Oscar Nomination ?


>>Private<< has been selected (winning over Manuale d'amore and La Bestia nel cuore) to represent Italy for the Oscar Nominations (the five foreign films).

Do you think Private can get the nomination ?

I think so. The quality is very high (Costanzo is a beginner) and the Peace message is universal, in the Middle East, like everywhere.

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Unfortunately, "Private" won't get an Oscar nomination. The Oscar committee disqualified the film for not being in Italian. There is a (stupid) rule that says that every film must be in a language which is spoken in the submitting country. If it had been about Arabic-speaking immigrants in Italy, it probably would have gotten through.

The Academy has asked Italy to submit another film (probably Love Manual or Beast of the Heart).

Anyway, it's really a shame. If Italy considers this to be their best movie, the Academy should take them at their word that it is an Italian film. Hopefully they will reconsider, although they DID NOT when "Maria, Full of Grace" and "The Warrior" were disqualified.

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Yes, that's true. I've read this too.
I know there's nothing of Italy, crew members apart. The disqualification is hard to eat, but we could get over it with another Oscar worth film.

But which one ? "Manuale d'amore" (Love's manual) is too frivolous (it's a good film though), and hope in a shock decision like for "Shakespeare in love" is for fools.
"La bestia nel cuore" (The beast in the heart) has the right elements to get a nomination, but U.S.A. critics unjustly bashed it (they prefer mafia or criminal stories; Italy can't make a film without talking about bandits ! they seem to say).

I'd suggest: "La spettatrice" (the spectator), "Le conseguenze dell'amore" (the consequences of love), "La meglio gioventù" (the best of youth), yes it's possible! o "romanzo criminale" (criminal novel).

And for you ?

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The rule about the language is unbelieveble. And if someone decide to make a mute movie, what should he do? Or better, if someone want to use a dialect, or a rare language or someone in the north of Italy want to use french or german because they speak that language there, What to do? This rule is against the expression's freedom, theese are just some examples but could be more. If "passion" of christ was from Israel, could Israel candidate it??


"Le conseguenze dell'amore" cannot be chosen, because it went to italian theater in a date avialable for the previous year (I knew just for one week) or something like that, and last year someone choose "le chiavi di casa". For the other two movies, you know they are older then the first so they canot be nominated as well. "Romanzo Criminale" can be chose next year I think. (nablaquadro, did you know about year? or we will present sciuscià or some fellini's movies!!!)

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I've read several times in imdb forum that for Oscars could be nominated even films released more than a year before with some restrictions that I ignore.

La meglio gioventù made a strange path, you'll remember; maybe, technically, it's possible; but it'll never get the nomination (I fell it).

I didn't know that Le conseguenze dell'amore lost the nomination for a stupid case like that !! Oh my God, with that beautiful film we'd won Oscar easily !!
(americans, the little who saw it, gone crazy of it !!! >>> go to Rottentomatoes.com )


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For the 2007 Oscars, films can be in a language other than the country that produces it. So "Private" would have been eligible had it been made a year later.

As would Haneke's "Cache", from Austria but in French, another film disallowed, sadly.

Not that many films will stand a chance against Almodóvar's "Volver" next year, which has to be hot favourite to win, even before all the other candidates are announced.

This means that "Passion of the Christ", according to the new rules, would have been eligible to represent the USA as a foreign language movie.

It's a tough one really: I like the rule in one way, as it means that films like "Cache" and "Private" would become eligible. But in another way, it means that you could end up with five films all in the same language, representing different countries. Not that that's likely, but still. It is also a bad move for the countries' culture... akin to when they allowed a free-language rule in the Eurovision Song Contest... which was won this year by Finland, who sang in English, last year by Greece who sang in English, before then Ukraine in English, Turkey in English, Latvia in English... etc. Will we end up seeing loads of Romanian, Latvian and Botswanan films all in eg French? Who knows... we may do. I'd much rather see films in their native languages.

"Tsotsi" won this year, an excellent film in Xhosa, Zulu and Afrikaans. A wonderful film.

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This film MUST be given a push for the oscar !

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the film really should be at least be nominated
BUT, lets get real, anyone could really believe that the big interests in middle east would let the world think about the notion that terrorism could have valid basis, like defend from oppression?
is interesting: how the english crown could have seen Washington? was he a terrorist too? Hidalgo in "New Spain" was a terrorist? i know, difficult questions
i would really love to see this movie in the mass market, but i have the feeling that im dreaming
ps if this point of view offend someone, i apologize in advance, it is no my intention

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This is not a bad movie, but is a bit poor.

I think PARADISE NOW, is a more interesting movie about a similar place.

Oscar from Rosario-Argentina

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The academy contradicts itself year after year.

"Private" was refused it because it wasn't performed in italian, but one year later "Water", and Indian film spoken in Hindi directed by an Indian woman (Deepa Mehta), Shot in Sri-Lanka for political reasons, with an entire cast and crew from India... represented Canada! what's the difference?

Actually the italians have a bigger input in "Private" than the canadians in "Water" (they were only the producers, and not even all of them).

I don't get the Academy and its ridiculous criteria that seems changes every year!

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