Black Remake


I doubt I'm the only one who's noticed this, but this is nothing more than a crappy, poorly written, modern, black version of "Mr. Blandings Builds his Dream House" which is an excellent movie. And it's funny without having to resort to gimmicks and low-brow jokes. I suggest everyone watch that instead. It's old, but it's good.

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Plus, it has Cary Grant and Myrna Loy; two excellent actors.

Remakes suck, no matter who does them.


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i think it's interesting how the title of this post is called 'black remake'. it just makes me wonder, if someone like adam sandler and cameron diaz were redoing the movie, would you have put 'white remake'? just a question.

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The fact is, the "black remake" has become a genre of sorts. "The Honeymooners" is a good example, but the concept has been around for years. Remember "The New Odd Couple"? It was, in essence, "The Black Odd Couple."

If Cameron Diaz and Adam Sandler made a remake of, say "Foxy Brown"- then yes, people would call it a "white remake".

The context and target audience makes a difference. If Don Cheadle made a serious remake of "Rear Window", playing the Jimmy Stewart part, no one would call it a "black remake".

If Cedric The Entertainer makes it, turns it into a 'comedy', and changes the name to "Oh, Snap!"...then it might be a "black remake"

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Excellent post, treemarc.

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It's not a genre...it's just a way that Caucasians, like yourself, classify films that star Black actors so you can either "Bash them" or "Pass" on going to see them. Period. If you take an example like, the "Honeymooners", there is no need to interject the word "Black". Not unless you want all the nitwits to come out and start bashing it and more than 90% of the bashers never see it anyay. Bigger than that, the trailer will let you know who is doing what. Which is why when most of you knuckle heads see a trailer for a film that had "originally" casted a WHITE cast, you start ranking on the movie before even seeing what the remake is about..or more importantly, how well it's done. You're judging color...not content. Stop sugar coating and get on with it.

If Cameron Diaz and Adam Sandler did a remake of "Foxy Brown", it would deal with the storyline and characters. The issue of color is all about personal crap. I would go to see the movie cause I am into Adam and have watched a lot of Cameron's films. Same with Rear Window. Jimmy's character and the other characters in the story could be played by anyone of ANY color. They would just have to have the same issues the character does in the story...which is something so many lack in these IMDB forums. Character!

You guys kill me with all the crap you come up with to disrespect films with African Americans in them. Starring or otherwise. Then you look at what some of these weekend reviewers give a thumbs up to and it's laughable. Why not just stop hating folks...go and watch films you feel comfortable with (Starring a bunch of WHITE faces) and stop your crying about films starring and co starring Black talent. Your time could be better spent there. We are here to stay!

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I hate to be the one to break this controversial news, but The 'black remake' is absolutely a very real subgenre. See, the problem here is that you're fishing way too much for 'racial intolerance, general ignorance, and the like' on behalf of those who have used the term 'black remake' within this thread, where none exists to begin with. It's not as is the label is being used in a spiteful or otherwise malevolent suggestive manner. The term fits, as in the prior example of The Honeymooners remake, because the producers/writers actively re-worked the story's context, setting, and ethnicity of the main characters in order to target the film primarily at a specific demographic--in this case, young adults within the afro-american community...It's not a very difficult concept to understand. That is, if you're open-minded, willing to recognize things that make perfect sense, and are not on a biased crusade to accuse others of hateful racism, of course. The majority of movies made are aimed at specific demographics, so in order to simply denote--and nothing more--a film which is a re-working of an older film originally marketed mainly to young adult/middle-aged caucasians, that has now been quite obviously targeted at, say, young adult afro-americans...exactly what is so woefully wrong about the term 'black remake'? Especially when it has carries no malevolent intent? Yes, I get it...maybe you're one of those uber-cliched "all hollywood films are compleeeeetely equal in terms of intended audience, and if you so much as even suggest a certain flick has been aimed primarily at an audience of certain ethnicity, then you are an ignorant, dirty racist" people? I suppose you feel the Barbershop films were aimed at alllllll demographics equally. Sure, anyone is welcome to go see them, but in terms of market positioning...let's get real. Be realistic and use common sense. By the way, I truly enjoy the irony within the post above which clearly hints at racism/bias on caucasians' behalf.

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You're not breaking anything m8. I have worked in the film industry since I was a kid and will tell you...that this so-called "subgenre" that you speak of only exits to those who feel they need to watch a film starring a predominantly "White" cast. There is no hate in what I posted. I deal with producers...have shopped projects to producers and lend technical support for a living. I have been able to sit in on private screenings and get to hear what is said. I hear this stuff all the time and to them it's "biz as usual". The term doesn't fit. Why? Because if you are trying to get a wide audience to come out and watch a film...you label it as "A black film" and the feeling is that the film is for "Blacks" only. That stigma is dying and the proof is...not very many films are making to the big screen. A company is taking a BIG chance on hoping they are targeting am African Americans mostly (which by the way have a tendency to NOT frequent a lot of movies...they rent more DVD'S). What you miss is they are not "targeting" African Americans with an Ice Cube film. They are targeting people who listen to his music and watch his films. Who are those people? If you did your homework...you would find that audience VERY mixed! At one time his followers were all African American...but now his audience has broadened. Tyler Perry's last sucessful outing more than proved that.

Get a clue. We watch a majority of films starring mostly "White" casts and don't label them anything. Why is it necessary to do such if a film has a majority "Black" cast? The end result doesn't always mean the film is made for "Just" African American viewers. Where as in a film starring a Caucasian lead/or ,majority cast...none of these things are necessary. "Training Day", starred Denzel Washington...he is a colored male...has been all his life. Who is being targeted when they pull outn all the stops to promote one of his films? People like YOU live and hide behind twisted stats.

Don't get me wrong...you join the countless others who use cute words to try and speak up for what happens in the forums "ALL TOO MUCH". The reasoning is really poor. I remember reading through the posts MONTHS before "Diary of a mad Black Woman" came out and the bashers were out in FULL force. NONE of them had even seen the movie...NONE had a clue...they bashed it! Period! They also made it clear that "It would do poor box office numbers". It was a big hit.

What I posted about has more to do with a cutural issues than film marketing. I think you know this or maybe you just don't get it.

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" First of all, firefx, I'm sorry for coming off so harsh in my first response. My earlier tone was somewhat heated because from the phrasing of your post, it had seemed to me you had a clear vendetta with intent to crucify anyone who had used the the terminology 'black remake' at all as inherently doing so in an ill-conceived, derogatory, ignorant fashion."
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Why are you pandering to this racist? Let me guess. You're white, and the minute anyone black starts screaming racism, however unjustified, you just start quaking in your booties, and after clearing out that big lump in your throat you go straight for apology mode. Does that about suss you up?

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jesus *beep* dude do you really have that much time on your hands to write that entire *beep* essay? jesus h. christ..

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"You're not breaking anything m8. I have worked in the film industry since I was a kid and will tell you...that this so-called "subgenre" that you speak of only exits to those who feel they need to watch a film starring a predominantly "White" cast."
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Your credentials make no difference. You're quite clearly a black remake of a white racist who was looking for even the smallest opportunity to spew your racist generalizations about white people.

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I dont think racism has as much to do with white people labeling entertainment "black" as you do firex9. Magizines such as Ebony, King, and T.V. stations like BET..( used for the popularity of all 3 ) and Paul Mooney's latest book. " Know Your History - Jesus Is Black and So Was Cleopatra. " Are not hiding what they ( the examples I have given ) consider to be of the black community. So trying to align themselves with these sources, most white people feel like they know a culture they actually no nothing about.

As for calling me a racist, dont let my wife find out, she'll find you and smack the *beep* out ya. She was born in Liberia. I also lived there for 2 years.

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when i posted this, i promise i did not mean anything by what i put as the subject line. and no, i don't judge by skin color, i judge by content. by the way, i have heard many refer to this sort of movie as a "black comedy," so it is in fact, a legit sub-genre (if you ask average people not involved in the film industry). I apologize to anyone i have offended; i did not mean it in that way. when i went back to look at old posts, i couldn't for the life of me figure out why i started this thread with "black remake" as the subject. what i should've put is something along the lines of "mr. blandings remake" or just "remake." again, i apologize.
by the way, Cary Grant is an excellent comedic actor. this is nothing against Ice Cube. I have never seen/heard any of his work and thus cannot judge him. i have, however, seen Adam Sandler's work, so to whomever mentioned him, if this remake had involved him, i would not have titled this "white remake." i would've titled it "low-brow remake" because while he is a fine dramatic actor, most of his jokes are about sex and bodily functions. though i must say, he was excellent in Spanglish.

back to the topic at hand; i did not mean anything by saying "black remake." there are many movies with predominantly white casts which i refuse to see (matrix sequels and anything with Nicolas Cage or Keanu Reaves). i would much rather watch "Are We There Yet?" or "Are We Done Yet?" than watch "Ghost Rider" or "The Lakehouse."



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I HAVE READ AT LOT OF EMBARRASSING COMMENTS ON THIS SUBJECT, BUT rlhoze HAS ARTICULATED THE CORE OF THE CONTROVERSY BEST. MOVIES ARE "USUALLY" AIMED AT A SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHIC, THAT BEING SAID, THERE IS NO MALACE IN LABELING. EMULATING SUCCESSFUL MOVIES CAN BE PROFITABLE.

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the point of the matter is that ice cube is nothing but a stupid *beep* and all he does are stupid *beep* movies.
If a Caucasian goes around insulting blacks its considered racist but if a black does the same thing(ie insult white or people of any other color)its considered all right cuz he`s black.
ANd by the way why the *beep* would any one want to remake foxy brown that movie sucked assss.

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I love it when militant African-Americans peruse message boards, such as this one, and twist a simple, innocent comment or observation into some racially charged comment. You people just love to complain, bitch & moan, and if there isn't anything to whine about then you'll create something. People like you are the real racists and the reason there will never be true harmony between our ethnicities.

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Don't forget Guess Who; Ashton Kutcher's no Sydney Poitier.

I think it's a valid name for a subgenre, like "Nippon-Shakespeare" for what Akira Kurosawa did.

That's not to say there has to be a dumbing down: "Sanford & Son" was a black remake of "Steptoe & Son." I think the problem is Hollywood in general using this kind of cultural translation solely as a marketing gimmick or repackaging for profit.

It can be done right.

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I think it's a valid name for a subgenre, like "Sino-Shakespeare" for what Akira Kurosawa did.
"Sino-" means Chinese, so it's definitly not a valid name for what Akira Kurosawa did.


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My mistake, I'm sorry. But, you get the gist of what I'm saying, right?

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There's no need to apologize; and yes, I do understand what you were trying to say, and I agree.


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Damn man, stroke-much?

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Its a black remake, just as would be say a sanford and son movie starting all white people would be a white remake, or make a movie called the johnstons who are moving on up to the west side. How about roots, but in sted of a movie about slavery we will substitute the blacks with jews and call it hebroots (yuk yuk).

Its called a subjounra(sp!). Its not racist is just is what it is. Anyone trying to see something else is a dimwit. People will like a movie if its good regardless of the race of the cast (roots, mississippi burning, a raison in the sun etc. just some examples of great movies people like regardless of race). But it seems to me that black remakes of old classics always suck arse and like wise remakes suck. Its not something new, in fact white people remake movies all the time, but you don't see white folks taking a movie with an all non-white cast and casting only white people in those roles. These films are aimed usually at the average idiot movie viewer who liked their brains assualted by mind-numbing crap. I dunno if they are trying to appeal to only a certain crowd like a horror movie would, but I would think they just want someone to see their polished turd.


Hollywood needs to stop ruining old movies by making crap remakes.

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altrgod,
you are right. That is a black remake. I dont know what the problem is with these black people. If you mention a word 'black', they are going to freak out and accuse you for being racist. What is wrong with saying black, that is their color, and why cant they live with that. If I see any movie where majority of characters are black, I will of course classify it as a black movie. So there you go - black , black, black!! (very ugly color btw, my personal opinion, does not mean that I am racist)

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Good call, cowgirl.

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did you see the opening credits? it said based on the story "Mr. Blandings Builds his Dream House"

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"When what one has to say is no better than silence, one should keep silent."
Caine, Kung Fu.


Elvis is DEAD

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Another dumb black movie at its best.

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