In that scene after the game where the girls got into that fight, Francis's father got upset and said that her ways were sinful or something like that. Was it because she was fighting or her boyfriend was there??
sharebecause she had a baby...
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No, that could not have been. In the scene right after the basketball game where the girls get into a fight with the other team was before Francis ran off with her boyfriend and had a baby. So he was upset about something else. Possibly because she was fighting or her boyfriend was there and they were looking at each other and her father thought it was sinful.
shareI've always thought he was mad because her boyfriend was there at the game.
sharePeople have trouble seeing their children as sexual beings. It was simply the fact that she had a boyfriend at all imo.
Marianne
But that doesn't make sense....Her father and mother were married and obviously had sex if they had Francis, unless she was adopted. So if her father and mother were sexual beings, then wouldn't her father accept that she is too.
Another thing I couldn't understand is the school board and how they didn't want Francis on the team. Yeah, maybe she got pregnant before she was married, which was a shameful thing back in those days, but she did get married. So what the heck was the problem.
I also would have to say that I applauded Driscoll for advocating for Francis by keeping her on the team, despite the fact that he himself was under fire, but also for advocating for the other girls by getting them uniforms. I think any of us who watches this movie should count how many lawsuits could have surfaced because of certain attitudes portrayed in this movie.
I don't remember this movie at all but I stand by what I say. People have trouble seeing their parents as sexual beings as well even though they know they sprung from them.
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Marianne
I am just watching this movie for the first time and it is my humble opinion that her father was already upset that her daughter was on the team. At that time it was unladylike for a girl to play sports after puberty and there was a lot of pressure on girls to pursue activities that would prepare them to be wives and mothers and not waste their time playing games. I don't believe her father even knew about the b/f, if you notice the b/f was always in the background.
I don't believe she got pregnant until after she got married. Also, I don't believe the birth control pill was available at the time.
The school board was upset that the coach wanted to keep her on the team because at the time if a girl got pregnant she was expected to quit school and get married and then concentrate on being a wife and mother. Her education was considered over and the fact that she was even allowed back in school was already a big concession, but now allowing her to play instead of attending to her responsibility would be waaaay too much to expect from a school board in OK.
It wasn't that long ago that there was a lawsuit in Texas because a cheerleader got pregnant and so she was kicked off the squad, while the football player father was not kicked off the team. This was about 30-40 years after this happened in OK, so you can imagine the atttude of the time that this story took place.
BTW-it was because of all of all of the inequities that we see in this film that gave us things like Title IX and the ability to sue. That wasn't the case at the time this story took place. You either learned to live with it or you change it like the coach did in this story.
I just watched this scene again, and here's my take.
Like another poster said, the father was already uncomfortable with her playing on the team. He probably didn't like girls wearing shorts in public because he says "that vulgar, half-naked display- we never should have allowed it." Then the fight was just the last straw. Very unladylike.
And the boyfriend does play a role. The dad yells at his daughter, "We always said your natural inclination was sinful, and that Price boy being here tonight is the proof of it."
All in all, it was just a rough night for Mr. Bonner and his Puritan-like sensibilities.