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Is there anyone else whos opinion of the Amish was changed by this story


Boy, i just finished watching the movie and i loved it!
It wasn't exactly the quality of the movie (although i liked it), but the story itself and katie's character that affected me. I am a lesbian, interracial (hispanic and middle eastern), teenage girl who lives in a very liberal state. for a long time, i was very judgemental of the Amish. I am Protestant, but more spiritual than religious. I have always believed in God, but had resentment for organized religion, which i thought, while providing a great support system, can cause faith to turn into prejiduce (sorry, i know i spelt it wrong). I was completely puzzled by the Amish and thought they were limiting their potential with their lifestyle, and looked to me like a group of people who were extremely determined to avoid change. Also, the fact that i have heard of cases of rape, abuse, and molestation in their community that are covered up by their lifestyle didn't help my opinion.
After watching this movie, i guess i noticed the extent of my ignorance and other's as well. me judging their lifestyle is no different than some homophobe judging my lifestyle. I also saw how the bishop did allow some necessary change (the inverter) and was very accepting of elli regardless of how she lived her life. in this day and age, it's hard for anyone to remain neutral on anything, and a challenge not to become a radical in their own way. I myself am struggling to be understanding of other cultures, even the ones who have made it perfectly clear that i, along with several other people, are not welcome. The Amish, i imagine, hold the same prejiduce against others as those on the news everyday using the Bible as a weapon. But they are taught not to demonstrate those prejiduces in ways that are harmful to others. i guess i admire how loyal they are to their faith and how they handle it. I'm not saying that it does not have some dangerous flaws (i.e. casting your children out if they choose to live differently), but i guess i have a new perspective on it now.

What are other's perspectives on it and how were they affected by this story?

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The Amish are easy to misunderstand if your view is limited to this film and Witness. When dairies were required to refrigerate milk, some Amish dairy farmers quit supplying milk to commercial processors. Others were permitted generators, a few were allowed to connect dairy barns, but not homes, to electric utility lines.

As more Amish have adopted non-farm occupations, the rules have often adapted to allow electricity and even telephones in Amish businesses. They don't drive, but some own trucks with non-Amish employees to drive them. Amish generally run labor intensive occupations like cabinetry, carpentry and construction.

I'm not sure what you mean about "casting your children out if they choose to live differently." The Amish do not accept children into their faith, only adults. They expect their young people - late teens and early twenties - to taste a bit of the world around them. This period of rebellion may only extend to some worldly clothes, smoking, drinking, etc.; but there was an Amish cocaine distribution ring in SE Pennsylvania a few years ago that really shocked their community and their neighbors. After this period, some choose to leave, most make the commitment to join the church. Like many denominations, a member who chooses not to live according to their teachings can be expelled. It's not like they're leaving inconvenient children by the roadside like a sack of unwanted kittens.

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Even before I read this book and watched this movie, I was very intrigued by the idea of the Amish; they almost seemed eerie to me. I almost thought of them like you'd think of the Loch Ness Monster or Bigfoot, like they were an interesting phenomenon that I couldn't quite believe actually existed. This book/movie has not only satisfied my curiosity, but helped me see them as real people. I'm a Latter-Day Saint, and I found many of their values as portrayed in Plain Truth to be in harmony with my own. As for casting out their own family members if they transgress as Aaron did, the story made it clear that this is not necessarily endorsed by the Amish church. Aaron was meant to be portrayed as the extremist character who took his beliefs too far, while the bishop himself was willing to make exceptions for the greater good.

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If you are interested in the Amish I recommend you watch "The Devil's Playground", it is a documentary. Like any documentaries it has been edited to make a point etc. but is still fairly interesting. It is only about rumspringa and not the life as a whole.

Personally I don't really like any religion, but think the whole "join our religion or you are shunned" and lack of education past 8th grade is borderline child abuse. I seem to remember I expounded on this more on a thread on the other board. Basically, even though they give them that adolescent time to try other things, they are uneducated and unsupported and basically have no chance for a life outside, so it's not really a fair choice and it's a particularly insiduous way of keeping people indoctrinated.

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The Amish have such large families that by the law of averages, they have some children who leave and never are baptized. A sibling or a friend who does not want to join the church will find the way to a member who has "gone English" and live with them. If they want to finish high school, they can take GED classes.

In all likelihood Jacob "went English" without ever being baptized. The Amish don't baptize children because they believe only an adult can make a lifetime commitment like joining the church. The Amish are usually in their twenties by the time they're baptized.

Unlike Aaron, true Amish men and women would not shun Jacob if he was never baptized. They shun only members who are baptized and then apostatize.

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