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Smart people can dislike this movie.


Let's set aside the "free-love" discussion of how anybody can love or hate any movie and that there are no rules in art, man, and that we should just let it be...

Having said that - I'm always perplexed and amused that when someone doesn't like an "art house" movie (even one with an all-star cast, such as this one - making it a contradiction of sorts), they are often met with an insult to their intelligence.

e.g., "Oh, you just didn't get the beauty and sophistication in this movie." "Go back to your Will Ferrell movies and comic books."

That's just sad. I think that this movie, as one example, tried desperately to be beautiful and sophisticated, but instead felt like it tried entirely too hard. I, and I assume so many others, understood the statements (the cliche, stereotypical statements) that were made about womankind. We saw the pain, the sadness. We were, in fact, beaten over the head with it. With that, and cheesy quotes from the back of an introduction to philosophy student's notebook.

We also saw the interconnectedness of the characters. Not that they were particularly interconnected, mind you. They were really just geographically proximal to each other - as is the case in this Earth we live in. Nurses really do both work a job AND exist as a sister to someone, with a homelife that isn't necessarily harsh, but it sure is more artsy if it is. None of the 9 characters' actions actually affected another character in a significant way -- but we got theat creepy feeling of "hey, I know that character from somewhere... oh yeah, the last scene" that has become the Hollywood standard scam to instantly make a bland movie seem more creative and intellectual (see Crash, Go, and Magnolia). It's really becoming a pet peeve of mine - I mean, if you're going to connect the characters, take some time and do it in a meaningful way - not just by happenstance.

I'd like to think that we can tell when the emperor has no clothes. If I am missing a significant insight to the human condition that this movie offered - let me know. It certainly took itself seriously enough to have offered some moving ideology, otherwise it was just an overdramatic peek at stereotypical vignettes.

I'll credit the actors, as showcased by the single shots, though.

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I thought it was very mediocre and boring, except for the last scene which was done brilliantly.

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I agree...

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I'm gonna go ahead and disagree and say that there was an ideology within this film. Each character had someone in there life that was an anchor to them, and all of the characters deal with, to some degree or the other, the loss of that special person in there lives and what it does to them. We see a multitude of emotion here from anger to compassion, sadness to release. I'd venture to say this movie is about the ties that bind us and what happens when they come undone.

"Up yours with a twirlin' lawnmower" - A Nightmare on Elm Street

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It's not meant to be an intellectual movie, only a movie with interesting stories (and the final, the Close/Fanning one, surely highen it up) about human weakness. Not excellent, but pretty good. Neither it's meant to be an all-metaphorical work like, for example, most from Lynch and Aronofsky (both extremely great authors and directors).
Personally I don't feel less smart because I have found "Nine Lives" an interesting and well-done movie, even if it has simpler plot and core-messages than avant-garde and experimental masterpieces.

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I loved this movie (gave it 9/10), but I do agree with the more general point you are making. I have expressed negative opinions about other films and was met with the sneering "go back to your Adam Sandler movies and video games" type remarks. Intelligent people can and do differ in their appreciation for works of art.

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