. Big ups to Little E and Wilf, and I pray they have or will come home soon.

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[–] GraeShadowe 18 years ago

What I find unusual is the amount of rap in this film. It ruined it for me, if I wanted to hear that crap, I'd drive to dangerous parts of my town. I also find it odd that there are no rappers (that you hear of) that come out in support of the soldiers. You've got Country Artists out the wazoo that write songs about, for and dedicated to the Military. I don't recall any other type of "music" (using the term loosely) than rap in this movie.
Sorry, but the experience of ordinary people are not limited to rap.

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[–] interlingua_usa 17 years ago

Agreed. Too many rappers in this movie and they were of poor quality. If you read the info at the bottom of the screen, you'll see that almost none of them were "inner city"....or even "outer city". The vast majority came from one-horse towns and that explains, I think, both their desire to rap to get some attention and their minimal skills. These are small-town kids right out of high school who, on the whole, don't know how to rap. They want to sound like the big boys from LA and New York, but they sound like small-town yokels from some little specks on the map.

They might be good people, but they weren't good rappers.

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[–] senecadoane 17 years ago

Seriously... it amazes me the coded language that we use to make racist comments that we don't even have to admit to ourselves that we've made. "Too many RAPPERS?! Really?! I know you're probably NOT an overt racist. I know you probably don't even think that the things you say and think and and write have anything to do with race, but the fact remains that I've heard a hundred comments on this movie that mention the excess of "rap," but only two or three that have said the same thing about the heavy metal riffs or the acoustic guitar music, or the middle-American strutting sex banter for that matter. No... the problem is always "too much rap."

I guess it's just a big-old-innocent coincidence that the majority of scenes where black soldiers express their feelings about the war are scenes that show free-styling rap.

Before you jump all over me and say I'm being too "PC" and seeing racism in everything, just remember that I'm not calling you a conscious racist. What I'm saying is that our whole damn culture still is filled with racist undertones that come out in exactly this kind of unintentionally coded language. Just think about what you're saying any time you type something on the InterWeb.

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[–] furrymustards 16 years ago

I hate rap. It's just talking. No talent *beep*

And I'm brown!

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[–] DarkGoeie 16 years ago

I really felt the costumes are overused. Really, do they ALL have to wear the same body armor?

Wait! That's what they really wear there?

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[–] sljones44 16 years ago

"yes, too much rap. and while i'm at it... rap is a very easy-to-overuse art. unfortunately, every poor kid from the inner city now seems to think that rap can save him. sorry y'all. rap is not the true way."

said the same thing about rock and roll in th 60s.

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[–] Woodyanders 16 years ago

I thought the rappers were great; their songs eloquently spoke volumes about their thoughts and feelings pertaining to fighting in the war.

"We're all part Shatner/And part James Dean/Part Warren Oates/And Steve McQueen"

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[–] LovelyJennifer 15 years ago

It got old after a while

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[–] CaeserOct0 14 years ago

Well, I will agree that the amount of rapping in this movie is a bit much for a movie not about rapping. That being said, this movie is not about rapping.

It's about soldiers showing and describing the conditions under which they fight. And some of that description is through rap, as many of them come from urban neighborhoods and families where said form of music is commonplace.

That's the way they best knew how to express what they were feeling. You'll notice anyway, that most of the songs were about the war. I guess if they started rapping about how much bling they have or how they fornicated with a shorty, I'd be tempted to get much more annoyed.

But meh, it's part of their life over there. Let the movie just show it.

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