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SPOILERS AHEAD; For those who saw episode 13

posted 18 years ago by lavender1905
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Does anyone else want to scream?

The only real criticism I have is, how could they not look "There"?!?!
Wouldn't that be like the first spot you would think of after finding out she was still alive?

Well it certainly leaves a lot of openings for another season. For one thing, I am not even convinced that that was Laura's body, or even a human body at all in the window. Did anyone else imagine her being preserved the way Bruno's mama is? Not for any reason I can think of, just the grotesqueness of it. She could still be alive somewhere. We could hope.

The bizarre storyline of the Russian roulette games was never really explored, and now that we know there is photographic evidence (?) of Marina shooting her mother, I suppose that season 2 wouldn't even need Renzo and could be all about Marina. I wouldn't want to see that though. He has grown on me. He looks kind of 90% an aged Bruce Springsteen on a really bad day and 10% Kevin Spacey on a good day. His appeal is all in his personality. Towards the end there I think he only buttoned the bottom button on his shirt. Pretty funny, not real professional looking ha-ha.

I was totally hooked and hope there is a second season. I also hope HBO gets their act together with a board on their site. This one is fine but not everyone thinks of coming here.

Jill, watching in Milwaukee.

[–] lavender1905 18 years ago

One more thing, I thought that at some point the ex-husband might be somehow involved. I also worried about Bruno getting his hands on Nico, Laura's son. It looks like there is a picture in the opening credit sequence of a child with duct tape over his mouth. Don't know if I could have handled that.

Hey, maybe with Laura presumed dead she can snatch her son from Mickey Mouse Landia and they can be together. Except that I want all the good guys on this show to end up happy when it is all over! Renzo, Laura, Nico, Renzo's dad. And the mysterious Marina? We know very little about her.

Jill

[–] pete2141 18 years ago

Wow what and ending. Jimenez and Renzo were all over Marina concerning her Mom's death, then Jimenez watches Renzo murder Bruno and does nothing about it. I got no problem with that, but how are they going to explain away all the bullet holes in Bruno? At one point I thought Marina was going to take the body down and burn it in the fire so as to destroy the possible evidence against Renzo. It is weird that Renzo and Marina are suicidal. I wonder how that's going to play out if there's a 2nd season? I hope there's going to be a 2nd season but the significant of the title will change since Bruno died, don't you think?

Pete, Delaware

[–] lavender1905 18 years ago

I was kind of assuming that Bruno was wearing a bullet-proof vest and Renzo was hitting more bags of blood while shooting him up on the "cross". With this series we have been trained to not believe *anything*, until it has been proven beyond a doubt. It never even registered with me that Jimenez was watching Renzo do the shooting. I got no problem with that either...except that in the show, this is what that demon Bruno was actually counting on, so that Laura would die. "I still have more to tell you, Renzo........". AHHH! I'm screaming like the woman finding the body in that overplayed teaser.

Since Renzo has these suicidal tendencies maybe he will be tempted to play Russian Roulette when they can get a game going again. Could that Carlos guy who runs the games look any more Russian?

Speaking of Renzo and his mental state, one thing that has mystified me in the show is the attitude toward what I thought were the antidepressants that Renzo sometimes gobbles. Remember when he bought them from "Clara?". Sometimes he has pills that look like Prozac, and those big pills in the blister packs look like "Equalactin" for irritable bowel syndrome, ha-ha. I suppose medicine looks different in every country. But the thing is that here when you go to a doctor they practically insist that you take antidepressants, for everything from a headache to a sore toe. And I know it's not just me! I wonder if they were meaning that he was on some kind of valium-like drug, or if the attitude is different (perhaps healthier) towards anti-depressants in, say, Argentina. Patri?

Also, I agree that they might have to find another way to make the title fit with Bruno gone. Maybe emphasize the epitaph of the "stiff of the week" kind of like on Six Feet Under.

Jill

[–] hotpinksnoopy 18 years ago

Wow.

That was all I could say.That and "Shoot his a**,Renzo!!".I do think that was Laura in the grave.I can't see how there would be a second season,seeing as how Bruno is dead.I was kinda hoping he would live,somehow.He was certainly a creative killer.

Carol in NY

[–] atrus44 18 years ago

Well, I don't know that a second season of Epitafios would have to really be a second season of Epitafios, if that makes any sense. If not, let me explain - the series I believe was supposed to be a one season miniseries. Bruno is dead, Laura is dead, those stories are closed. Renzo and Marina are still alive, the underground Russian roulette story remains unresolved, and more importantly they are still cops. The second 'season' could easily carry on in this universe, but the series may not be called Epitafios, as such a title for a non-Bruno season would be unfitting and make no sense. I think that, if there is to be a second season as Julio Chavez (I think that's his name) said there will be, it will be another miniseries in the style of Epitafios where if it only lasted a season, it could stand on its own as its own, unrelated show. Of course, it could still be related to Epitafios with the roulette case and Renzo's coping with the death of Laura while they still work on another case (wouldn't have to be a serial killer). So, if there's a second season, I predict it will have a totally different name, but have the same characters in the same universe.

Pat, TN

[–] pete2141 18 years ago

How about (Buenos Aires) BAPD Blue? LOL

[–] lavender1905 18 years ago

Excellent points, Pat.

Slightly OT, this board is a little screwy. I did not see this post or the "BAPD" post until today, but I saw posts that came after them. Also, there was no reply button for me to use and I tried a number of times. Oh well.

[–] pete2141 18 years ago

Maybe Bruno's Dad could come out of the Serial Killer closet and take up where Bruno left off?

[–] MetalFingers 18 years ago

A prequel would be amazing. They can use the same characters and get into Benitez as well. Maybe even show some background info on Renzo's father. I think thats a resonable direction to go in. Epecially because Bruno is such an important part of the series. I just think continuing the story at this point would be a bit redundant.

[–] lavender1905 18 years ago

Yes, I like both of theses ideas. Bruno's father was conspicuously absent towards the end. We know Bruno had other people helping him earlier, why not his father who has access to all that funeral home space and equipment. The revenge motivation is there, Renzo killed Bruno.

The prequel idea is also exciting. I also want to know about Renzo's father. Didn't he tease us in one episode with a "never mind how I know this person" answer that led us to believe we would be let in on some of his history? I want to see more of Renzo's father either way. I am also interested in the professor who began the original hostage situation. There are so many ways they could go. I'm really hoping this is not the end.

Jill

[–] pete2141 18 years ago

I love the prequel idea. Maybe if they read this thread we'll get the prequel next season and Bruno's Pop in season 3.

Pete

[–] agrigentosicula 18 years ago

Wow! I love this show and I am so very glad other people do too!

I think a prequel would be the best way to go. After all, most of the key plot elements are gone as it now stands; both Laura and Bruno are dead. In a macabre way I was hoping Bruno wouldn't die because his character was the impetus for all the twists and changes in the plot of the show (plus, Antonio Birabent is really nice to look at! He's a famous Argentine singer/actor by the way). I think after a prequel (or maybe even woven into the prequel plot) we could explore Bruno's dad a bit more.

[–] tonemgubbdmi 18 years ago

By the way, did anyone else get the sense that Renzo's Dad was the "other man" for whom Marina's mother left her marriage to Marina's father? I strongly got that impression, stemming largely from Renzo's father's reluctance to discuss AT ALL the circumstances surrounding Marina's father's death...particularly since I think he also mentioned that the two of them (the two fathers) were partners on the force. That would set us up for some pretty good plot twists in season two, if Marina learns this information. This is either an Easter Egg in the script or one very tired girl's imagination run too far... ;)

[–] MrCrimson85 18 years ago

Wow good catch, i was wondering why he was so cryptic about that. your idea makes a lot of sense. Me encanta Epitafios!

[–] patricioxxi 18 years ago

Hi! I'm from Argentina. Roumors say that Hbo, along with Pol-ka (the producer company) are willing Cecilia Roth (Marina) and Julio Chavez (Renzo) to be part of season 2 of Epitafios. There no words involving Bruno or Laura. I beleive that they are very very dead. I think there will be a copycat or something like that. Maybe the case is not that closed and there is anybode else involved in the Epitafios case we did not know yet...

[–] estnyfnst 18 years ago

well the reason why marina played russian roulette was because her father killed himself so she does it as a way to prove something maybe that she is not like him she does it since she was 17 years old. She told the guy that arranged the game to get out of town because she was the cop that was investigating the case of the men with the head wounds and that she was going to go back to capture him.

[–] badjuju_00 14 years ago

LOL. the shirt thing got a bit silly.