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I bet wrestlers in the back are shaking in their boots preparing their resumes for the WWE. I feel bad for those guys but that's what happens when you believe in a an inferior product that has done everything wrong from the start.

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Yeah, but at the same time it was probably a decent paycheck (when it was delivered) and the chance to be exposed to a national audience on a weekly basis, so for those who couldn't get into WWE the pros probably outweighed the cons.

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Yeah well the paychecks might have been good for some of the talent. I know that Sting got a really good paycheck when he was there. So much wasted money.

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Was it wasted money?

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Yes because Sting didn't do anything for the business. He came in soaked in the Sting chants and left TNA for a company that he stated he would never work for. He did it to fill his ego.

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I don't think it's Sting's fault per se. He negotiated a deal and they gave him what they felt he was worth. It was their job to use him in a way that would give them a return on their investment. If it were simply Sting, you could make that argument but they paid a lot of older veterans some pretty decent money and never bothered to utilize them to help the product as a whole.

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Yeah but Bill Goldberg would have been a better choice, he would have put TNA on the map.

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Bumping your deadass threads again,lameduck? See,I was right about you. All you care about is having your threads on top.

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Good to see duck confirmed he still has an obsession w Goldberg. Delusional obsession.

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Like you guys were obsessed with Sting and how he was going to help TNA. And I am the delusional one?


BTW most of the threads on this board are dead. 

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No kidding, buddy. This board been dead even when you were around then. You are just clueless.


Sting nor Goldberg would help TNA. Whats your point? You gonna tell us you worked for TNA again so we can get a good laugh.



You got some serious problems, one of them is lying.


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Sting failed yes but what makes you think Goldberg would have failed?


This board had more posters a while back but too many people here using this board as their own personal playground. There are no real discussions because it is either you agree with the marks or you will be an outcast.

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Sting failed yes but what makes you think Goldberg would have failed?


Because Sting failed, Hogan Failed, Nash Failed, Jarrett failed.....everyone in TNA failed. So precious little Goldberg would not have saved TNA. You are a clown if you think that a guy who has been out of wrestling since 2003 would show up in TNA and bring ratings...he still didn't even save Raw these last 2 weeks.



This board had more posters a while back but too many people here using this board as their own personal playground. There are no real discussions because it is either you agree with the marks or you will be an outcast.


I have no idea what this even means. You seem to live in a fantasy world. This board been dead since 2013 at least. Few of the same posters do post sporadically like ToP, Harlem, etc. TNA is dead, most of them moved on to TNA boards where they actually post.

There were never any real discussions back then because if people like you disagreed with others, turned into a war. Mainly you calling people "Junox clones" and whining about Goldberg. Yeah sorry, not going to use the term "mark", because not trying to sound cool like you.


I know you are not going to respond to this, too many words for you to comprehend.

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Sting failed yes but what makes you think Goldberg would have failed?

Goldberg would have failed for the same reasons the other big names did. If barely anyone cared that Sting or the biggest star in the history of the business,Hogan,were there,then how could you possibly think that Goldberg would be the one to draw a massive crowd to the product?


This board had more posters a while back but too many people here using this board as their own personal playground.


There were many posters here,yes. Some really great ones too. But you wouldn't know who they were because you refused to interact with any of them. You were only here to serve yourself and post on your own threads which you would dedicate to yourself. The only reason this board is dead now is because TNa is basically dead itself. There really isn't many people wanting to discuss it anymore. And you have never been any help in spiking up the discussions here.

And who has been using this as their own playground,dear old ducky? Not one poster here has ever tried to take this board over. Except YOU! The only reason you have come to this board is to post threads deicated to your own self and act like you kniow every damn thing about wrestling or whatever other topic you can think of. Your "AtD" threads were your attempt to create a discussion board within a board. You never interacted on other threads in the past. You only bumped up your threads and then disappeared.

There are no real discussions because it is either you agree with the marks or you will be an outcast


More proof that you don't really read any of the posts here,birdbrain. There have been dozens of good and even informative discussions here.And there still are a few that come up depending on the topic. But again,you wouldn't know that because you only care about the state of your own s#!+! You don't read any of the ones that would make you actually think and have to give an honest answer to. If you respond to any of the posts,it's always with an answer that a 10 year would give.

And the part about having to agree with the "marks",again proves how damned stupid you are. That is bull**** and you know it! Everyone here wants to discuss wrestling and we can't do that without opposing views. Stop lying about how you were laughed at or even run off the board for not agreeing with anyone. That's a bald faced lie. Much like your parents lying to you every time they say how much they love you and how proud they are of you. They probably partied their asses off the day you moved out. People mock you,or even ignore you,simply because you are a complete moron and offer nothing to this board. Never did,never will. Just like everything else you do in life. you are nothing but a worthless idiot.


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Sting failed


Let's get this right: Sting never failed. He was always entertaining. Maybe you mean that having him there failed to draw Superbowl ratings and in venue crowds. That I could agree with. Sting had legions of fans in WCW, but it shut down and he went to- what was it called- WWA?- which few people if any saw on TV. Then he went to TNA, which many of those fans may not have known about- or if they did hear about it, they decided that it was probably some other non- or little televised indy, so they thought they couldn't see it either, and were concentrating on being frustrated that he still wasn't going to WWE.

There were many posters here,yes. Some really great ones too.


Aw, shucks!

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WWA?- which few people if any saw on TV.


WWA was strictly pay per views, champ. That's why nobody saw it.

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Sigh Triple S!! Another one I suppose lol. And you guys wonder why I make comments about all the cloned accounts on this board.

You guys disagree with my opinions without actual facts to back it up and it is not just your opinions that matter on this board. All I hear is blah blah bird brain this or duck that.

Goldberg was a big draw for WCW and was one of the biggest stars. So Sting fails and now Goldberg will too. How do you know that? Your just a bunch of Goldberg haters.

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Goldberg would not have pushed TNA over the top. Hogan is a bigger name than Goldberg and he couldn't pushed TNA over the top (partially because Hogan's business model is still making the show revolve around him). Goldberg could have been asset but he alone wasn't going to make WWE fear TNA by any means. Goldberg has a pretty big ego and I don't see himself laying down for the good of the business to make other stars. Goldberg worked in WCW because at that time, they had plenty of other stars that Goldberg could work with. In TNA, those stars still needed to be established.

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anblq pretty much summed it up.


You are a goofball who seems to be paranoid and think everyone is a clone account because they don't agree with you.


Hogan failed, Sting failed, Angle failed, anyone who is anyone failed. What makes your precious Goldberg so special? You should stop riding the guys jockstrap, he hasn't been in wrestling for years. He didn't want to go to TNA because it was a nightmare.


You use to come here praises and nutriding TNA. Now you try to show up here as if you are against it because its sinking. You also seemed to have some sociopathic tendencies when you made your own Ask Duck thread...


You are a lunatic.

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If you posters mean that the big stars didn't help TNA be successful, please phrase it more like that. Don't say so-and-so failed. Big stars (maybe except Hogan and Bischoff)didn't fail in what they did. Most of the big stars were great at what they did, but TNA was still running things. All failures are TNA's doing, not most of the big stars. Thanks.

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If you posters mean that the big stars didn't help TNA be successful, please phrase it more like that. Don't say so-and-so failed. Big stars (maybe except Hogan and Bischoff)didn't fail in what they did. Most of the big stars were great at what they did, but TNA was still running things. All failures are TNA's doing, not most of the big stars. Thanks.


They failed, TNA failed. Its obvious...You sure do like looking for an argument or a debate when nothing is there. If Sting, Hogan, Macho Man, Nash, Hall or whoever showed up in TNA and did not get ratings. Clear indication that not only the star failed, but TNA also failed since they are CONTRACTED to TNA. And yes, Big stars failed in what they did. Sting decided to do Joker Sting, it sucked. Sting had a horrible match with Hardy at Victory Road. Sting could have easily taken his ball and went home. He didn't because he was getting paid. Good for him to get paid, but TNA is about to disappear because these guys did not lift the product.




Not sure why you replied to me, but your little comment was nitpicking and pretty 'Trollirific'.


Thanks.

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You guys disagree with my opinions without actual facts to back it up and it is not just your opinions that matter on this board. All I hear is blah blah bird brain this or duck that.


Seriously,duck? We don't back up our posts? What exactly do you ever bring to the table,moron? NOTHING! All you do is insert random comments to make it appear that you are participating in a thread. You never ever actually say a damn thing to help elevate the discussions. NOTHING! Just go away and let the real posters continue discussing wrestling. No one cares about a dumbass duck.

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Let's get this right: Sting never failed. He was always entertaining.

Frankly, I would say that his impression of Heath Ledger's Joker was particularly grating and the low point of his entire career. It is rare that you see a legend of his caliber being given a gimmick that they just cannot get over and the reason for it was that it exposed his limited acting ability. In fact, that entire Joker-Sting storyline produced produced such great moments as Sting holding Eric Bischoff hostage with a bird (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzmBUUSDDKM). Then there was the yearlong storyline (that's right one whole year) where Sting tried to get control of TNA away from Hogan and back into the hands of Dixie Carter. Then a few months later, Sting began campaigning for Hulk Hogan to run TNA again. Then there was the incident in Victory Road 2012 where Sting knocked himself out by accidently hitting his head on a steel chair doing a Scorpion Death Drop. If anything it could be argued that Sting's presence was part of what prevented TNA from reaching the next level.

Maybe you mean that having him there failed to draw Superbowl ratings and in venue crowds. That I could agree with.

If you agree with that then why are you posting this? The amount of money Sting was paid versus the amount of interest he was able to draw to the company, he was a failure. In addition he was long past the point where he should have been the focal point of the company but continued to be there front and center ahead of guys like Samoa Joe. He was also out of shape to the point he had to wear the infamous t-shirt to hide his physique.

Sting had legions of fans in WCW, but it shut down and he went to- what was it called- WWA?- which few people if any saw on TV.

Largely because it was never on TV and only aired PPV's. I guess this is another instance where you get caught talking about something you know nothing about.

Then he went to TNA, which many of those fans may not have known about- or if they did hear about it, they decided that it was probably some other non- or little televised indy, so they thought they couldn't see it either, and were concentrating on being frustrated that he still wasn't going to WWE.

i don't understand why you insist on speaking for others. You know nothing about the particular situation and are speculating completely.

Aw, shucks!

Yes, and you were never one of those posters.

If you posters mean that the big stars didn't help TNA be successful, please phrase it more like that. Don't say so-and-so failed.

So you are asking others to dumb-down their posts for you because you are having trouble keeping up? Thank you for another contemporaneous example of the fact that you have problems understanding simple things.

Big stars (maybe except Hogan and Bischoff)didn't fail in what they did. Most of the big stars were great at what they did, but TNA was still running things. All failures are TNA's doing, not most of the big stars. Thanks.

TNA invested in those big stars because they thought they would get a return in their investment. Those big stars brought name value that translated into nothing but stagnant ratings and a main event consisting of guys that were past their prime. Although TNA management did shoulder blame, these talents did nothing but line their pockets at the company's expense and then tried to dictate to creative what they would or would not do. The most egregious example was Booker T whose entire tenure with the company made him look like Hogan in WCW circa 1999. Once again scadeetin, thank you for contributing nothing to a post except another example of your difficulty in understanding simple things. For an encore, why don't you give another example of you inability to express yourself effectively, use words properly, your utilization of poorly constructed analogies, and a display of your victim mentality. You know you want to, so post on scadeetin, post on!

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Frankly, I would say that his impression of Heath Ledger's Joker was particularly grating and the low point of his entire career. It is rare that you see a legend of his caliber being given a gimmick that they just cannot get over and the reason for it was that it exposed his limited acting ability. In fact, that entire Joker-Sting storyline produced produced such great moments as Sting holding Eric Bischoff hostage with a bird.


Realy? Grating? Low point of his entire career? I loved every bit of Joker Sting. The reason you may not is because you consider it an impression. I consider it his own take on it- and he might have even been paying homage. So just because someone's character is based on another, it doesn't make it an impression. Many humble perforners have said they could never do justice to their portrayl like the original performer and shy away from calling their portrayal an impression. I believe Sting would do that. He knows acting isn't his strong suit- and he knows that pro wrestling is for people whose strong suit is not acting, but can manage some. I realized that way back in the 1980's.

Then there was the yearlong storyline (that's right one whole year) where Sting tried to get control of TNA away from Hogan and back into the hands of Dixie Carter. Then a few months later, Sting began campaigning for Hulk Hogan to run TNA again. Then there was the incident in Victory Road 2012 where Sting knocked himself out by accidently hitting his head on a steel chair doing a Scorpion Death Drop. If anything it could be argued that Sting's presence was part of what prevented TNA from reaching the next level.


Sounds like you are blurring the lines between storyline and real life here. It was actually all storyline. I'm not sure you know whether you're on foot or horseback. This was the lowest point in Sting's career. Why mention the Victory Road incident (Just saw it on youtube. Wow, that was indeed real)? Like Mike Tenay said, he surely didn't know the chair was even there. Other big names have had similar unfortunate incidents, but that kind of thing doesn't take anything away from them and surely does not mean that they are bringing the company down. Sting's presence did not prevent TNA from reaching the next level, but how the writers/bookers used it is a different story.


Sting had legions of fans in WCW, but it shut down and he went to- what was it called- WWA?- which few people if any saw on TV.

Largely because it was never on TV and only aired PPV's. I guess this is another instance where you get caught talking about something you know nothing about.


Emerald reminded me of that (in a rather condescending way, I might add, but that's just how he tends to be). I just haven't thought enough about it in all the years since to remember that as well as others. As for your supposing of my "instances", I've never had such instances. I've pnly had what you have made out to be instances because the whole meaning in your life is to have someone to mess with.

Then he went to TNA, which many of those fans may not have known about- or if they did hear about it, they decided that it was probably some other non- or little televised indy, so they thought they couldn't see it either, and were concentrating on being frustrated that he still wasn't going to WWE.
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i don't understand why you insist on speaking for others. You know nothing about the particular situation and are speculating completely.


I'm not speaking for others- just giving my littl figurings based on what others have said all these years. I know from learning from others who know what they are talking about who have even provided long-forgotten links to their sources. Even if I was just speculating, there is nothing wrong with speculation. Plato, Socrates, Sigmund Freud- they all speculated.

Yes, and you were never one of those posters.


Says you. I wouldn't ask the opinion of someone who needs as half as much professoinal help as you do.

So you are asking others to dumb-down their posts for you because you are having trouble keeping up?


Looks like you're the one who has trouble keeping up. Really. In your attempts to prod me, you can't see how vilainous but very stupid you look. I was only asking for people to be more aware of their phrasing so they can appear as intelligent as they actually are and show that they don't mean what it looks like they said. What if Sting or his family members perused this board and saw "Sting failed" several times? How do you suppose that would make them feel?

Thank you for another contemporaneous example of the fact that you have problems understanding simple things.


You never got a first one, but thank you for continuing to show your true colors.

TNA invested in those big stars because they thought they would get a return in their investment.


Blame that on the lack of awareness of TNA or of what network they were on and/or the availability of the network, the way they ran things that got them bad reviews and turned people off, not the big stars.

Those big stars brought name value that translated into nothing but stagnant ratings


My above response says why.

and a main event consisting of guys that were past their prime.


Like I said, TNA's fault. Not the stars. Those matches could have merely been high attraction matches rather than main attraction matches.

Although TNA management did shoulder blame, these talents did nothing but line their pockets at the company's expense and then tried to dictate to creative what they would or would not do. The most egregious example was Booker T whose entire tenure with the company made him look like Hogan in WCW circa 1999.


You believe dirt sheet rumors? Tsk, tsk. Maybe that was Hogan and Bischoff, but probably no one else. I enjoyed Booker in TNA and I don't think he was at all iike WCW Hogan circa 1999 or any time. Booker was a guy that had his pushes in his pre-TNA history but he had to deal with race-related setbacks and backstage politics too. There was no reason to believe that he would have come into TNA feeling like a prima donna and believing he was as big as Hulk Hogan and could make demands like him.

Once again scadeetin, thank you for contributing nothing to a post


How does one contribute to a post besides their own when they can only edit their own?

except another example of your difficulty in understanding simple things.


Stevie Wonder could see that I never gave you one.

For an encore, why don't you give another example of you inability to express yourself effectively, use words properly, your utilization of poorly constructed analogies, and a display of your victim mentality. You know you want to, so post on scadeetin, post on!


Why don't you sit up and beg like a good dog? You know you want to. I'm offering Scooby Snacks. Then you can satisfy yourself with your chew toys while we actual human beings chat.

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Realy? Grating? Low point of his entire career? I loved every bit of Joker Sting.



Yet, TNA ran with joker sting for 4 months and pulled the plug because it was horrible TV and nobody wanted to see that. Glad you enjoyed it though. If people really liked it, he would be in TNA now shilling out that knock off gimmick.


I'm not speaking for others- just giving my littl figurings based on what others have said all these years. I know from learning from others who know what they are talking about who have even provided long-forgotten links to their sources.



You frequently do this and lack self awareness to understand just how you do these things. Interesting...


You believe dirt sheet rumors? Tsk, tsk. Maybe that was Hogan and Bischoff, but probably no one else. I enjoyed Booker in TNA and I don't think he was at all iike WCW Hogan circa 1999 or any time. Booker was a guy that had his pushes in his pre-TNA history but he had to deal with race-related setbacks and backstage politics too. There was no reason to believe that he would have come into TNA feeling like a prima donna and believing he was as big as Hulk Hogan and could make demands like him.



All you have to do is watch TNA Impact shows and notice who has power and who is where. YOu enjoyed everything in TNA apparently. Nice argument to have there...

Race related setbacks? Contradict yourself with that first question you asked Harlem. Apparently, you enjoy reading and believing 'dirt sheets' as you call them. You surely do not understand how things work...Hogan, Bischoff, Sting, Hardy, Van Dam, Booker, Nash, Hall and Angle all took contracts for the betterment of TNA. Well is TNA better because of their signings today? No. So did they fail? Yes. Not hard to see that. All those guys failed, TNA failed. They are part of TNA. They lined their pockets up, going through the motions and putting on a bad TV product. Proof? Where are all those guys today? yep...

TNA failed as a whole, those guys are part of TNA...failures.

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Yet, TNA ran with joker sting for 4 months and pulled the plug because it was horrible TV and nobody wanted to see that.


Your opinion and you are speaking for everybody. Nice going. I don't think it ended abruptly, to the best of my memory. How would they explain the fact that he was like that one minute, then normal the next?

Glad you enjoyed it though. If people really liked it, he would be in TNA now shilling out that knock off gimmick.


No, he wouldn't. The gimmick would have and did run its course a long time ago. He also wanted to go to WWE before wrapping up his career, which he was looking to do soon. And he did go to WWE and wrap it up. Didn't you get the memo that he retired in WWE?

I don't frequently do this. What I have done is communicate like many others do so they can understand. You just spoke for everybody when I pointed it out above. They don't necessarily mean to speak for everybody when they write like they are. They mean "the vast majority".

All you have to do is watch TNA Impact shows and notice who has power and who is where.


So whichever veteran is getting a push, it means the veteran has all kinds of power, so people don't like it? In every single case? Is WWE keeping Chris Jericho in the Universal Champion's storyline because he has all kinds of power? Is AJ Styles the WWE champion because he has all kinds of power? Ridiculous. I have yet to read any complaints about either guy and I do read posts. TNA did favors for veterans and for the fans of the veterans.

YOu enjoyed everything in TNA apparently. Nice argument to have there...


I haven't enjoyed everything. So my argument is not that I did.

Race related setbacks? Contradict yourself with that first question you asked Harlem.


My first question was "Really?" Then it was "Grating?" I don't see any contradiction. Are you telling me to contradict myself with "Really?"

Apparently, you enjoy reading and believing 'dirt sheets' as you call them.


As most people call them- and I only read PPV results on them most of the time.

You surely do not understand how things work...Hogan, Bischoff, Sting, Hardy, Van Dam, Booker, Nash, Hall and Angle all took contracts for the betterment of TNA. Well is TNA better because of their signings today? No. So did they fail? Yes. Not hard to see that. All those guys failed, TNA failed. They are part of TNA.


They did not fail (exept Hogan/Bischoff). They signed up to continue their careers and treat their fans. As for as the betterment of TNA, we would need to ask them that individually. They are veterans and legends who have seen for themselves how the business works. They already knew for themselves that big names don't do it if the writing, booking and finances aren't good. That all lies with TNA. It's mostly, if not totally TNA's fault that TNA failed.

They lined their pockets up,


That sounds like they were only in it for the money. What a horrible thing to say. Untrue as well.

going through the motions


That sounds like they weren't putting anything into it, like going along like zombies. It's also a horrible and untrue thing to say.

and putting on a bad TV product.


TNA put on the TV product.

Proof? Where are all those guys today? yep...


That's downright stupid to say. They are all in their 50's or older. Where should they be? They gave all or most all they could. Angle was risking permanent injury and paralysis as it was. Hogan had a bunch of back and hip surgeries. No, it's time that they just mostly stuck to wrestling conventions, signing autographs and taking photos.

TNA failed as a whole, those guys are part of TNA...failures.


And you are a total failure at saying why those guys are total failures. Anyone would be, because they weren't. You can't spray perfume on a turd to make it smell any better, right?

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Your opinion and you are speaking for everybody. Nice going. I don't think it ended abruptly, to the best of my memory. How would they explain the fact that he was like that one minute, then normal the next?


Opinion? Is he with TNA now? How long did Joker Sting last? IF it was such a success, why did they kill it? Joker sting was not good, sorry. That's just facts here. I guess they didn't abandon such a "popular" gimmick, eh?


So whichever veteran is getting a push, it means the veteran has all kinds of power, so people don't like it? In every single case? Is WWE keeping Chris Jericho in the Universal Champion's storyline because he has all kinds of power? Is AJ Styles the WWE champion because he has all kinds of power? Ridiculous. I have yet to read any complaints about either guy and I do read posts. TNA did favors for veterans and for the fans of the veterans.



Sorry bud, WWE is ran by delusional..but rather rational people who do things that are business decisions. NXT is thriving, WWE main product is struggling, but still making money, wonder how? That's another story. But TNA had its inmates running the asylum because a woman who has no idea how to run a business is running TNA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2cQ7vF7DFM

Might wanna listen to this conversation which tells you about who was running TNA and why people were given pushes. AJ Styles pretty much says that she believed who was popular on TV in the past got pushed to the stars. AJ was never center piece. Sting, Booker, Nash, Angle and so on were the stars. Talking about the way WWE is ran in a structured environment versus the landscape and cesspool that's TNA...which your owner lies to a investor and tricks him for money. Then has the entire roster wanting to turn on her? That's apples and oranges...next.

That sounds like they were only in it for the money. What a horrible thing to say. Untrue as well.


Nash pretty much admitted he was there for money and business. Why is it hard to understand?

TNA put on the TV product.


Sure thing bud, TNA put on a bad TV product. Ratings went down, TNA went from 1.2 mil viewers to 300k. Not bad at all huh?
That's downright stupid to say. They are all in their 50's or older. Where should they be? They gave all or most all they could. Angle was risking permanent injury and paralysis as it was. Hogan had a bunch of back and hip surgeries. No, it's time that they just mostly stuck to wrestling conventions, signing autographs and taking photos.


Stupid? Sting was just wrestling last year, left TNA because its a sinking ship. Nash left TNA knowing it was bad. Booker left to get money in WWE, Angle left because sinking ship. Even Jarrett knew when to sell and leave. Pretty stupid thing to say alright, for you. Angle is 50, huh? Aj Styles is 50, right? LOL...Hogan still could have been off camera, who said anything about wrestling or performing?

And you are a total failure at saying why those guys are total failures. Anyone would be, because they weren't. You can't spray perfume on a turd to make it smell any better, right?


Grow up dude, TNA failed...those stars failed. So basically you just admitted that TNA is crap....why are you even trying to debate?  TNA was crap and they were part of the crap.

Stop trolling and just admit you agree that TNA was crap and those guys did nothing to help it. Pretty much what you just said in your last message there.

So what are you exactly attempting to defend? Poor nitpicking that leads to you chasing your own tail. Why are you even on here attempting to argue again?

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My first question was "Really?" Then it was "Grating?" I don't see any contradiction. Are you telling me to contradict myself with "Really?"



Your first question in that last paragraph, genius. How can you not get that? "Do you really believe the dirtsheets?" you clearly do believe them to spout off some dirtsheet rumors about Booker and being held back.




As most people call them- and I only read PPV results on them most of the time.


Contradicting yourself again...most people call them. Similar to me using "Vast majority"...as if its hearsay. You got on me about using Vast majority line. Most of the time, eh? That would imply you read other "dirtsheet" items...again you apparently believe these dirtsheets, so why question Harlem on that?

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Opinion?


Yep.

Is he with TNA now?


Of course not. HE RETIRED. He had a near-future retirement in mind when he did Joker Sting. He had it in mind in all his TNA run after that. If he and Vince had not reached a deal, he would have retired out of TNA. But he went to WWE and retired there.

How long did Joker Sting last?


It started no earlier than the week of June 12, 2011. It could be argued that it went on as long as he wore the face paint for it, which seems to have been at least 4-5 months later. That's a good run time for a gimmick But I don't think he did the Joker acting for that long. But if it was such a bad gimmick in the company's opinion, you'd think they'd want to wipe out all traces of it.

IF it was such a success, why did they kill it?


Did I say it was a huge success? No. I only said it was good. But they most likely ended it (not killed it) because it ran its course and the creative well ran dry for it.

Joker sting was not good, sorry. That's just facts here.


No, I think it's your manufactured, "Hey look, guys, I agree with you, so I'm one of the good posters too, and you should take me seriously!" opinion.

I guess they didn't abandon such a "popular" gimmick, eh?


I'd bet if you did a poll that just Sting's big fans would take, they would show plenty of love for it. I think it was genius to have one guy who is famous for his various styles of face paint play another guy who is famous for a painted-looking face. I don't know who else could have done it better, and it was a gimmick that just had to be done by someone. It's that great an idea. The only trouble is that it would take a lot of good acting, and no wrestler can act that well. But that doesn't mean that the gimmick should not have been done and that it could not have been enjoyed.

Might wanna listen to this conversation which tells you about who was running TNA and why people were given pushes. AJ Styles pretty much says that she believed who was popular on TV in the past got pushed to the stars. AJ was never center piece. Sting, Booker, Nash, Angle and so on were the stars.


AJ had some time. Not a whole lot, but he had some. Who was Ric Fiair coming out with, who acted and dressed like classic Four Horsemen Flair? That's right- AJ. And a stable was built around him then as well. Who was that had the great programs with Samoa Joe? AJ. Who was in the most pushed at time but crappy program with the woman saying that he got her pregnant? AJ! Who had that high profile program with Kazarian and Chris Daniels? AJ!

But yeah, a lot of older guys came in and had their high profile programs too. Many complaining fans wanted them to build their home grown stars up to be mega superstars before bringing in the older guys. Probably also wait until they could compete with WWE before bringing in the older guys. But TNA never could compete with WWE, so the impatient fans just blamed it on the presence of the older guys, because the common current millennium human response to anything not liked is to blame someone without putting a lot of thought behind it so the blame goes to the right place. I remember well when that wasn't the case. At least not so much. The blame for any legitimate gripes about the older guys goes to Dixie, her creative staff and others behind the scenes. But we need to realize what the legitimate ones are, as well as who to legitimately direct them to. At the end of the day, it all needs to be laid on Dixie's doorstep.

Getting name value older talent doesn't just mean having them come in, say hi, then leave. Fans kept chanting for Sting to stay, and he had enough in the tank to stay for a while. Kurt Angle wanted a better end to his career than he got in WWE, had a lot left in the tank and enthralled fans each time he set foot in the ring, but at the same time, there were concerns about his neck, so nobody wanted him to stay if he was going to leave. Guys like Flair, Nash and Foley were nice treats. Each didn't wrestle many matches in TNA at all when it comes down to it. I still want to go back and see the Flair vs Foley hardcore match again. That was great!

Nash pretty much admitted he was there for money and business. Why is it hard to understand?


Well, that's Nash then. He doesn't speak for all of them.

Sure thing bud, TNA put on a bad TV product. Ratings went down, TNA went from 1.2 mil viewers to 300k. Not bad at all huh?


I didn't say it wasn't. That's what happens when you can't stay on a network, then another one, and more and more people don't have or can't find the networks. It's also what happens when you have people "help" to run it like Hogan and Bischoff and people writing for it like Vince Russo.

Stupid?


You got it.

Sting was just wrestling last year,


...and he retired, like he had been considering for years!


left TNA because its a sinking ship.


Did he ever say that? Seems to me like he left because he wanted to wrap up his career in WWE.

Nash left TNA knowing it was bad.


That doesn't say why he left. It only says what he knew. Here is what wikipedia says with references is his article:

On October 13, 2010, Nash's contract with TNA expired and he announced his retirement from professional wrestling. His last TNA appearance was a taped broadcast on October 14, 2010, when Nash and Sting both announced they were walking away from TNA rather than being a part of Hogan and Bischoff's regime. In January 2011 Nash signed a new contract with TNA, but was granted a release before reappearing on television, after being contacted by WWE


Then he did an indy appearance, a Japan wrestling appearance and jumped to WWE, where he concluded his career like Sting.

Booker left to get money in WWE,


Maybe, but your point was they all left because TNA was bad or because it was a sinking ship.

Angle left because sinking ship.


Did he say why he left? He was wrapping up his career. I think he still is, in the indies.

Even Jarrett knew when to sell and leave.


Did he? He could have done it all the sooner, when he Karen initially left together.

Pretty stupid thing to say alright, for you.


You asking "where are they now?" was stupid, as if they should still be in TNA if they succeeded so well." People get too old, retire, move on to other related or non related things, etc.

Angle is 50, huh?


Pretty close.

Aj Styles is 50, right?


No, and I wasn't thinking of him when I said they're all 50 or older.

LOL...Hogan still could have been off camera, who said anything about wrestling or performing?


Doing what then? Picking his nose? What would he have ever done off camera after the Hogan-Bischoff TNA deal?

Grow up dude,


Oh, I didn't know having a different opinion from you was childish. Then I guess I'm glad I'm childish.

TNA failed...


Yeah.

those stars failed.


No. They entertained their fans and gave them an extra treat to see them more.

So basically you just admitted that TNA is crap....why are you even trying to debate?


I was using an illustration that I was sure you would understand so I could drive my point home. So much for that. You have a one track mind- your track.

Stop trolling


Oh, I didn't know that having a different opinion from you was trolling. Then I guess I'm glad to be a troll.

and just admit you agree that TNA was crap and those guys did nothing to help it. Pretty much what you just said in your last message there.


It didn't set the world on fire. The guys gave us a nice treat with their work. Like I said, they were the perfume.

So what are you exactly attempting to defend?


Getting forgetful, are you? My defense is against the notion that the veterans/legends failed.

Poor nitpicking that leads to you chasing your own tail. Why are you even on here attempting to argue again?


Oh, I didn't know that having a different opinion from you was poor nitpicking. Then I guess I'm glad to be a poor nitpicker.

But yes, why AM I even on here posting anything on this board If I'm only ever going to be jumped by Ernie and Bert here?

Your first question in that last paragraph, genius. How can you not get that? "


How in the world should I have? Say what you mean? There was more than one question that qualified as one kind of first question.

"Do you really believe the dirtsheets?"


I wasn't even talking to you when I said that. Why should you make a nig deal out of it?

you clearly do believe them to spout off some dirtsheet rumors about Booker and being held back.


Wrong. I gathered mu own facts by observing the obvious. For example, remember when he feuded with HHH? Booker lost and was buried after that.

Contradicting yourself again...most people call them.


You just have to talk in ways that most people talk so you know they understand you. DUH!!!

Similar to me using "Vast majority"...as if its hearsay.


You need to learn the difference between hearsay and colloquialisms.

You got on me about using Vast majority line.


And rightly so. SO rightly so.

Most of the time, eh? That would imply you read other "dirtsheet" items...


PPV results- sometimes results of shows I missed. So what?

again you apparently believe these dirtsheets, so why question Harlem on that?


Because I don't believe them (aside from those results) but he was talking like he does.


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Of course not. HE RETIRED. He had a near-future retirement in mind when he did Joker Sting. He had it in mind in all his TNA run after that. If he and Vince had not reached a deal, he would have retired out of TNA. But he went to WWE and retired there.


Courtesy of Dirtsheets, huh?

It started no earlier than the week of June 12, 2011. It could be argued that it went on as long as he wore the face paint for it, which seems to have been at least 4-5 months later. That's a good run time for a gimmick But I don't think he did the Joker acting for that long. But if it was such a bad gimmick in the company's opinion, you'd think they'd want to wipe out all traces of it.


Same company that hasnt wiped out Claire storyline, so cant even make that claim.


No, I think it's your manufactured, "Hey look, guys, I agree with you, so I'm one of the good posters too, and you should take me seriously!" opinion.


Drew no new fans in, not memorable...not even highlight worthy in Sting distinguished career. So nothing to do with whatever you just made up...not even sure where you got that idea from.

I'd bet if you did a poll that just Sting's big fans would take, they would show plenty of love for it. I think it was genius to have one guy who is famous for his various styles of face paint play another guy who is famous for a painted-looking face. I don't know who else could have done it better, and it was a gimmick that just had to be done by someone. It's that great an idea. The only trouble is that it would take a lot of good acting, and no wrestler can act that well. But that doesn't mean that the gimmick should not have been done and that it could not have been enjoyed.



Bunch of hearsay you criticize others for doing.

AJ had some time. Not a whole lot, but he had some. Who was Ric Fiair coming out with, who acted and dressed like classic Four Horsemen Flair? That's right- AJ. And a stable was built around him then as well. Who was that had the great programs with Samoa Joe? AJ. Who was in the most pushed at time but crappy program with the woman saying that he got her pregnant? AJ! Who had that high profile program with Kazarian and Chris Daniels? AJ!

But yeah, a lot of older guys came in and had their high profile programs too. Many complaining fans wanted them to build their home grown stars up to be mega superstars before bringing in the older guys. Probably also wait until they could compete with WWE before bringing in the older guys. But TNA never could compete with WWE, so the impatient fans just blamed it on the presence of the older guys, because the common current millennium human response to anything not liked is to blame someone without putting a lot of thought behind it so the blame goes to the right place. I remember well when that wasn't the case. At least not so much. The blame for any legitimate gripes about the older guys goes to Dixie, her creative staff and others behind the scenes. But we need to realize what the legitimate ones are, as well as who to legitimately direct them to. At the end of the day, it all needs to be laid on Dixie's doorstep.

Getting name value older talent doesn't just mean having them come in, say hi, then leave. Fans kept chanting for Sting to stay, and he had enough in the tank to stay for a while. Kurt Angle wanted a better end to his career than he got in WWE, had a lot left in the tank and enthralled fans each time he set foot in the ring, but at the same time, there were concerns about his neck, so nobody wanted him to stay if he was going to leave. Guys like Flair, Nash and Foley were nice treats. Each didn't wrestle many matches in TNA at all when it comes down to it. I still want to go back and see the Flair vs Foley hardcore match again. That was great!



Except all big name guys came in, lent their name...gave marginal performances with a hefty pay check and price. Now TNA is on the outs...Main Event Mafia wasnt taking up space? Sure look like they are making young guys take a backseat.


I didn't say it wasn't. That's what happens when you can't stay on a network, then another one, and more and more people don't have or can't find the networks. It's also what happens when you have people "help" to run it like Hogan and Bischoff and people writing for it like Vince Russo.


You can stay on a network because your stars failed to produce watchable TV and went along with the bad writing for a paycheck. It happens...

Did he ever say that? Seems to me like he left because he wanted to wrap up his career in WWE.


That time frame when he left, they were cutting pay, couldnt afford him and bouncing checks.


Then he did an indy appearance, a Japan wrestling appearance and jumped to WWE, where he concluded his career like Sting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azRQksIKyaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgztYcEg9o8

Big Kev did not like TNA in the end. Sorry, thats just fact of life.

Did he say why he left? He was wrapping up his career. I think he still is, in the indies.



Recent interviews state he wants to go back to head to WWE for one more paycheck and run for glory. TNA couldnt afford him.

Did he? He could have done it all the sooner, when he Karen initially left together.


Dixie bought Jarretts shares. Pretty much so Jarrett could run his own organization after his baby was handed to what he deemed was a "Money mark"

No. They entertained their fans and gave them an extra treat to see them more.

They didnt entertain fans, or else they would have drew in huge crowds. TNA drawin 25 fans at a houseshow in MD? Thats entertaining? Interesting take.

I was using an illustration that I was sure you would understand so I could drive my point home. So much for that. You have a one track mind- your track.


Do you even get what one track mind is used for? Not for this situation. You pretty much just admitted TNA was crap, what are you arguing for then?

I wasn't even talking to you when I said that. Why should you make a nig deal out of it?


Jesus christ, you have a poor comprehension issue. I clearly know you were talking to Harlemsushi. I mentioned that and ask you why you are contradicting yourself? You asked him "do you believe in dirtsheets?" only for you to say some dirtsheet rumors about Booker T.

You seriously need to either stop making post or remember what you write. This is a constant problem with you. You debate and say crazy things without realizing just how asinine you are.

PPV results- sometimes results of shows I missed. So what?


You said you mostly read them for PPV results. Mostly indicates you READ them for something else. You clearly do if you bring up the Booker T thing about race holding him back. Where did you get that? From Meltzer? Newsletters? Yes.

Newsflash, if you believe the results and spoilers, you believe in Dirtsheets...lol


Did I say it was a huge success? No. I only said it was good. But they most likely ended it (not killed it) because it ran its course and the creative well ran dry for it.



Putting words in my mouth now. Where did I say huge success. I asked you a simple question and you cant even answer that. You decided to make up the word huge in there. TNA downfall is signing these stars for huge money and not netting results. Thats failing as a company. TNA and its stars failed. You dont like it, tough. It is in the history books. Failed attempt on Monday nights, going live, Hogan signing, Sting signing and so on.

It is part of history now. If you are going to make up things that you claim I said...better think again. I asked you if it was a success, answer? No.

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Why are you being an idiot?


Angry because he asked you a question you couldn't answer?

you follow this up with:

Why, because you are so much better than they are? How could a human being not care about another human being's feelings? I guess we could go back in time and ask Hitler, Stalin, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, or ask ISIS today. But why be like them? What if you were a performer and you saw that someone said that you ruined the company that you performed for? What would you think, feel and say in reply?



Godwin's Law...no real reason for you to mention any of this. Maybe to make yourself sound like an intellect?


I referred to facts. If you told Booker to his face that he never had any race-related setbacks or dealt with backstage politics, he'd either be angry at you or laugh in your face.


This is you writing to Harlem...referred to facts. Wanna provide a source of these facts? Newsletters. Dirtsheets...so you are a hypocrite for asking him if he believed in Dirtsheets. Backstage politics are outlined in dirtsheets and shoot interviews which are dirtsheets as well. You seem to not understand this, no?


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I sort of mis-remembered the facts of long ago and that is that.



Anytime I do something to outsmart you or show you lack knowledge in certain things, it is me being condescending and you are the victim.

You are the same guy who said you had more knowledge of wrestling than me. Gleefully said it in an argument as if you were proud.

Mis-remembered? Can't admit that you had no clue about WWA not having TV show? I guess your ego and your pride won't let you say "My bad, I had no clue about WWA show." Because it goes to show you don't know much about it.


LOL That is that alright.

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Holy crap are you ever being a $hit-stirring idiot. What's the matter, idiot? Does someone keep crapping in your food or something that makes you want to pick someone out on a message board and harass them for everything they say? Is that how you think you can "win" as if a win is actually something good to desire on a freaking message board? How pathetic! No intelligent counters from you, no wise responses that make me re-think what I said, just treating me like a liar and saying I'm making things up and being hypocritical... and for what? Just because Harlem wants to have an unfounded problem with me and you think it would be so great to swoop in to his rescue? You are being a terrible excuse for a human being to me for no flipping good reason. Get a clue, get a job and get a life!

However you respond, I'm out of here. Go ahead and make yourself look like a hero and me and me a zero. Go ahead and pat your stupid self on the back for "running me off". Go ahead and say I threw a fit over "nothing" or I'm acting like (what ever bad thing) just because you (whatever good, innocent thing). Make yourself feel really good over that trivial garbage, even though the only way it really matters in life or on this board is because it strokes your own ego and gets you even closer with Harlem.

For Harlemushi, you respond if you want to as well. Make yourself feel better too because you think you have someone to kick around. But still= GET HELP!

I get all this crap just because I make an innocent request of the posters? Jeez.

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Holy crap are you ever being a $hit-stirring idiot. What's the matter, idiot? Does someone keep crapping in your food or something that makes you want to pick someone out on a message board and harass them for everything they say? Is that how you think you can "win" as if a win is actually something good to desire on a freaking message board? How pathetic! No intelligent counters from you, no wise responses that make me re-think what I said, just treating me like a liar and saying I'm making things up and being hypocritical... and for what? Just because Harlem wants to have an unfounded problem with me and you think it would be so great to swoop in to his rescue? You are being a terrible excuse for a human being to me for no flipping good reason. Get a clue, get a job and get a life!


 waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. So people can't reply to others on a forum? Public forum for that matter?

1) Have a job, Department of Veteran Affairs....call me we can talk about your anger issues. You are one sensitive POS who takes things personal when they question your ridiculous comments. Handle yourself in an adult manner.

2) Have a life, just seems you have a problem with telling truth and saying truthful things. Now you get angry and want to play victim again. Who is picking on you. You called him an idiot and called me stupid or an idiot because your argument falls apart. You criticize Harlem for dirtsheets, yet you are spitting stuff about Booker T backstage politics...a dirthseet item. Think before you type.

3) No hero, you are an a s s hole...you whine and cry a bit too much because people pick apart you hypocritical statements. I bring up interesting things you mention about how you are almighty knowledgeable rasslin fan. You fly off the handle.

4) No intelligent counters? You mean links I posted. The questions I asked you about success of these wrestlers who took money from TNA, now TNA can't afford to pay their employees or other companies they take from? Or how I corrected you on your WWA TV line? Or Ratings crash of TNA post Sting/Nash/Booker/etc? Yeah. Are you an adult or a child?

5) Innocent request of posters, WTF are you talking about? Go seek help and stop trying to nitpick and make questionable comments in arguments. You can't even admit you have no clue what you are talking about at times or answer simple questions given to you.


Now you can f off and cry elsewhere. Yes, you did run away...

Go back to WWE board and annoy people there.

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Holy crap are you ever being a $hit-stirring idiot. What's the matter, idiot? Does someone keep crapping in your food or something that makes you want to pick someone out on a message board and harass them for everything they say?

Once again, your victim mentality is on full display. You still haven't come to terms with the fact that when you post on the internet, there is a chance that someone will read what you say and have an opinion on it and post a response to it.

Is that how you think you can "win" as if a win is actually something good to desire on a freaking message board? How pathetic! No intelligent counters from you, no wise responses that make me re-think what I said, just treating me like a liar and saying I'm making things up and being hypocritical... and for what?

But doesn't this apply equally to you?

Just because Harlem wants to have an unfounded problem with me and you think it would be so great to swoop in to his rescue?

scadeetin, you have been dominated by me every time you have posted on this board. With that being the case what would make you think I need rescuing.

You are being a terrible excuse for a human being to me for no flipping good reason. Get a clue, get a job and get a life!

He has a job. You are the one who is unemployed with no prospects and on government assistance. This is exactly what I mean about you thinking you can help others when you can barely help yourself.

However you respond, I'm out of here. Go ahead and make yourself look like a hero and me and me a zero. Go ahead and pat your stupid self on the back for "running me off". Go ahead and say I threw a fit over "nothing" or I'm acting like (what ever bad thing) just because you (whatever good, innocent thing). Make yourself feel really good over that trivial garbage, even though the only way it really matters in life or on this board is because it strokes your own ego and gets you even closer with Harlem.

So I guess this is your dramatic exit. I would just like to remind you that you said that you would never make a dramatic exit in a previous post and here you are doing it. If you deny ever saying that, I would be happy to quote you.

For Harlemushi, you respond if you want to as well. Make yourself feel better too because you think you have someone to kick around. But still= GET HELP!

I did respond, and I encourage you to be a man and stop acting like such a victim Dave.

I get all this crap just because I make an innocent request of the posters? Jeez.

I want to correct your understanding of this point. You see, when you post on the internet, there is a chance that someone will read what you say and have an opinion on it and post a response to it. I wrote that again because its clear you do not understand that point. When I respond to you I am responding because you have difficulty understanding simple things, expressing yourself effectively, using words properly, you have a victim mentality, you backtrack when you are shown to be wrong in an attempt to save face, you use poorly constructed analogies that demonstrate you do not understand what you are talking about, you flat out lie, you tell tall tales, you have no job, no prospects, and live on government assistance; yet you feel the need to write pointless drivel. Shape up and maybe you might get somewhere in life other than in front of a computer crying about the fact that you have been dominated.

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Dude just threw a fit. He reminds me of a WWE poster who had double standards and when you called her out on it...she just flipped out.


Scadeetin, funny..he surely did make a dramatic exit.

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He'll be back and then claim that he never really left.

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Nah, he has no spine. Doubt he will be back...All he seems to do is whine and play the victim. Basically baits people into an argument and when nobody agrees with him or finds his reasoning to be stupid, he melts down.

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Nah, he has no spine.

On this point we will have to disagree. You don't tell the lies and tall tales that he does to hide the fact that he does not understand simple things and has trouble expressing himself effectively without a spine. For goodness sake, at one point he claimed to have super powers and that a global pandemic existed that only he knew about.

Doubt he will be back...All he seems to do is whine and play the victim.

I agree with you on him playing the victim as he does have a victim mentality unlike any I have ever seen. But that is mostly because he wants to be part of the conversation despite the fact that he has problems following the discussion. But rest assured, he'll be back and he'll claim some loophole like he never said how long he was leaving for.

Basically baits people into an argument and when nobody agrees with him or finds his reasoning to be stupid, he melts down.

I'll just add that before he melts down he basically posts uninformed nonsense and claims he has some higher understanding and/or tries to minimize the extent of his misunderstanding so as to save some face. It was fun making him look stupid here while it lasted and for the sake of my own entertainment, I think he will find his way back here so I can kick him around again.

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This is my official notice that things will be different now. Despite what has been said above, I'm not replying to those posts. And to the poster who I will alude to later in this post, I don't feel obligated to do what I may have told you I would do since you didn't message me back (how do I know you even read it?), but I have reasons why these posts aren't going against that anyway:

As can be seen for one's self in every affected thread, I was minding my own business and one or both of these posters assaulted me. I never threw an insult to start off trouble with them. I was blindsided every time. No other poster ever said anything about it until one day, in a private message over a recent post on the Raw board, I was told that it was a flame war in that person's mind and it was stupid. All flame wars are stupid and this multi-thread situation, whatever it is, is definitely stupid. And if it can be called a flame war, it's been a one-sided one for most of it's run (especially between me and harlemsushi). At first I didn't know what he was doing and I was being my normal, peaceful self and he simply misunderstood or pretended to misunderstand me constantly. My enlightening him (which I know now he didn't really need) was something he just was not accepting. So I did get offensive for a little while. Then I thought better of that and decided to try to make him think he needed help, but you really need at least one other player on your side for that strategy. The more, the better. And I knew it. But I had to try something. Finally, I started caring less about having a plan and just lost my cool. But if any other poster saw what harlemsushi was doing and felt that he was being mean to me, it would have been nice to at least have private messaged support.

Emerald is just a crap-stirrer (proven when he went on the raw board recently and called 2 posters turds just out of the blue) who is bosom buddies with harlemsushi and thought he should help defend him. It's quite obvious that Emerald isn't smart enough to see what his buddy was really doing to me and probably wouldn't have ever even cared. Most of his ammunition comes from harlemushi. "Original material" is a concept he wrestles with and he usually loses the matches. He's just the Beavis to harlemushi's butthead, but they're both a coupla fartknockers.

So this whole history with me and these two posters has been either:

A. The Twilight Zone in real life, since I know I really did nothing wrong or off, yet I get treated and talked to like I have.

B. What I was alluding to in my first paragraph suggestion is from research I just did on the internet. Hmmm, how could he always shoot down everything I say by saying things to me, about me that I know are 100% wrong and appear to dominate me that way? It wasn't hard to take that word he keeps using, "dominate", and consider different ways to put it, then to realize that there must be some source that tells how to dominate- or something similar, on a message board. I discovered that there are sources that can be found on Google that tell how to win a message board fight. In reading them, I saw all the things that harlemsushi did to me. It was like looking right into his mind. The rest I can piece together. I was his chosen patsy, because I didn't fight anyone and because I have a number of different unique approaches to replying to posts. They can squash all of them. He wanted to keep his skills sharpened.

C. I'm every bit the worthless, babbling, bungling, moronic message board poster they presented me as.

The answer is NOT C. There are too many relevant things in my personal history for that to be the answer. For instance, as I mentioned, I was a global moderator at the old Sting message board at the old Sting website. I was a forum moderator at a general wrestling board (also now defunct), I used to have my own elaborate website, which I wrote a lot for and I only got compliments for it. I took three writing courses and the instructors said many good things about my work. I have vast knowledge of classic films and TV (especially comedy, horror, sci fi, superheroes), cooking and the food service, and I'm very astute and sagacious in psychology and philosophy.

The answer could be A, except that this isn't happening on any other boards that I post on, here or any other site. I've seen and heard from reliable, rational sources about strange things that can't be explained though, and a totally warped sense of me on one single board would be one of them, if that applies here.

So the answer is B. Harlemsushi is obviously very evil, manipulative, and conniving. Look at those posts above. He's is discipling Emerald in poster sabotage by example, influencing him and getting him to believe in nonsense, and Emerald is eating it all up like candy.

And as poster "destroyers" they are a coupla wannabes. In my earliest days on the internet, I've seen much, much worse.

So a closing word to harlemsushi: You have now been virtually "pantsed" for all to see. How do you like that? You actually took skills that could be used for good and used them for evil. Shame on you! The next time you mess with me, I'll really be ready and you will be the one who is dominated. And if I ever see you pull this on another undeserving poster again, I'll be there and you will lose then as well. You will rue the day you ever started toying with me!

And Emerald, you need to watch it too, or just like with harlemushi, I'll be the great white shark in your every message board ocean.

Next post: I have such a good handle on evil slime harlemsushi now, that I'll predict his responses:

Watch out for public enemy #1, Gyp DePeople!

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Harlemsushi's responses to previous post predicted:


This is my official notice that things will be different now.


Possible responses:

Probably not. You'll eventually have another dramatic exit, after another run of another poorly constructed analogies, made up stories, more lies, more of ineffectively expressing yourself, more speaking for others, more displays of your victim mentality, more misunderstanding of simple things... all while living on government assistance.

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You mean you will not have another dramatic exit after another run of another poorly constructed analogies, made up stories, more lies, more of ineffectively expressing yourself, more speaking for others, more displays of your victim mentality, more misunderstanding of simple things... all while living on government assistance? You will do better now?



Despite what has been said above, I'm not replying to those posts:


Hmmm. Maybe you are starting to wise up then, realizing that as long as you post back to me, I'll just continue to dominate you and prod you for more. But the fact is that you are still giving me something to work with here, so my prodding worked and here I'll dominate you once again. Whenever you do stop for good, if ever, you will leave off dominated. Will you ever learn that?
RED OFF

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Here you are already lying again. Any post that refers to the posts above is a response to those posts. And you did mention those posts. So this another lie I caught you in.


And to the poster who I will allude to later in this post, I don't feel obligated to do what I may have told you I would do since you didn't message me back (how do I know you even read it?), but I have reasons why these posts aren't going against that anyway:


Sounds like more dishonesty and excuse making to me. How exactly are things any different here? You''l display your other misgivings soon enough in this post, so nothing is different. That's another word you used that you don't know the meaning of.


As can be seen for one's self in every affected thread, I was minding my own business and one or both of these posters assaulted me.


A wonderful example of that victim's mentality! Thank you! And you still do not understand that when you post on the internet, there is a chance that someone will read what you say and have an opinion on it and post a response to it.

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You mean you were minding your own business of constructing poor analogies, making up stories, telling more lies. expressing yourself ineffectively, speaking for others, displaying your victim's mentality, misunderstanding simple things... all while living on government assistance. We are just setting you straight when you need it and you fault us for that?


I never threw an insult to start off trouble with them. I was blindsided every time.


No, you were too busy throwing poorly constructed analogies, made up stories and lies, expressing yourself ineffectively, speaking for others, displaying your victim's mentality, misunderstanding simple things... all while living on government assistance. And there's that victim's mentality now! It shows that you do not understand that when you post on the internet, there is a chance that someone will read what you say and have an opinion on it and post a response to it. When you do any or all of those things, you can expect trouble to start off.

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Well, the trouble started when you threw portly constructed analogies, made up stories, told more lies, expressed yourself ineffectively, spoke for others, displayed your victim's mentality and misunderstood simple things... all while living on government assistance. And there's that victim's mentality now! It shows that you want to be coddled and you do not understand that when you post on the internet, there is a chance that someone will read what you say and have an opinion on it and post a response to it. When you do any or all of those things, you can expect trouble to start off.

(I know- not much of a difference here, but both started off differently and both are totally typical harlemsushi. All problems supposedly lie with me and he's perfect- which he will no doubt say to that, that he never said he was)


No other poster ever said anything about it


Why should they? I was handling you just fine and didn't need their help.

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What should they say? I was saying it all to you for saying things that shouldn't have been said in the first place.


until one day, in a private message over a recent post on the Raw board, I was told that it was a flame war in that poster's mind and it was stupid. All flame wars are stupid and this multi-thread situation, whatever it is, is definitely stupid. And if it can be called a flame war, it's been a one-sided one for most of it's run (especially between me and harlemsushi).


I entirely agree, except that these threads have been more like me putting you in your place and you not wanting to accept that than an actual flame war. For a "war", it has always been very one-sided as you don't have the wherewithal to make it an actual war on your part. You just bring the stupid. It takes 2 to tango and what you do isn't tangoing.

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I entirely agree and it wouldn't have been stupid if you had not made poorly constructed analogies, made up stories, told more lies, expressed yourself ineffectively, spoke for others, displayed your victim's mentality and misunderstood simple things.


At first I didn't know what he was doing and I was my normal peaceful self and he simply misunderstood or pretended to misunderstand me increasingly. My enlightening him (which I know now he didn't really need) was something he just was not accepting. So I did get offensive for a little while.

You continually had trouble expressing yourself effectively and that's somehow my fault? Then, yes, you did get offensive instead of admitting and accepting responsibility for your failures. I see you also think you somehow knoe what I needed and didn't need. I guess that's something else we can add to the ever growing list of your misgivings.

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Wow. Here we have an innocent act, vilification of me, blaming me for your inability to express yourself effectively, bringing up your inability to admit and take responsibility for your failures, and a new misgiving to add to your ever-growing list: thinking that you somehow know what I ever need or don't need. That must be a record for you. Congratulations!


Then I thought better of that and decided to try to make him think he needed help, but you really need at least one other player on your side for that strategy. The more, the better. And I knew it.


There lies your whole problem, if you really think this is just some game or contest of one-upmanship. I continually dominate you and stay up on you because you just don't face up to your misgivings and you think this has been all just a game or a meaningless rivalry. Instead of taking the right course, you get offensive, then you try to get me to believe I need help. What would it have been next. I guess nothing, because you exploded and made a dramatic exit because you were frustrated that you couldn't think of anything else to try and because you knew you were beaten. Now you are back because you seem to have had the idea to claim that I was just up to something evil. I can't wait to see what you'll do next!

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So you resorted to low tactics because I was truthfully pointing out your misgivings in order to help you... and I'm the villain? Is enacting a "strategy" you knew would fail really better than getting offensive? If anything, it's more mental.


But I had to try something.


Yes, anything but admit your misgivings and taking responsibility for your failures.

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Here is an idea: why not try admitting your misgivings and taking responsibility for your failures? But I hope you don't, because I like to see you try other different things and fail. It's just so entertaining.


Finally, I started caring less about having a plan and just lost my cool.


If you actually had any "cool" to begin with, I didn't notice it. And you just couldn't care less in general. That's why you insist on just trying to make normal posts in normal discussions with all your misgivings on full display. But I won't let you do that here because I care. You can get offensive, you can tell tall tales, you can say I'm evil and up to something and you can want to be coddled, but I'll still care enough to continue on as I am and maybe you'll see the error of your ways someday, and admit and take responsibility for your own failures.

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Maye this would have been a step or 2 in the right direction if you had not just gone back to making plans to get the upper hand after that.


But if any other poster saw what harlemsushi was doing and felt that he was being mean to me, it would have been nice to at least have private messaged support.


I would guess other posters could see that you do have all those misgivings and that I am doing a splendid job of handling you on my own, rather than seeing what you claim there was to it, hence that poster telling you that this "flame war" has been stupid.

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You think others would coddle you and support you in having all those misgivings and believing I have only been mean to you? Goodness, you are deluded.


Emerald is just a crap-stirrer (proven when he went on the raw board recently and called 2 posters turds just out of the blue)


Once again, you can't understand that when you post on the internet, there is a chance that someone will read what you say and have an opinion on it and post a response to it.

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I doubt it was "just out of the blue". He usually has good reasons for his criticisms. I know you haven been despicable with me.


who is bosom buddies with harlemsushi and thought he should help defend him.


Why would he think I need defending or that I would need help defending myself? He just wanted to add things, which is his right. Also, you have always been jealous that we are friendly with each other. Maybe you could have had that with someone as well if you would have or could have admitted, taken responsibility for, and taken care of your misgivings.

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He's only another poster who understands, unlike you, that when you post on the internet, there is a chance that someone will read what you say and have an opinion on it and post a response to it. He was merely exercising his rights. Whether or not you see it as defense is irrelevant.


It's quite obvious that Emerald isn't smart enough to see what his buddy was realy doing to me and probably wouldn't have ever even cared.


You just don't stop with your victim's mentality in this post. I think it's the most I've ever seen on display in one post. Also, unlike you, he understands that when you post on the internet, there is a chance that someone will read what you say and have an opinion on it and post a response to it.

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If anyone isn't smart enough to see what someone is doing and may not even care, it's you, concerning yourself, even when it is pointed out to you.


Most of his ammunition comes from harlemsushi. "Original material" is a concept he wrestles with and he usually loses the matches.


Like you lose your matches with me?

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He's just echoing what I say to emphasize it in hopes that you will get it, while it's you who are actually doing the wrestling- with his own misgivings- and losing the matches badly.


He's just the Beavis to harlemsushi's butthead, but they're both a coupla fartknockers.


If that's what you want to believe, so be it. At least he isn't Beavis and Buttead rolled up into one, like you.

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Once again, you are being ornery and insulting instead of admitting and taking responsibility for your failures when someone innocently points them out to you.


So this whole history with me and these two posters has been either:

A. The Twilight Zone in real life, since I know I never did anything wrong or off, yet I'm being treated and talked to like I have.


Well, if something seems Twilight Zone-ish to you about you displaying all your misgivings and not admitting them or taking responsibility for your failures when they are pointed out to you, I'm glad you weren't Rod Serling, or it would have been a really boring, useless show. And again, there's that denial and victim's mentality. How's that working for you, champ?

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Now you are saying you are just living an episode of a fictitious, old anthology TV show which you are showing is yet another thing that you don't understand, but speak as if you do? Is that going to be your next tactic? You would really do anything to avoid accepting the reality of this situation. And again, there's that denial and victim's mentality.


B. What I was alluding to in my first paragraph suggestion is from research I just did. Hmmm, how could he always shoot down everything I say by saying things to me, about me that I know are 100% wrong and appear to dominate me that way? It wasn't hard to take that word he keeps using, "dominate", and consider different ways to put it, then to realize that there must be some source that tells how to dominate- or something similar, on a message board. I discovered that there are sources that can be found on Google that tell how to win a message board fight. In reading them, I saw all the things that harlemsushi did to me. It was like looking right into his mind.


I have no idea what you are talking about. You are once again making up stories. I just know how to handle posters like you, but I'll take this as an admission of my dominating you and that even actually declared me the winner here, even though you just tried to rationalize it. I'm glad you did research though. You might want to make your next research project on how to admit your misgivings and take responsibility for your failures.

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All this is, is that you are dramatically stating that you just looked up how to win a message board fight in hopes of beating me, but it's not going to work. Not when you simply have misgivings that you don't admit to and failures that you don't take responsibility for and I can just bring them up every time.


The rest I can piece together.


You've attempted to "piece" things together before, and the pieces never fit together, but you went on like they did because you have trouble understanding simple things.

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Then you are attempting to read my mind again and speak for someone else again. This should be interesting. Let's see what you came up with...


I was his chosen patsy,


Again, I don't know what you are taking about. I do know that you have been your own patsy. Every time you made up one of those tales such as Professor X powers and being philosophical with words, you tested those tales to see what would work for you in our conflicts.

(Scadeetin says: For the record, my only chosen Patsy is the late Ms. Cline)

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This is what you came up with? Well, back to the old victim's mentality yet again.


because I didn't fight anyone, and because I have a number of different unique approaches to replying to posts. He can work to squash all of them and see how frustrated I get. He wanted to keep his skills sharpened.


Actually, I did need someone to help me make sure that I could handle myself in a message board disagreement and keep those skills sharpened. Because of you, I've been sure for a long time now, that I can do just fine. So thanks! But to think I actually chose you as my patsy? Keep the dream alive, champ! You are just making an excuse for that victim's mentality and you want to be coddled. Also, now you have mentioned things you could definitely improve on, but nowhere near as much as the major misgivings of yours that I exposed. For instance, you say you have "unique approaches to replying to posts", but that is just an attempt to cover up those misgivings that you know you have but you don't want to admit are misgivings that it would really be to your benefit to work on.

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Here again is the innocent denial act, my vilification and you making excuses for having your misgivings instead of admitting them and taking responsibility for your failures. Obviously though, my skills for handling myself in message board disagreements are sharp. Thanks for noticing.


C. I'm every bit the worthless, babbling, bungling, moronic message board poster they presented me as.


Now, you are getting it! Or are you? I'm guessing you won't actually pick this option, which would be a tremendous step in the right direction for both of us. Then you could start facing your misgivings, I can help you deal with them and everything will move towards being good again. But I guess you won't pick this option. Let's see if I'm right...

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Well, maybe not moronic. You are being a little hard on yourself there. It is actually denial and not wanting to face your misgivings so you are trying everything but that. To your detriment, I might add. But the rest of this option is right on the money. You won't choose it though, will you?


The answer is NOT C.


Yes, I was right. I guess now that you will go for the victim's mentality option B.

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I knew it. So if you fail with one of the other options, will you say it is the other? If so, thanks for the preview.


There are too many relevant things in my personal history for that to be the answer.


Do tell. Let's see what you think they are...

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Not as far as we have seen. Anything you bring up that we haven't seen on this board requires proof, which you won't and can't provide.


For instance, as I mentioned, I was a global moderator at the old Sting message board at the old Sting website.


You brought that up last time and I already had things to say against that likelihood. I encourage you to go back and read them if you haven't already.


I was a forum moderator at a general wrestling board (also now defunct),


Another board that's conveniently defunct, rendering your reference unprovable? Why don't you mention ten more that you had a position of honor at? That would help your case just as much.

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If you are such a good moderator, why aren't you a current one somewhere?


I used to have my own elaborate website, which I wrote a lot for and I only got compliments for it.


Used to have? Don't you have anything current that you can prove yourself with? Or will you just keep on tooting your own made up horns?


I took three writing courses and the instructors said many good things about my work.


Then why don't you display those good things here? Toot, toot!

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So you had three writing courses and nothing to show them since then?


I have vast knowledge of classic films and TV (especially comedy, horror, sci fi, superheroes),


I don't know why you think this is relevant, but least we know now how you thought up your claims of having super powers.

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cooking and the food service,


So you learned how to cook up poorly constructed analogies, made up stories, more lies, ways to express yourself ineffectively, ways to speak for others, ways to display your victim's mentality and ways to misunderstand simple things, and that's all in your service to feed our hunger for entertainment. Good job!

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Again, irrelevant, but it does remind me of your story of failure at your job, before you were fired and got on the government assistance.


and I'm very astute and sagacious in psychology and philosophy.


You could have fooled me about both. We saw what you think you know about philosophy, which turned out to be another in the long list of topics that you misunderstand and tall tales that you tell.

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Yes, it was nice psychology to think that you could convince me that I needed help all by yourself. If you knew so much about psychology, you would just admit your misgivings and take responsibility for your failures. As for philosophy, you have shown that you don't understand how that works. So we can add psychology to the ever-growing list of things you don't understand and place it right next to philosophy to alphabetize it.


The answer could be A, except that this isn't happening on any other boards that I post on, here or any other site. I've seen and heard from reliable, rational sources about strange things that can't be explained though, and a totally warped sense of me on one single board would be one of them, if that applies here.


It doesn't. I have you pegged. Nothing paranormally strange or scientifically unexplained is going on here. Just one guy who won't admit his many misgivings or take responsibility for his own failures.

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This means that you picked the big victim's mentality choice. Why am I not surprised and why don't I think we've seen the end of it in this post?


So the answer is B. Harlemsushi is obviously very evil, manipulative, and conniving.


If pointing out your misgivings to try to get you to admit them, and your failures to try to get you to take responsibility for them is "very evil, manipulative and conniving", I guess I'm guilty, but I just don't see it like you describe it. Call it whatever you want, but I will keep right on, until you see the light and do something about your issues. The one you show here is your need to be coddled. You are just angry that I won't do that.

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Of course you would pick B, then spin what I do for to be "evil, manipulative and conniving". Anything to avoid admitting your misgivings and taking responsibility for your failures.


Look at those posts above. He's is discipling Emerald in poster in sabotage by example and by discussion, influencing him and getting him to believe in nonsense, and Emerald is eating it all up like candy.


That's how you see those posts? I wasn't discipling anybody. We were simply discussing you, your ways and your dramatic exit. And there is another poorly constructed analogy. Please don't drag me into them. I think Emerald would say the same for himself.

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Those posts above only should have taught you about your issues and hammered the points home. You still haven't learned, but I won't give up. There is your victim's mentality again, calling it "sabotage". Goodness, that mentality is really in full force in this post. And please don't drag me into your poorly constructed analogies. I think Emerald would say the same for himself.


And as poster "destroyers" they are a coupla wannabes. In my earliest days on the internet, I've seen much, much worse.


Goodness, now you think we wanted to destroy you? You really pulled that out of nowhere. Can your victim's mentality get any worse? It sounds like it must be in a relapse from those "earliest days".


So a closing word to harlemsushi: You have now been virtually "pantsed" for all to see. How do you like that? You actually took skills that could be used for good and used them for evil. Shame on you! The next time you mess with me, I'll really be ready and you will be the one who is dominated. And if I ever see you pull this on another undeserving poster again, I'll be there and you will lose then as well. You will rue the day you ever started toying with me!


Pantsed? I guess that's another thing in addition to the "cream pie" reference in a past post of yours that signify your inner homosexual desires. Now it seems obvious that you want to pants me and give me a cream pie. Please don't tell me what you want to do to me in between those. I'm not interested in that or being with you. Your ridiculous claim of victory (on the off-chance that the "pantsed" line was actually one) and meaningless threats are just desperation tactics so you will feel better and have an excuse to keep all your misgivings and go on posting like nothing is wrong with you. Shame on you, not me! You have already rued the day you ever started with me, and when you made your previews dramatic exit, you really rued it. You will once again rue going against me, but never the other way around.


And Emerald, you need to watch it too, or just like with harlemushi, I'll be the great white shark in your every message board ocean.


Another poorly constructed analogy. You have no say over what people do or don't do on message boards, no matter what you think or what you do. Thinking that you do is another of your misgivings. As for what you've done to me, it actually amounts to nothing more than a guppy nudging a goldfish in a fishtank. I'll always be here to slap you down when you need it, just like I just did.


Next post: I have such a good handle on evil slime harlemsushi now, that I'll predict his responses and show that I was always sure where I was coming from, and I never thought anything of his meaningless drivel:


Yes, you really dominated YOURSELF this time, on my behalf! Maybe I am getting through to you after all. Maybe all this means that you have an inner struggle to either accept the things I've been saying to and about you or what you have believed (or claimed to believe) about yourself. If so, don't blow this. Others can often see what's going on with a person better than they themselves can realize and every reader of this and other threads in which we clashed can see what's really going on with you, as do I. The sooner you realize that and accept what I've been saying to you, the sooner you can take care of all your issues and the better off you and this board will be.

Watch out for public enemy #1, Gyp DePeople!

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LOL did you spend 3 post talking to yourself?


What a nutcase.

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Of course not. They were to anyone who would be interested. Glad to see you're of good cheer though. Maybe it's the holiday...

Watch out for public enemy #1, Gyp DePeople!

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You need some serious help, coward. You waited a month to make this poorly constructed post. Not even sure where you get this "sh*t stirrer" line. Its a message board and I am responded to your post.

You are a whiney lil baby who was embarrassed last time you were here. You threw a fit and ran off.

Be a man...

And by the way, were you angry or drunk when you wrote those opening salvos? Alude to anyone? You named us...moron.


Also, two people I called cowards, are trolls like you. One makes a lot of hateful comments and the other tried to call me about my military service, provided proof to shut him up.


You are a coward Scad, you run your mouth about the President, you never served....you are a bum on government assistance. Stay in your lane.

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This is my official notice that things will be different now.

Aren't you cute. Keep telling yourself that and hoping it comes true.

Despite what has been said above, I'm not replying to those posts.

You are not responding to those posts because you are hoping to hit the reset button on this. But as usual, I'll continue putting you in your place.

And to the poster who I will alude to later in this post, I don't feel obligated to do what I may have told you I would do since you didn't message me back (how do I know you even read it?), but I have reasons why these posts aren't going against that anyway:

I don't understand why you are being so cryptic in these posts. Say what you mean to say. This is another example of your inability to communicate effectively.

As can be seen for one's self in every affected thread, I was minding my own business and one or both of these posters assaulted me. I never threw an insult to start off trouble with them. I was blindsided every time.

This is another example of your victim mentality on display. In actuality, you were not just lurking here and minding your own business. You were actively posting various forms of nonsense, misunderstandings, tall tales, and falsehoods and you did not appreciate being called out on it. The simple fact is that you still have not come to terms with the fact that when you post on the internet, there is a chance that someone will read what you say and have an opinion on it and post a response to it.

No other poster ever said anything about it until one day, in a private message over a recent post on the Raw board, I was told that it was a flame war in that person's mind and it was stupid.

Wrong, I told you in every post that I was entertaining myself at your expense. How could you possibly miss that?

All flame wars are stupid and this multi-thread situation, whatever it is, is definitely stupid.

Do you consider it stupid because you've been dominated across multiple threads or because of the nonsense you have contributed? And I don't mean that question to be a backhanded insult, so don't take it that way; I just find it odd that you can call this situation stupid when you caused it and admittedly contributed to it.

And if it can be called a flame war, it's been a one-sided one for most of it's run (especially between me and harlemsushi).

It has not been one sided for most of its run, its been one sided for the entire run to the point where I have dominated you to the extent that you are creating tall tales and elaborate lies to cover up the fact that you difficulty understanding simple things, expressing yourself effectively, using words properly, you have a victim mentality, you backtrack when you are shown to be wrong in an attempt to save face, you use poorly constructed analogies that demonstrate you do not understand what you are talking about, you flat out lie, you tell tall tales, you have no job, no prospects, and live on government assistance; yet you feel the need to write pointless drivel.

At first I didn't know what he was doing and I was being my normal, peaceful self and he simply misunderstood or pretended to misunderstand me constantly. My enlightening him (which I know now he didn't really need) was something he just was not accepting. So I did get offensive for a little while.

Offensive? Is this what you call lying about global pandemics, using words improperly, backtracking, telling tall tales, and lying?

Then I thought better of that and decided to try to make him think he needed help, but you really need at least one other player on your side for that strategy. The more, the better. And I knew it. But I had to try something.

Trying to make me "think" I need help? So you are basically admitting that this entire time you were saying that, that it was essentially a lie you created because you did not have one meaningful argument or solvent point. Just like song lyrics, it was another failed strategy on your part to try and save face.

Finally, I started caring less about having a plan and just lost my cool. But if any other poster saw what harlemsushi was doing and felt that he was being mean to me, it would have been nice to at least have private messaged support.

As I said, I posted this in almost every one of my replies to you. So in essence you should be thanking me for having pointed this out to you. Also sneak in that "thank you," for the portion of my tax dollars that goes to the government assistance that supports you.

Emerald is just a crap-stirrer (proven when he went on the raw board recently and called 2 posters turds just out of the blue) who is bosom buddies with harlemsushi and thought he should help defend him.

I guess "bosom buddies" is a slightly less offensive term that you are currently using to try and get across the same homophobic point that you made earlier. If nothing else you are a persistent homophobe.

It's quite obvious that Emerald isn't smart enough to see what his buddy was really doing to me and probably wouldn't have ever even cared. Most of his ammunition comes from harlemushi.

Actually the majority of his responses were to things you said and responses you had to me.

"Original material" is a concept he wrestles with and he usually loses the matches. He's just the Beavis to harlemushi's butthead, but they're both a coupla fartknockers.

I have dominated you effectively and he had put you in your place to the point that you had a tantrum and ran off like a spoiled child. With that in mind, a sophomoric insult from you does little to hurt my feelings and more makes me laugh at your inability to even generate an effective insult.

So this whole history with me and these two posters has been either:


This is going to be hilarious. I can already feel it.

A. The Twilight Zone in real life, since I know I really did nothing wrong or off, yet I get treated and talked to like I have.

So your first summation of the "whole history" between us is basically reinforcing your victim mentality.

B. What I was alluding to in my first paragraph suggestion is from research I just did on the internet. Hmmm, how could he always shoot down everything I say by saying things to me, about me that I know are 100% wrong and appear to dominate me that way? It wasn't hard to take that word he keeps using, "dominate", and consider different ways to put it, then to realize that there must be some source that tells how to dominate- or something similar, on a message board. I discovered that there are sources that can be found on Google that tell how to win a message board fight. In reading them, I saw all the things that harlemsushi did to me. It was like looking right into his mind. The rest I can piece together. I was his chosen patsy, because I didn't fight anyone and because I have a number of different unique approaches to replying to posts. They can squash all of them. He wanted to keep his skills sharpened.

So your second summation is a variation on your initial reinforcement of your victim mentality, except this time you discovered something on google that you read. The only thing I don't believe about this is that you read something and understood it without someone dumbing it down and explaining it to you repeatedly.

C. I'm every bit the worthless, babbling, bungling, moronic message board poster they presented me as.

More like to one that you present yourself to be.

The answer is NOT C.

I know it may be difficult for you to admit but it could possibly be the answer.

There are too many relevant things in my personal history for that to be the answer.

This should be rich.

For instance, as I mentioned, I was a global moderator at the old Sting message board at the old Sting website.

So you were a moderator on a website that no longer exists and that no one can verify that you were actually a moderator on. How convenient.

I was a forum moderator at a general wrestling board (also now defunct),

Again, you were a moderator on a website that no longer exists and that no one can verify that you were actually a moderator on. How convenient.

I used to have my own elaborate website, which I wrote a lot for and I only got compliments for it.

The website no longer exists and there is no way that anyone can verify it actually existed let alone that you "only got compliments for it." I'm beginning to see a pattern here.

I took three writing courses and the instructors said many good things about my work.

Again, another unverifiable statement.

I have vast knowledge of classic films and TV (especially comedy, horror, sci fi, superheroes), cooking and the food service, and I'm very astute and sagacious in psychology and philosophy.

Based on what you have posted here, all of that seems false as you have never been able to make a solvent point on any of those topics. So unless you are willing to offer proof on any of those statements, they are all unverifiable. But for the record I will bump the other thread so that there is a full document of your nonsense.

The answer could be A, except that this isn't happening on any other boards that I post on, here or any other site. I've seen and heard from reliable, rational sources about strange things that can't be explained though, and a totally warped sense of me on one single board would be one of them, if that applies here.

Are you saying that it could be your victim mentality but no one else is complaining about it? That is largely because on the Raw board you are generally ignored and fade into the background noise.

So the answer is B. Harlemsushi is obviously very evil, manipulative, and conniving. Look at those posts above. He's is discipling Emerald in poster sabotage by example, influencing him and getting him to believe in nonsense, and Emerald is eating it all up like candy.

So you chose your victim mentality option with a twist. How surprising.

And as poster "destroyers" they are a coupla wannabes. In my earliest days on the internet, I've seen much, much worse.

I have no idea what a "poster destroyer" is, but I have no doubt that it is something that feeds into your victim mentality.

So a closing word to harlemsushi: You have now been virtually "pantsed" for all to see. How do you like that?

So your idea of victory is announcing that you have taken off another man's pants in front of other people. Why do you care so much about what other people think? If you were less concerned about that and more concerned about creating solvent points we might be able to have a substantive discussion. But that is impossible due to your difficulty understanding simple things, expressing yourself effectively, using words properly, and putting your victim mentality on full display.

You actually took skills that could be used for good and used them for evil. Shame on you!

How is pointing out that you have no idea what you are talking about and that you have difficulty understanding simple things, expressing yourself effectively, using words properly, and a victim mentality evil?

The next time you mess with me, I'll really be ready and you will be the one who is dominated. And if I ever see you pull this on another undeserving poster again, I'll be there and you will lose then as well. You will rue the day you ever started toying with me!

Well here we are so man up, do something about it, and continue entertaining me.

And Emerald, you need to watch it too, or just like with harlemushi, I'll be the great white shark in your every message board ocean.

I love hearing the way that a man with no job, no prospects, and who is on government assistance characterizes himself and in your mind you are some sort of marine predator.

Next post: I have such a good handle on evil slime harlemsushi now, that I'll predict his responses:

Thank you for that. You essentially spent two extra posts talking to yourself and attempting to mimic my posting style of using red quotes and you couldn't even get that right. But nonetheless, thank you again for the amusement as you never disappoint. Keep up the good work and post on scadeetin, post on!

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He should also note that I been mocking him for past few years, so not sure why he seems to think I came out of nowhere. Especially if he keeps calling me Emerald.

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Good cheer, because you know and I know that you are just a character that says stupid things and rambles a lot.

You are also a cowardly human being who reports people because they "did you wrong" by mocking your post and crybaby behavior.


You are one insecure guy, cant even handle criticism or questions on a message board.

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I'll start this off with a song- and the instrumental version so you cab sing along! (with appreciation (and apologies?) to Queen and Weird Al Yankovic)

Maybe you should have started this off with a cogent point instead because once again all you've proven is an inability to even gather the wherewithal to mount an effective insult much less argue a point. If this was your attempt to save some face, rest assured you failed as bad as Sting did in TNA. The only difference is he likely can recognize that and you can't.

Realy? Grating? Low point of his entire career? I loved every bit of Joker Sting. The reason you may not is because you consider it an impression.

It was an embarrassment to his the legacy. The goal of the gimmick was for Sting to be unhinged, but due to his poor acting ability what we got instead was a weird impression that was more Jim Carrey meets Caesar Romero's wrapped in the make up that Heath Ledger sported in in Dark Knight. The impression was an over the top, childish, and cartoony failing on every level. It was just sad really.

I consider it his own take on it- and he might have even been paying homage. So just because someone's character is based on another, it doesn't make it an impression.

His character was not based off another character, they were trying to cash in on the success of Heath Ledger's Joker and because Sting could not act what we got instead was a bad impression. At least in WCW with Crow Sting all he had to do was stand in there and look brooding or stare down from the rafters. As soon as the situation called for him to do more than that everything fell apart and we got moments like this which were just cringeworthy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj3qmo6JbP0 But I guess you loved every bit of that like you said.

Many humble perforners have said they could never do justice to their portrayl like the original performer and shy away from calling their portrayal an impression. I believe Sting would do that. He knows acting isn't his strong suit- and he knows that pro wrestling is for people whose strong suit is not acting, but can manage some. I realized that way back in the 1980's.

I do not know who these "humble performers" which you are referring to are, but whatever they believed has nothing to do with the fact that Sting's did a bad impression for several months that I felt embarrassed for him.

Sounds like you are blurring the lines between storyline and real life here. It was actually all storyline. I'm not sure you know whether you're on foot or horseback. This was the lowest point in Sting's career.

How do you get the impression that I'm "blurring the lines between storyline and real life," when I referred to it as a storyline in the actual snippet you quoted? Further, if you are agreeing that it was the low point of Sting's career then what are you even arguing here?

Why mention the Victory Road incident (Just saw it on youtube. Wow, that was indeed real)? Like Mike Tenay said, he surely didn't know the chair was even there. Other big names have had similar unfortunate incidents, but that kind of thing doesn't take anything away from them and surely does not mean that they are bringing the company down.

I mentioned it because it was an example of the fact that Sting had really lost more than a couple of steps at that point in his career but he was still wrestling for that paycheck.

Sting's presence did not prevent TNA from reaching the next level, but how the writers/bookers used it is a different story.

Sting took up a roster spot and cost the company quite a bit of money to have him on the roster. He did not grow the company at all and was just another person charging Dixie a premium and not really adding anything to the company.

Emerald reminded me of that (in a rather condescending way, I might add, but that's just how he tends to be).

Why are you always looking for people to coddle you? You were wrong about what you said and he reminded you. That is that.

I just haven't thought enough about it in all the years since to remember that as well as others.

Then that begs the question of why you are talking about something you admittedly do not have any recollection of?

As for your supposing of my "instances", I've never had such instances. I've pnly had what you have made out to be instances because the whole meaning in your life is to have someone to mess with.

There are entire threads here serving as examples of you getting caught talking about something you know nothing about. Perhaps the most famous was your lack of understanding of the relationship between ratings and advertisers. While that particular thread is no longer here, others are and I would be happy to link you to them if you would like.

I'm not speaking for others- just giving my littl figurings based on what others have said all these years.

You are describing what others thought and expressing that as fact when in reality you have no idea and are just talking out of your rear end and upset that you were caught doing it.

I know from learning from others who know what they are talking about who have even provided long-forgotten links to their sources. Even if I was just speculating, there is nothing wrong with speculation. Plato, Socrates, Sigmund Freud- they all speculated.

The speculation you are engaging in has conclusions which are hypothetical statements wrapped around a premise which is based on second and third hand anecdotes. You are inferring a connection between an antecedent and a consequent from the anecdotes stated in the premise.

Says you. I wouldn't ask the opinion of someone who needs as half as much professoinal help as you do.

You have difficulty understanding simple things, expressing yourself effectively, using words properly, you have a victim mentality, no job, no prospects, and live on government assistance. Considering those things, why would you think you have any ability to judge whether someone needs help when you obviously are unable to help yourself.

Looks like you're the one who has trouble keeping up. Really. In your attempts to prod me, you can't see how vilainous but very stupid you look. I was only asking for people to be more aware of their phrasing so they can appear as intelligent as they actually are and show that they don't mean what it looks like they said.

The only one that looks stupid is the one who is asking others to dumb down their posts because they are having trouble understanding what grown folks are talking about.

What if Sting or his family members perused this board and saw "Sting failed" several times? How do you suppose that would make them feel?

Sting is a performer and I would be commenting on his performance. If he or his family would read what I have written and they take issue with it or agree with it then they are more than welcome to post. But their feelings (positive or negative) are irrelevant to me.

You never got a first one, but thank you for continuing to show your true colors.

I have an entire thread that I can link you to that displays your difficulty understanding simple things as well as your lies and tall tales of you having super powers and explaining away your inability to use words properly as an imaginary global pandemic. Here is the thread in case you want to reminisce: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421463/board/flat/256965214?p=1

Blame that on the lack of awareness of TNA or of what network they were on and/or the availability of the network, the way they ran things that got them bad reviews and turned people off, not the big stars.

They were hired to elevate the product and in many cases just phoned in their performances, took up a roster spot, and collected a paycheck. The talent was high priced, but at that point in their career they weren't as talented or entertaining as Jay Lethal, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Mr. Anderson, or any of the countless wrestlers who took a back seat to so people in their late forties could have matches no one really wanted to see.

My above response says why.

Your above response demonstrates a misunderstanding of the issue.

Like I said, TNA's fault. Not the stars. Those matches could have merely been high attraction matches rather than main attraction matches.

Regardless of where it was on the card, Hulk Hogan vs Sting at Bound For Glory 2011 worked on no level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCINhc9cce0 You can't tell me that the writers/bookers wanted the match to go down that way and it was exactly what they hoped it would be.

You believe dirt sheet rumors? Tsk, tsk. Maybe that was Hogan and Bischoff, but probably no one else. I enjoyed Booker in TNA and I don't think he was at all iike WCW Hogan circa 1999 or any time. Booker was a guy that had his pushes in his pre-TNA history but he had to deal with race-related setbacks and backstage politics too.

I'm sorry, but is it really an argument to accuse me of believing "dirt sheet rumors" when you refer to them in your response? (i.e. having to deal with race-related setbacks and backstage politics.) You can't have it both ways.

There was no reason to believe that he would have come into TNA feeling like a prima donna and believing he was as big as Hulk Hogan and could make demands like him.

No, but it does not change the fact that at some point during his TNA tenure that is what he became.

How does one contribute to a post besides their own when they can only edit their own?

I meant to write thread, but I guess you are going to spend the next several posts trying to find vindication in that error.

Stevie Wonder could see that I never gave you one.

That is because you have given me many and continue to give me contemporaneous examples.

Why don't you sit up and beg like a good dog? You know you want to. I'm offering Scooby Snacks. Then you can satisfy yourself with your chew toys while we actual human beings chat.

I would rather not take candy from a strange man who talks about giving another man a "cream pie." Well it is about time for one of your poorly constructed analogies. So post on scadeetin, post on!

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Maybe you should have started this off with a cogent point instead because once again all you've proven is an inability to even gather the wherewithal to mount an effective insult much less argue a point.


My lyrics had many cogent points, but I guess that style of point making doesn't register with you. I have no real purpose for insulting, but I did get off a few what could very well be considered zingers in there.

If this was your attempt to save some face, rest assured you failed as bad as Sting did in TNA.


Then I would have done pretty darn good, because Sting entertained and treated his fans, so he did not fail. You are considering how TNA failed with him, but apparently, you haven't been able to see that correctly. Anyway, I have no need of saving face at all- especially since this only started with me merely making a proper, humble request and attempting to get posters to realize that no legend or veteran failed TNA. TNA failed with them, in the same way that if you use an inappropriate sweetener in your baking, your finished product won't taste good. I've had a cookie sweetened with Sweet 'n Low. It's not recommended. The whole batch tastes off. Same goes for a wrestling company if any talent is misused (to sweeten it). Now I hope you can identify with a baking illustration.

The only difference is he likely can recognize that and you can't.


He realizes what I said. I used to post on his site's message board, when the site and the board were up and running- and I was even a global moderator. He was an administrator and would pop in on occasion to answer questions and such. That was therealsting.org- and you can enter that at archive.org's Wayback machine section and see for yourself. So I know how he thought about it. In fact, I know most of the other legends and veterans thought the same way about it. Not only is that one thing I got from Sting himself, concerning himself and others, but it's easy to figure out anyway.

It was an embarrassment to his the legacy.


In your opinion. Anyone can make anything they want out of anyone's legacy.

The goal of the gimmick was for Sting to be unhinged, but due to his poor acting ability what we got instead was a weird impression that was more Jim Carrey meets Caesar Romero's wrapped in the make up that Heath Ledger sported in in Dark Knight.


That is what you saw as the goal of the gimmick. "To be unhinged" is not even a goal, but a part of what made up the gimmick. In real life or whatever, if one is unhinged, they just are. No, the goal of it was to be a take on (not an impression of) Heath Ledger's Joker, to draw in fans of the movie and make more money. (Emerald probably said it better a few posts ago). I do see a little Ceasar Romero in it, but you really have to know his Joker to see it. It isn't glaringly obvious, like having Sting laugh all the time like Romero did.

The impression was an over the top, childish, and cartoony failing on every level. It was just sad really.


It was a take on Ledger's Joker, not an actual impression. To get a handle on what an impression is, look up Rich Little. An impression is dead on and for the purpose of making people laugh. Sting's was neither dead on, nor done to make people laugh- not as much as an impressionist intends. Also, in one's take, they can put a little of their own spin in their characterization. I saw that with Jack Nicholson's Joker, which had elements of Romero's.

As soon as the situation called for him to do more than that everything fell apart and we got moments like this which were just cringeworthy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj3qmo6JbP0 But I guess you loved every bit of that like you said.


Did I actually say "loved" or "appreciated"? They are two totally different things. I appreciated every bit, but loved most of it. Yes, that clip was a bit cringeworthy, but not so terribly so. You can't be good all the time at something. Even the greatest music albums have at least one song that's not so good. Anyway, he eventually spoke as the Crow character and in the Wolfpac and it wasn't bad. The other TNA gimmicks in which he spoke weren't bad. And not nearly all of his Joker gimmick was bad. Let me ask you something. Which do you think was better, Jeff Hardy's Willow or Sting's Joker?

I do not know who these "humble performers" which you are referring to are, but whatever they believed has nothing to do with the fact that Sting's did a bad impression for several months that I felt embarrassed for him.


Sting may have had a bad take on Ledger's Joker in your opinion, but he didn't do an impression. Sting surely believed he was doing a take on it. This goes to show that you take my good points and let them roll off you like water off a duck's back (that analogy is from the legendary comedy team of Laurel and Hardy and meant to be a little humorous, so lay off it). Furthermore, I'm sure Sting wouldn't want your embarrassment.

How do you get the impression that I'm "blurring the lines between storyline and real life," when I referred to it as a storyline in the actual snippet you quoted?


Because you erroneously said, "If anything it could be argued that Sting's presence was part of what prevented TNA from reaching the next level." Especially that you said it after the line about Sting campaigning for Hulk Hogan like it was a real life thing and not a storyline.

Further, if you are agreeing that it was the low point of Sting's career then what are you even arguing here?


I'm arguing that his Joker character wasn't the low point of his career, as you said before. I'm arguing that what came after that in TNA was.

I mentioned it because it was an example of the fact that Sting had really lost more than a couple of steps at that point in his career but he was still wrestling for that paycheck.


How do you know whether or not he needed the money that much? We heard about Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan's troubles, but nothing about Sting's, except that he went through one divorce and second marriage, but no money troubles. He was wrestling for his fans. Don't you understand that? It's why the Rolling Stones are still performing. It's why Charles Sculz stuck with the Peanuts comic strip as long as he could.

Why are you always looking for people to coddle you?


Why are you being an idiot?

You were wrong about what you said and he reminded you. That is that.


I sort of mis-remembered the facts of long ago and that is that.

Then that begs the question of why you are talking about something you admittedly do not have any recollection of?


I had enough recollection of it- enough to call it WWA and remember that not many people saw it. I wasn't write an article on the period for a magazine or website. This is just an informal discussion. so noting begs anything except your desire to post on message boards begs for you to use your head, do better at getting all the facts before you pop off at someone and stop looking for a fight.

There are entire threads here serving as examples of you getting caught talking about something you know nothing about.


Only in your opinion because you didn't use your head, did terribly at getting all the facts before you popped off and were looking for a fight.

Perhaps the most famous was your lack of understanding of the relationship between ratings and advertisers.


I asked questions to learn things, which is a purpose for message boards. I an humble enough to admit what I don't know, while defending the facts when I do know things.

You are describing what others thought and expressing that as fact


I have described what others have said that I came to learn was fact.

when in reality you have no idea and are just talking out of your rear end and upset that you were caught doing it.


You wouldn't know reality on a message board if it slapped you in the face. Confrontation (and knowing when to confront)is definitely not your strong suit. You have just fooled yourself to believe it's a strong suit of yours. So for your own sake, please stick to talking facts about TNA and other shows. All you are to me is that annoying fly buzzing around my head that miraculously survives swat after swat.

You have difficulty understanding simple things, expressing yourself effectively, using words properly, you have a victim mentality, no job, no prospects, and live on government assistance. Considering those things, why would you think you have any ability to judge whether someone needs help when you obviously are unable to help yourself.


You have great difficulty deciding whether or not someone has difficulty understanding simple things, expressing yourself effectively, using words properly, you have a victim mentality, no job, no prospects, and live on government assistance. So of course you would also have great difficulty judging whether or not someone can judge whether someone needs help when they, in your flawed opinion, obviously are unable to help themselves. None of that is your strong suit, but you have fooled yourself into thinking it is. Others are distancing themselves from you in these confrontations with me, but not siding with me either, because you are a good poster when it comes to TNA matters and they don't want to risk losing you. And I'm not speaking for them- it's just so obviously true.

Sting is a performer and I would be commenting on his performance. If he or his family would read what I have written and they take issue with it or agree with it then they are more than welcome to post. But their feelings (positive or negative) are irrelevant to me.


Why, because you are so much better than they are? How could a human being not care about another human being's feelings? I guess we could go back in time and ask Hitler, Stalin, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, or ask ISIS today. But why be like them? What if you were a performer and you saw that someone said that you ruined the company that you performed for? What would you think, feel and say in reply?

Now this next quote, you never gave a reasonable counter to, so I'll just repeat it: "You never got a first one, but thank you for continuing to show your true colors." In response to that, you only showed them again. Congratulations.

They were hired to elevate the product


...based on what the company did with them.

and in many cases just phoned in their performances, took up a roster spot, and collected a paycheck.


Whatever doesn't do it for you is a phoned in performance in your opinion. That also goes for me and everyone else. I see people saying when they think a performance was over the top (like you did concerning Joker Sting) and others saying the performer phoned it in, and still others saying it was just right.

AJ Styles also took up a roster spot and collected a paycheck. So did Chris Sabin, Gail Kim, Awesome Kong, etc. Others would have liked to have their spots, but they were turned down. The Rolling Stones don't have a spot in a company like wrestlers, but people still go to their concerts to see them perform to this day, despite all the geezer jokes they get, despite the fact that the fans could be going to the concerts of younger acts or doing something completely different and despite the fact that the stones are preventing younger acts from performing there at the time and collecting pay. The venues do good in having them too.

The talent was high priced, but at that point in their career they weren't as talented or entertaining as Jay Lethal, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Mr. Anderson, or any of the countless wrestlers who took a back seat to so people in their late forties could have matches no one really wanted to see.


Same goes for the Rolling Stones. You can't tell me the Ric Flair vs Mick Foley hardcore match wasn't great or that people didn't want to see that. In a wrestling company, there is a place for all types of talent to do all types of things- and there should be. Jim Cornette was great onscreen in TNA. I hope he had offscreen input at the time as well and I wish they never stopped using it. Furthermore, it was never like there was no one but older talent. There was always lots of younger talent.

Your above response demonstrates a misunderstanding of the issue.


You above reponse only shows that whatever isn't on your wavelength is a misunderstanding of the issue to you.

Regardless of where it was on the card, Hulk Hogan vs Sting at Bound For Glory 2011 worked on no level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCINhc9cce0 You can't tell me that the writers/bookers wanted the match to go down that way and it was exactly what they hoped it would be.


I can't tell you anything about it and you can't tell me anything about it. We can only speculate on what seems to be.

I'm sorry, but is it really an argument to accuse me of believing "dirt sheet rumors"


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when you refer to them in your response? (i.e. having to deal with race-related setbacks and backstage politics.)


I referred to facts. If you told Booker to his face that he never had any race-related setbacks or dealt with backstage politics, he'd either be angry at you or laugh in your face.

You can't have it both ways.


...and I'm not.

No, but it does not change the fact that at some point during his TNA tenure that is what he became.


That is your opinion fueled by your resentment of him.

I meant to write thread, but I guess you are going to spend the next several posts trying to find vindication in that error.


Wow, I guess you really felt stung by my pointing out your errors in earlier threads. Too bad it did you no good as it should have.



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My lyrics had many cogent points, but I guess that style of point making doesn't register with you. I have no real purpose for insulting, but I did get off a few what could very well be considered zingers in there.

All your lyrics represented was your inability to carry on a conversation in any meaningful way. Only you would look at that and find some vindication.

Then I would have done pretty darn good, because Sting entertained and treated his fans, so he did not fail. You are considering how TNA failed with him, but apparently, you haven't been able to see that correctly.

Sting was brought in to bring more eyes to the product, to make the company more marketable, to sell merchandise, to get fans to buy more tickets to shows, and to generally increase revenue and market share for the company. He accomplished none of those during his tenure with the the company. Just because he showed up and performed in front of his fans (whether or not the fans enjoyed it) does not make his tenure with the company a success. By that standard, you could call Pacman Jones or Rampage Jackson's tenures with the company a success.

Anyway, I have no need of saving face at all- especially since this only started with me merely making a proper, humble request and attempting to get posters to realize that no legend or veteran failed TNA.

Honestly, you are sounding like someone who has not watched the product. There are many examples other than Sting of legends/veterans in wrestling who have failed the company. If you want examples we can start with Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, X-Pac, Macho Man, Chavo Guerrero Jr., Booker T, The Nasty Boys, Hulk Hogan, and Eric Bischoff. And those are the ones I can think of just off the top of my head. They all came to the company, collected a paycheck for as long as they could convince someone that they were contributing, and then they were gone after really bad tenures. That is the reality of the situation and when faced with reality you usually answer back with a poorly constructed analogy so don't disappoint:

TNA failed with them, in the same way that if you use an inappropriate sweetener in your baking, your finished product won't taste good. I've had a cookie sweetened with Sweet 'n Low. It's not recommended. The whole batch tastes off. Same goes for a wrestling company if any talent is misused (to sweeten it). Now I hope you can identify with a baking illustration.

As usual you are nothing if not predictable. Now your poorly constructed analogy aside, how did TNA fail a bunch of guys who were paid lot of money and could dictate terms to management and creative?

He realizes what I said. I used to post on his site's message board, when the site and the board were up and running- and I was even a global moderator. He was an administrator and would pop in on occasion to answer questions and such. That was therealsting.org- and you can enter that at archive.org's Wayback machine section and see for yourself.

I doubt that you were a moderator anywhere as you don't have the skill set, drive, or wherewithal to do that. Also may I add that it is convenient that the place you cite for proof no longer exists.

So I know how he thought about it. In fact, I know most of the other legends and veterans thought the same way about it. Not only is that one thing I got from Sting himself, concerning himself and others, but it's easy to figure out anyway.

Let me get this straight, when told that you failed as bad as Sting did in TNA and the only difference between you two is that he likely can recognize that and you can't, you respond by saying that you believe Sting can't recognize it either? Goodness you are a deluded individual.

In your opinion. Anyone can make anything they want out of anyone's legacy.

Let me ask you this, if you do not believe it tarnished his legacy then where would you group it among his previous work? Would you say it was better or worse than his work in the Jim Crockett Promotions/World Championship Wrestling or UWF?

That is what you saw as the goal of the gimmick. "To be unhinged" is not even a goal, but a part of what made up the gimmick. In real life or whatever, if one is unhinged, they just are.

Once again, this is another example of your inability to comprehend simple things. This gimmick was designed for Sting's character to be unhinged. That was the goal within the narrative that was being presented. Sting is a good in ring performer, but acting is not his string suit and he was put in a position where that was what was prominently on display. The result was the mess that we got.

No, the goal of it was to be a take on (not an impression of) Heath Ledger's Joker, to draw in fans of the movie and make more money. (Emerald probably said it better a few posts ago).

What you are describing is an impression, and a poor one at that. Your use of the term "take on" is a distinction without a difference.

I do see a little Ceasar Romero in it, but you really have to know his Joker to see it. It isn't glaringly obvious, like having Sting laugh all the time like Romero did.

You are functionally agreeing with me that he was doing an impression of the Joker. In fact, you even described it. Why are you even arguing this point if you agree with me?

It was a take on Ledger's Joker, not an actual impression.

Again, this is a distinction without a difference.

To get a handle on what an impression is, look up Rich Little. An impression is dead on and for the purpose of making people laugh.

This is a made up definition of what an impression is. The actual definition is, "An imitation of a person or thing, especially one done to entertain." (See https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/impression) You cannot conveniently make up words and definitions to words when you don't know them or when their actual definition does not say what you would like it to.

Sting's was neither dead on, nor done to make people laugh- not as much as an impressionist intends. Also, in one's take, they can put a little of their own spin in their characterization. I saw that with Jack Nicholson's Joker, which had elements of Romero's.

It was a bad impression that looked bad onscreen. I don't understand why you are attempting to make it seem like something more or less than what it was.

Did I actually say "loved" or "appreciated"? They are two totally different things. I appreciated every bit, but loved most of it. Yes, that clip was a bit cringeworthy, but not so terribly so. You can't be good all the time at something. Even the greatest music albums have at least one song that's not so good.

You used the word loved. This is exactly what you said: "I loved every bit of Joker Sting." You are backtracking at this point because you are realizing how bad the impression was and how much bad television actually was derived from that character.

Anyway, he eventually spoke as the Crow character and in the Wolfpac and it wasn't bad. The other TNA gimmicks in which he spoke weren't bad. And not nearly all of his Joker gimmick was bad.

Sting only knows how to deliver two types of promos. As long as he is delivering that one energetic or brooding promo he is fine. If the promo involves anything else we are going to be in for an awkward treat courtesy of Sting.

Let me ask you something. Which do you think was better, Jeff Hardy's Willow or Sting's Joker?

They were both horrible in their own ways and both produced some of the worst TNA segments ever.

Sting may have had a bad take on Ledger's Joker in your opinion, but he didn't do an impression.

As I have said before you are making a distinction without a difference. If you believe otherwise, then give me the definition of an impression and a "take on" (as well as cites for both definitions) and describe what the meaningful difference is between the two. On is a word and the other is a a term but both are functionally synonyms and the way you are using them seems to illustrate that you do not understand what one or both of them mean.

Sting surely believed he was doing a take on it. This goes to show that you take my good points and let them roll off you like water off a duck's back (that analogy is from the legendary comedy team of Laurel and Hardy and meant to be a little humorous, so lay off it). Furthermore, I'm sure Sting wouldn't want your embarrassment.

Sting's subjective opinion of his own performance is not relevant as the end product speaks for itself. Your arguments on this all fail because they boil down to an appeal to authority. Furthermore, if Sting didn't want my embarrassment then perhaps he would not have turned in a performance that warrants embarrassment from the viewer. As for your usage of the analogy that you attributed to Laurel and Hardy, I'll leave you to figure out why it does not work in this context.

Because you erroneously said, "If anything it could be argued that Sting's presence was part of what prevented TNA from reaching the next level." Especially that you said it after the line about Sting campaigning for Hulk Hogan like it was a real life thing and not a storyline.

I didn't erroneously say that, it was a point that I meant to make and I stand by. It was part of several different points I made in one paragraph that addressed your belief that, "Sting never failed. He was always entertaining." The particular sentence you quoted illustrated one of the levels he failed on. The other sentence that you were referring to was addressing a situation where he was not entertaining. The fact that you have trouble following that just illustrates your difficulty understanding simple things.

I'm arguing that his Joker character wasn't the low point of his career, as you said before. I'm arguing that what came after that in TNA was.

That is a debatable point because what came after his Joker gimmick in TNA was bad as well, but at least it didn't put his lack of acting ability front and center like the Joker impression did.

How do you know whether or not he needed the money that much? We heard about Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan's troubles, but nothing about Sting's, except that he went through one divorce and second marriage, but no money troubles.

Whether he had money troubles is not relevant. What is relevant is that he commanded a hefty salary for not much return to the company.

He was wrestling for his fans. Don't you understand that?

If he was really wrestling for his fans, he would have given them a performance that they wanted and went to the WWE. That is what his fans wanted and not a long and protracted run in TNA where he wasted away.

It's why the Rolling Stones are still performing.

They are doing it for the money. Here is a website that describes the economics behind it: http://www.businessinsider.com/why-rolling-stones-keep-touring-2013-7. Here is another complaining about ticket prices to their shows apparently because it's not all about the fans: http://www.mercurynews.com/2013/04/10/rolling-stones-tickets-high-prices-big-profits-disgruntled-fans/

It's why Charles Sculz stuck with the Peanuts comic strip as long as he could.

Don't know enough about the situation to comment but is there any reason to believe it would be any more accurate than any of your previous claims?

Why are you being an idiot?

I am just point out that you have a desire to have others coddle you and you complain when they do not. I don't know if it is because this is the way you are used to being treated by your family, but rest assured that here you are going to be treated as a man despite the fact that being treated that way makes you uncomfortable and confused.

I sort of mis-remembered the facts of long ago and that is that.

No you were completely wrong and disliked when the fact was pointed out to you.

I had enough recollection of it- enough to call it WWA and remember that not many people saw it. I wasn't write an article on the period for a magazine or website. This is just an informal discussion. so noting begs anything except your desire to post on message boards begs for you to use your head, do better at getting all the facts before you pop off at someone and stop looking for a fight.

I had the facts on the situation and that is why I corrected you. You were wrong, instead of trying to minimize your error, just accept it and move on.

Only in your opinion because you didn't use your head, did terribly at getting all the facts before you popped off and were looking for a fight.

Anyone who wants to can read the thread objectively and decide for themselves. But the simple fact is that I have dominated you in every thread and post for post and you have been thusfar unable to deal with that fact.

I asked questions to learn things, which is a purpose for message boards. I an humble enough to admit what I don't know, while defending the facts when I do know things.

But the simple fact is that you don't learn a lot as you usually double down on your errors and misunderstandings and/or backtrack when you realize you have been proved wrong. As far as being humble enough to admit what you do not know, if that were true you wouldn't be talking about imaginary pandemics to hide the fact that you don't understand simple things or claiming that you have superpowers like Professor X and Ghost Rider.

I have described what others have said that I came to learn was fact.

What you came to learn as fact? You regularly make things up because you do not have any idea what you are talking about and want desperately to be part of the conversation. It is apparent to all of us and I do not understand why it is that you claim otherwise.

You wouldn't know reality on a message board if it slapped you in the face.

I slap you in the face with it all the time.

Confrontation (and knowing when to confront)is definitely not your strong suit. You have just fooled yourself to believe it's a strong suit of yours. So for your own sake, please stick to talking facts about TNA and other shows. All you are to me is that annoying fly buzzing around my head that miraculously survives swat after swat.

I have dominated you in every thread we have been involved in. I have proven you to be a liar and a teller of tall tales. The only reason I keep on with this is because I find my interactions with you humorous and enjoy putting you in your place.

You have great difficulty deciding whether or not someone has difficulty understanding simple things, expressing yourself effectively, using words properly, you have a victim mentality, no job, no prospects, and live on government assistance. So of course you would also have great difficulty judging whether or not someone can judge whether someone needs help when they, in your flawed opinion, obviously are unable to help themselves. None of that is your strong suit, but you have fooled yourself into thinking it is.

It has been demonstrated in the past that you have a pronounced difficulty understanding simple things, expressing yourself effectively, using words properly, you have a victim mentality, no job, no prospects, and live on government assistance. None of that is disputed and all of it has been confirmed by you. You can deny it all you want, but its really difficult to do so when you do a great job of giving us contemporaneous examples we can refer to.

Others are distancing themselves from you in these confrontations with me, but not siding with me either, because you are a good poster when it comes to TNA matters and they don't want to risk losing you. And I'm not speaking for them- it's just so obviously true.

Really? You see when you say things like, "Others are distancing themselves from you..." it does make it seem like you are trying to speak for other people.

Why, because you are so much better than they are? How could a human being not care about another human being's feelings?

No because I am a consumer commenting on the quality of a product. If they do not want to read commentary on a topic then I suggest they stay off the internet.

I guess we could go back in time and ask Hitler, Stalin, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, or ask ISIS today.

I was wondering how long it would take you to confirm Godwin's law (this time), and it looks like I just got my answer.

What if you were a performer and you saw that someone said that you ruined the company that you performed for? What would you think, feel and say in reply?

Honestly, I would not care. But I would be willing to assess feedback on a product to gauge trends and determine where interest in the product lied.

Now this next quote, you never gave a reasonable counter to, so I'll just repeat it: "You never got a first one, but thank you for continuing to show your true colors." In response to that, you only showed them again. Congratulations.

I did respond. In fact I cited an entire thread that served as a testament to your difficulty understanding simple things as well as your lies and tall tales of you having super powers and explaining away your inability to use words properly as an imaginary global pandemic. I will cite the thread again in case you want to relive go back through them and see how thoroughly you were dominated: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421463/board/flat/256965214?p=1

...based on what the company did with them.

That argument really flies out the window when the people you are talking about are in a position to dictate terms to management and creative. If you were talking about Jay Lethal or Christopher Daniels you would have a point, but with Nash, Hall, Sting, etc. this does not fly.

Whatever doesn't do it for you is a phoned in performance in your opinion. That also goes for me and everyone else. I see people saying when they think a performance was over the top (like you did concerning Joker Sting) and others saying the performer phoned it in, and still others saying it was just right.

Is that your definition of a phoned in performance? Mine is just showing up and going through the motions like Rob Van Dam, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, and Sting did.

AJ Styles also took up a roster spot and collected a paycheck. So did Chris Sabin, Gail Kim, Awesome Kong, etc. Others would have liked to have their spots, but they were turned down.

Yes but the difference is that they didn't phone in their performances. In fact when considering what they were paid they brought far more value to the company than any of the high priced talent that I mentioned did. I will say that there were two exceptions which were Kurt Angle and Christian. Both were high priced and both brought value to the company.

The Rolling Stones don't have a spot in a company like wrestlers, but people still go to their concerts to see them perform to this day, despite all the geezer jokes they get, despite the fact that the fans could be going to the concerts of younger acts or doing something completely different and despite the fact that the stones are preventing younger acts from performing there at the time and collecting pay. The venues do good in having them too.

The Rolling Stones example is too dissimilar to be compared to TNA. So much so that I'm not sure why you thought it was a good idea to even bring it up.

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Same goes for the Rolling Stones.

What did you mean by this? Same what goes for the Rolling Stones? This is another example of your inability to express yourself effectively.

You can't tell me the Ric Flair vs Mick Foley hardcore match wasn't great or that people didn't want to see that.

Ric Flair and Mick Foley to my understanding never had a Hardcore match in TNA. They did have a Last Man Standing match on the October 7, 2010 edition of Impact and the unfortunate part about it was that at the time the cornerstone of the promotion was a feud between a 60 year old man and a 45 year old who were way past their prime and who took up spots from guys in their prime. When the focal point of your promotoion is nostalgia pops then you need to reanalyze what exactly it is these guys bring to the table.

In a wrestling company, there is a place for all types of talent to do all types of things- and there should be.

By and large this is not something I disagree with, but insofar as you are making this point to buttress your current argument I disagree with it.

Jim Cornette was great onscreen in TNA. I hope he had offscreen input at the time as well and I wish they never stopped using it.

No disagreement there as I am a big fan of Cornette.

Furthermore, it was never like there was no one but older talent. There was always lots of younger talent.

The company was centered around over 40 talent at the time and the younger talent was used as either enhancement for the older talent, surrogates in feuds between the older talent, or curtain jerkers. When I think of all the talent that TNA had and for them to push guys like Nash and Sting over them instead of their homegrown talent it makes me sad.

You above reponse only shows that whatever isn't on your wavelength is a misunderstanding of the issue to you.

You misunderstood the issue and then after I noted your misunderstanding you state that it wasn't on my wavelength and that is why I called it a misunderstanding? You really have an argument with the consistency of rice pudding which you stubbornly follow through to the end in the face of all.

I can't tell you anything about it and you can't tell me anything about it. We can only speculate on what seems to be.

I can tell you that what we saw was not the planned result.

100%

How is that an argument? If anything its an ad hominem.

I referred to facts. If you told Booker to his face that he never had any race-related setbacks or dealt with backstage politics, he'd either be angry at you or laugh in your face.

You referred to rumors. You really are odd by accusing me of believing dirt sheet rumors and then citing them yourself.

...and I'm not.

But you're trying to.

That is your opinion fueled by your resentment of him.

No, its just a fact that he became an old guy trying to hold onto his spot. That is really the long and the short of it.

Wow, I guess you really felt stung by my pointing out your errors in earlier threads. Too bad it did you no good as it should have.

No, I am just wise to the games you play and I know that when you are cornered you have a habit of latching onto spelling errors and finding vindication in them. You are nothing if not predictable and I expect next you will be claiming you are being attacked. So let me not get in your way of that and post on scadeetin, post on!

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You are nothing if not predictable and I expect next you will be claiming you are being attacked.



He already did, see post above where he accuses me of starting trouble.

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Holy crap are you ever being a $hit-stirring idiot. What's the matter, idiot? Does someone keep crapping in your food or something that makes you want to pick someone out on a message board and harass them for everything they say?




Exactly, you either agree with these clowns or they will harass and hound you. They have some sort of alliance you mess with one then you have a whole crew ready to chew you out. There is no opinion here. This board is infested with these marks. In order to post peacefully here you must agree with all their bs opinions even if they are wrong. They bully me because I've made their fearless leader tap out more than once. Instead of being honorable posters and admit that I've been right about TNA and everything else I've said they verbally bash and insult me.

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Once again,you're spouting out stuff that isn't true. You're just upset because no one believes you when you try to claim to be the smartest wrestling fan ever. Differing opinions are welcome here,jackass. You know that. Again,you're just mad because you expect to be "Mr. Popular" on this board. The only reason you come here is to promote yourself. You never seriously participate in any discussions. When you post on any threads,other than your own,you just quick type out some jibberish hoping that someone will think it's the greatest thing ever spoken. When you do show up,all you really intend to do is boost your own threads and keep them on top. Just like you did just now. You're an idiot and everyone on IMDB knows it. That's why people make fun of you. It has nothing to do with whether you agree or disagree on anything. No one runs this board except the IMDb administrators,dumbduck. But you seem to think this board should be all yours to control. That's why you return every now & then to post another stupid a$$ "Ask the Duck" thread where you want to have a board within a board. That thread has gotten ignored everytime you've posted it and it pisses you off. The only ones that did post on them were the little children you bribed to keep bumping them up for you every damn day. You're just mad because just like in your personal life,not even strangers on the internet want anything to do with you.

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How do you expect me to join in on serious discussions when I get bombarded with childish insults? I have proven my point about various topics here but you guys don't care because it is your way or the highway.


I even said I worked for the company but instead get showered with accusations that I am lying. Yet some other random bozo named Dram said he worked for the company to and you guys didn't him *beep*

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You haven't proven anything because you just repeat the same stuff that everyone else has been saying for months and maybe even the last couple of years. You post some random comment and act like you're the first one to ever point it out. And again you dumb fool. No one,NOT ONE,is telling anyone to agree or leave. That's bull and you damn well know it. No one is bombing you with insults either. They just flat out ignore your a$$ because you give them NOTHING to go on. All they see is just another random comment from a guy who is trying so hard to sound intelligent. But instead he sounds like a 10 year old who wants so badly to hang with the big boys. Yes,that is exactly how you come across to others on this board. Plus some may remember those threads you did that were done as shrines to yourself. No one is going to bother talking to a guy that is that damned self centered and arrogant.

You are lying about working for TNA and WWE because all you could give was some random job duties,that could exist anywhere,to a nameless position. Anyone could just post something like that. And whatever other guy your talking about doesn't ring any bells with me. Unless someone else can back you up on that one,I'll call that another one of your lies.

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Duck is desperate for attention, trying to cling himself into scatty trolls post.

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You see!! You guys can't be civil on this board once again I get the insults. I even once attempted to call a truce but you guy's rejected it. I am trying to make peace but you guys prefer these pointless rivalries. Fine I don't think TNA is the greatest sorry for being right about TNA and other arguments we've had in the past. Sorry if I offended or drove Junox away, it wasn't my intent. All I wanted was to have a serious discussion about TNA. I guess I have to be in compliance and agree with everything you guys say on this board or I will continue to get bullied and abused. Is that what you guys want?

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Go away Duck the troll...

Half of the things you type seems like a insanity. Never makes sense...

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Please stop!! All I want is peace is that too much to ask for? You accuse me of insanity but look at all the childish insults you are posting.

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You'll post anything just to keep your threads at the top,won't you? Even trying to interject yourself into an argument that has absolutely nothing to do with you or the subject of this post. But you don't care as long as it's your thread being boosted. Someone could post the entire lineup of emoji's that IMDb provides and you'd still be beaming with pride because someone is keeping your name above everyone else's.

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Duck is desperate for attention. This discussion had nothing to do with him and he somehow attempted to cling on to Scadeetin.

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Instead of using his cloned accounts to claim as friends for his army,he's trying to seek out real life people to help him take over the board.

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LOL except nobody is buying it. Scadeetin is the only one that might, because he hates me and Harlem so much.


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You guys know I am not the one with multiple accounts but enough of that lets begin our new start towards friendship, peace, and harmony. Lets collaborate on a new thread. A discussion or topic that will blow peoples minds away or leave them breathless. What do you say?

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Lets collaborate on a new thread. A discussion or topic that will blow peoples minds away or leave them breathless. What do you say?


I don't know think so, slick. How about you stop posting dumb things and acting as if you are the only one who knows TNA sucks.

I think that works, after all the crap you have done...we don't want to do your plan.


And you were Bill G and Da man DD. Yes?

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This is a TNA board for discussions about that company,it's stars,staff and everything else that is involved with it. That's all we will discuss here,dorky duck. We're not going to start any version of your "AtD" thread where every stupid topic that has nothing to do with TNA or even wrestling is posted. All you want is a thread with your name on it that will consistently get boosted to the top on a daily basis. And we are also not conversing with anymore morons like you. Forget it. Go post your idiotic threads somewhere else and you and your alternate accounts can mingle there.

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It doesn't have to be an Ask the Duck thread, let's post something we both will like. What do you say? We have many topics to cover, so you can even start the thread. I don't want you to think it is about me. Start it and I will continue to post on it. I want you to get all the credit. What do you think?

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NO! Go away! Seriously. You need counseling to deal with your loss of Junox. Go get help dude. You're not getting it here. Leave me alone! I mean it. Go away.

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Blah Blah Blah go away please you sound like Junox when he is losing a debate. I will continue to create threads on this board and I don't care if you keep trying to get them deleted or if you PM all the posters here to attack me. I love wrestling and TNA and even though it is an inferior brand I will always support it.



I will continue to call your butt buddy Junox out till he comes out of the shadows or reveal his other accounts. And it will continue to boil your blood that I mention his name don't worry we all know the truth.


In a few day I will create a thread that will change everything. So get your boys ready to start crying wah wah go away. I tried to make peace with you but all you want is fighting then live with it.


Word Life!!

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Blah Blah Blah go away please you sound like Junox when he is losing a debate. I will continue to create threads on this board and I don't care if you keep trying to get them deleted or if you PM all the posters here to attack me. I love wrestling and TNA and even though it is an inferior brand I will always support it.


I sound like Junox? More proof that you want me to be him. You sick little child. When have your threads deleted? All of the threads you have posted so far lasted until IMDb erased them several months later. I've told you over and over that neither I or anyone else is plotting against you. But that seems to be what you want to believe because no one is taking you seriously and you can't deal with it. So you make up some other excuse to explain your failure to make this board your personal kingdom.

I will continue to call your butt buddy Junox out till he comes out of the shadows or reveal his other accounts. And it will continue to boil your blood that I mention his name don't worry we all know the truth.


You just refuse to believe that I am not your beloved Junox or that I have no connection to him whatsoever. But you go ahead and keep cqlling for him,buddy. It's all a waste of time here. I told you already to get busy on the internet if you wqant to find him. Returning here and harrasing me is getting you nowhere. Your man-crush is obviously never coming back. Just accept it and move on.

And whose this "we" that you speak of? Referring to your sock accounts again,duck? Or should I call you "Da Man" or Bill G.?

In a few day I will create a thread that will change everything. So get your boys ready to start crying wah wah go away. I tried to make peace with you but all you want is fighting then live with it.



You mean trhat you're going to post another juvinilistic piece of garbage that will get ignored like the rest of your crap? Good. Can't wait.

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Countdown 3

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Yippee! Your doing your famous countdown to another pointless garbage thread. Let me guess what it'll be. Your're going to do another self serving thread dedicated to your narcissistic self,right? Another thread that will be ignored and left to drift off the board like your other dedications to your bloated ego.Dumbass.

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Countdown 2

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Countdown 1

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LOL....loser.

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LOL says the one posting on the same board.

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And?


What does that have to do with you acting desperate for attention?

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Oh please you take this dead board very serious and you call me the loser. Creating multiple accounts just to have those same accounts agree with your nonsense again loser. Getting defensive every time I mention your precious Junox on how he got whooped by me....LOOOOOOOSSSSSEERRRRRRRR!!!!


15th straight post with you obsessing over Junox. Time for you to get a life and move on.

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He accuses us of getting upset over the mention of his old flame but yet,he's the one who keeps bringing the guy up. I'm trying to avoid the subject altogether. But duck seems to want to keep talking about him. He's sick in the head. He won't move on because he insists on making me his Junox. He's determined to make me admit that I'm someone I'm not. What a sick bastard.

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He can't stop bringing up Junox. Its like he really misses the dude. Don't worry lil Ducky, Junox will be in your bedroom and ready to please ya.


Ducky getting on his knees and submitting to ole Junox. Very submissive.

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Oh please you take this dead board very serious and you call me the loser. Creating multiple accounts just to have those same accounts agree with your nonsense again loser. Getting defensive every time I mention your precious Junox on how he got whooped by me....LOOOOOOOSSSSSEERRRRRRRR!!!!


This coming from the guy who only comes here to make sure his threads stay on top of the board. Sorry,duck. The loser here is YOU!

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You treat me like garbage.

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Just the way it should be...


Your actions on this board in the past years have shown that you are indeed garbage.

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Duck is nothing but a troll that keeps on proving that point everytime he shows up. He sits there and claims he wants to have discussions about everything that concerns TNA but never actually participates in a discussion. All he does is come back to bump his deadass threads so he can pretend that people are actually discussing things on his thread and not the other ones. Like I keep saying,he's here for self promotion or self gratification. Call it what you want. But he wants all of the attention on himself. Also,the fact that he keeps believing his lost love will return to this board someday just proves how sad and hopeless his life is. I'll keep saying this until he finally gives up and leaves this site forever. He desperately needs a shrink to help him with his yearning for Junox.

Garbage indeed.

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