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i dont get it.........


i thought this movie was entertaining for a tv flick, but who agrees that that nuclear bomb side-plot was the dumbest, most pointless thing, maybe ever. i thought it was absolutely ridiculous.

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Actually, I thought that mixing Attilla with Greek mythology as if they were one and the same was absolutely ridiculous in and of itself. They could have said Alexander the Great, Julius Cesar, or just about ANYBODY else with either Greek or Roman roots, and not Mongol. Mixing these is like haveing the Japanese go to Africa and teach them about fireworks in the B.C. era.

*I have nothing against the Mongol people.

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ACTUALLY..... the Huns were Very much a part of the Roman History and helped bring down the roman empire... WAAAAYYYYYY after the Greeks...idiot....
And Attilla was ALL ABOUT conquering rome... soo yes it makes sense he could be infused into ROMAN not GREEK mythology...
You should check your facts before bashing something...
I really believe you are mixing up Genghis Khan with attilla the HUN...

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Yeah - Attila was one of the big enemies of the Romans - he was defeated by them at the Battle of Chalons. In fact, he pretty much grew up in Rome, as a child hostage in the court of the Emperor Honorius.

More significantly, the sword of Mars story is an ancient one, found in "De origine actibusque Getarum" dating to 551 AD:

"The historian Priscus says it was discovered under the following circumstances: 'When a certain shepherd beheld one heifer of his flock limping and could find no cause for this wound, he anxiously followed the trail of blood and at length came to a sword it had unwittingly trampled while nibbling the grass. He dug it up and took it straight to Attila. He rejoiced at this gift and, being ambitious, thought he had been appointed ruler of the whole world, and that through the sword of Mars supremacy in all wars was assured to him.' "

BUT - just remember one crucial fact: this wasn't a history movie. This was a low-budget creature feature filmed for under $2 million in Bulgaria. The story was an excuse to have a cgi-monster chomp people.

Note: there's not really any such thing as "Roman mythology" - they just took the Greek myths, and translated them into Latin. There are a few Roman folktales, but that's more Roman historical fiction that mythology.

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Actually, the Romans had a very full blooded mythology of their own, but they were quite willing to adopt foreign religious ideas into it. Something like Episcopalians in America these days. You might think of it as parallel to American cuisine: cooking in America was mostly rustic and ad hoc, but they looked the the French for a more "elevated" style of food preparation. The result is that quite a bit of American cooking styles is French in origin. Likewise, the Roman mythology reflected a rustic and practical lifestyle, but they tended to see the Greeks as more thoughtful and refined, and began to identify their native gods with similar, but not identical, Greek gods. This process is well known from literature, but what is not so well known is that the Romans later, with the same mentality, began to adopt Egyptian gods on the one hand, and Persian gods on the other. These did not stimulate a great deal of literature, and so are not so well known. This same syncretic tendency later allowed the adoption of Christianity as a unifying state religion. I suspect that your definition of "mythology" is limited to what the British Victorians wrote on the subject, which your opinion seems to directly reflect.


"Na vkus i tsvyet, tovarishcha nyet."

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Cerberus is a three-headed dog in Greek mythology. Also Cerberus wouldn't have a snake tail, that would be a chimera. Seems like this movie cannot even get mythology right.

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I thought the Chinese started the fireworks thing??? Maybe I'm just confused, or maybe it's just you...

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i thought this movie was entertaining for a tv flick, but who agrees that that nuclear bomb side-plot was the dumbest, most pointless thing, maybe ever. i thought it was absolutely ridiculous.


I just don't get what is dumb about it. It was the plan of a character in the film. Do you just mean that you thought that character was dumb, or had a dumb plan? The character didn't seem dumb, but maybe a bit megalomaniacal, as would be the case with someone with a plan like that. The plan would probably backfire, but we weren't exactly given the details, and we can't exactly predict what will happen.

As for the other post about combining Cerberus with Attila the Hun, aside from the points already made by others stating that maybe the objector is a bit less knowledgeable than the writers, the fact remains that films like this take place in a fictional world, even if they reference the actual world. There's not a problem with the film if they change facts about the actual world--in fact, the film must do this if it is to be fiction! The problem in that case lies with a viewer who doesn't understand the nature of fictions.


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This is not correct. Unless you are writing "high fantasy" in a completely self-contained world, that has no referents in the actual, tangible world, then the real-world referents in the fictional story must be accurate. Or if they are not, then the writer must come up with a good reason why they are not. This is absolute basic discipline in writing fiction, and this is what distinguishes meaningful fiction from hack work. Charles Dickens wrote "fiction", in the sense that there is no actual person named Ebenezer Scrooge or David Copperfield, but his descriptions of social conditions of the time are absolutely accurate. My objection to this movie is that it seems to portray Kerberos as the guardian of a Western Christian version of Hell, with fire, lava, dismemberment and everything except perhaps sinners being placed head downward in pools of excrement, and the blue-colored Satan frozen in ice. This is quite unlike what Kerberos actually was in his own mythology, where he was a guardian of Hades (the underworld of darkeness, disembodiment, and powerlessness) who prevented the dead from returning, and prevented the living from entering. There is no basis for the idea that Kerberos bites heads off people if they tresspass, he is merely a Dweller On The Threshold which may be passed by those who know how. If the writers wanted to portray a Western-type "hellish" being, there are plenty of such creatures in their own mythology, but evidently they were too lazy to do the research.

"Na vkus i tsvyet, tovarishcha nyet."

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