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Is this what Eleanor Roosevelt was really like?


Hi there, everyone! Would anyone be able to tell me if this film depicted Eleanor Roosevelt's personality accurately?

It made her appear shy at first, acquiring greater confidence with time and eventually becoming quite outspoken -- which seems to fit what I've read about her.

However, it also made her appear quite friendly and down to earth, even cheerful; some other sources seem to suggest that she was rather more serious and formal, maybe even a slight bit snobbish.

Does anyone know what she was really like in person?

Thanks!

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There's a wonderful children's book called Eleanor, that talks about her childhood and how she was raised. Eleanor was, indeed, very shy as a child and it stayed with her as she got older. She aquired confidence because it was expected of her.

When you are one of the most respected women of the 20th Century, are a tireless worker and have college courses dedicated to your accomplishments, you have won the right to be serieous and formal in public.

Something tells me that she revealed only what she wanted revealed and kept much to herself, including her relationship with her lover, Lorena Hickok.

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Eleanor Roosevelt wanted to be loved. It's that simple. Start there and work your way out.

FDR loved no one. No one. Everyone was expendable at some point. Eleanor was expendable, Lucy Mercer was expendable, LeHand was expendable - she's the one that said FDR was incapable of true friendship with anyone -, everyone was expendable. He adopted and cast aside people no matter what it did to them. James Roosevelt blames FDR, in part, for his divorce from Betsey Cushing. FDR adored Betsey and she, him. He didn't care how much this upset James, or Eleanor or LeHand.

So, everyone, eventually got emotionally starved by FDR and had to look elsewhere. ER had great friendships but it was when FDR became governor that she fell for her bodyguard - Earl Miller - and he for her. She wrote a letter to friends at the Dem convention of 1932 saying that the minute FDR was elected she was going to run off with her bodyguard. Her despondency that FDR did not select Miller to go to Washington with them - even though he got to keep LeHand - is what drove her to the affair with Hickock. The latter relationship didn't last that long in that ER wrote Hickock "you have a feeling for me which I do not return in kind, but it doesn't mean I don't love you." ER tried batting from the other side of the plate, but it wasn't really her game.

Eleanor did continue to rendezvous with Miller in NYC and Hyde Park up until he got married in 1941, after which, he was still a fixture in her NY apt. In January of 1939 and 1940, Eleanor, her secretary Tommy, got on a plane with their respective boyfriends and flew to Florida. No kidding.

Still waters run deep. But she was starved by FDR and Miller and Hickock are probably the only two people that ever made her feel loved. No mean feat. The more you expected of FDR, the more miserable he made you. The minute you expected something in return from him as Eleanor, Lehand, etc. did, the sooner he dropped you. Look at the sulking and pouting Churchill did over Roosevelt. He and Eleanor could have had a long talk about that.

Eleanor actually enjoyed a good party and was even seen in a conga line. Esquire's 20th Century Review Women We Love issue listed ER under the category of "classy dames who secretly partied."

It's really unfortunate that the Roosevelts never got the chance to have a week without groupies and handlers to get reaquainted. They did seem oddly attached to one another and kept reaching out to the other, and missing. Sad.

The irony is, of course, the very traits that made him a lousy husband, father, etc. were the very traits that made him a good president.

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Some years ago my husband and I toured the Roosevelt Hyde Park estate on the Hudson River in New York. The Roosevelt Presidential Library is also located on the estate, and there's a section of the library devoted to Eleanor.

One of the things that I remember vividly of that tour was seeing Eleanor's wallet and it's contents that was among her personal effects at the hospital on the day she died. Her wallet was well worn and contained a Red Cross membership card, a driver's license, and just a few dollars in change. That conveyed the message that she was a very down-to-earth, humble person.

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Publicly, Eleanor has to be considered one of the, if not the best first ladies ever.

Privately....well, let's keep that private.

- The Truth is Out There, and I found it in Christ!

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I must agree with the OP that Eleanor Roosevelt had always seemed to be a very serious, formal, no-nonsense kind of woman who didn't project a lot of personal warmth, but Cynthia Nixon's portrayal brought a lot of warmth to her IMO.

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A lot of people from their class were not exactly perceived as "warm." But I think that his having polio made them BOTH more open, compassionate and warm people. However I've read on more than one occasion that when Churchill - one of FDR's closest friends and obviously allies, was "picked on" by FDR (he would call him fat or something, in a teasing way), Churchill would be in tears. That wasn't very "warm" of FDR, IMO!!

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British writer, Vera Brittan, who wrote "Testament of Youth" - an anti-war memoir of WWI - said that she'd met most the crowned heads of Europe, some a couple of times, and none were as regal as Eleanor Roosevelt was. She was pretty intimidated, until Eleanor and she began to talk and she was impressed by the warmth ER projected.

You were expected to look serious at serious events. Also in most formal photographs.

ps. Eleanor and son, James, laughed all the way through Calvin Coolidge's funeral and FDR swore NEVER to send them to the same event again.

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Eleanor had to put on her game face at public events, but was quite nice - in fact, CHARMING, in person. She consistently was able to walk into a hostile room and win folks over.

Most say she also was much better looking in real life.

She - and FDR - were of a generation that did not foist their personal problems onto the wrong people at the wrong times, so one could be in their company and see two perky, happy people, no matter what.

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