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Is there porn in this movie?


Anyone?

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Not porn, just very very intimate sex scenes. Unlike most movies, there is a of full frontal male nudity and oral sex on a male. I think this is the new wave in the movie, more realistic sex scenes.

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I would like to hear opinions about the artistic value of the nude scenes. Is it gratuitously sexual in nature? Is the sex erotic enough to merit a place within the thematic scheme? I would really like to hear about this movie (have not seen it yet) because our local public library removed it from the catalog after complaints about the sex/nudity. I was told by the library administration that this action is rarely taken by the board. Cheers!

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>>Is it gratuitously sexual in nature?<<

The movie contains real sex scenes. I didn't consider the scenes to be gratuitous.

>>Is the sex erotic enough to merit a place within the thematic scheme?<<

Absolutely. The mix of real character development and real sex, along side an exhibitionist/voyeurist subtext makes the film ten times more erotic than any "XXX" porn film.

I saw Antares at a film festival by chance and absoluelty loved it.

God loves filthy rags.

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I agree.

This is the LIFE, and the life has SEX. (Thanks Lord)

Oscar from Rosario City
Argentina

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This movie does NOT contain real sex scenes. The closest one is the blowjob scene, but in that scene you can see that the penis is NOT inside her mouth. While most of the scene the view is obstructed by her hair, there is a moment where she is moving her head up and down like a giving BJ but at the same moment you can see that the dick is not inside her mouth but outside and not even erected.

So no real BJ, no real sex.

And about the movie, it's not real bad one but very mediocore and forgettable and the sex scenes are mostly gratuitous ones and obviously there just to gain publicity and directors attempt to put himself on the map.

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Anything dealing with the portrayal of sex on screen immediately raises an almost unanswerable question concerning its justification. The subject when portrayed has a pitch that defiles. In exposing yourself to the material, you are under its spell (so to speak) and the problem of value vs. risk becomes a personal one that must ultimately be answered by the viewer. From my vantage point I found it at first to be rather bold. You see things there which simply do not find there way into films that have any other purpose than the expressed intention of arousing the viewer for their enjoyment of the arousal itself. Anything else that comes along with it, such as some kind of message is virtually collateral damage. But in this film it is not the case. After viewing the film the second time and more or less recovering form the unprecedented display, (not that sex is shocking, but finding it here, in the way it is done was most unusual, to say the least), I came to regard it in a more clinical way. I set my self the question: If the explicit display was not for the purpose of arousal why is it there? The answer I came up with is found in the specifically sensual character of the attraction between the two lovers. They hardly talk. In the first scene in the hotel room they do not kiss or embrace. The first contact is oral-genital. After completing they separate without words. She dresses and leaves after expressing her intention to return. As the interaction between them takes on further intricacies with blindfolding, and a third person voyeur, we do not get any impression that their relationship is anything by physical. Finally she repeats "I love you" three times, presumably during orgasm, and when finished says that "I never flicked like that before. Do with me what you will". I was left with the impression, that this woman, perhaps due to years of deprivation, has become so liberated by this new tension of her "forbidden" encounter with this "lover" that she is taken over by obsession. On the following day – this is only 48 hours after this renewed and unexpected rendezvous with this lover from out of town. She walks out of her old life, not even knowing if she has a new life. The way I understand all this, is that it is a portrayal of a woman who goes mad, more or less, based on pure sexual liberation, without an ounce of love involved. The passion is pure animal, and only bodily. The graphic character is in this sense quite justified to illustrate the contrast of her otherwise balanced life. We see scenes where she expresses concern that her daughter has befriended another girl whose mother allows her to stay out "that late" etc, and then on the other hand she is swept into a froth of pure desire where there is no evidence that she has any regard for her partner beyond what he does for her sexually. Mid-way they do have a conversation where it is revealed that she wasn't even aware of his marital status or if he had children. Further evidence that they have not talked about who or what they are, where they have been, what they have done. He was able to track her down by tricking her daughter via telephone to reveal where she worked. This is no coincidence. These two people know nothing about each other, nor, for the time being, seem to have any real interest in finding out too much more.

The question that remains then is not whether or not the graphic sexuality justified, because it is a very clear part of the dramatic picture that is being portrayed, but does the message (which is what?) warrant delving into the subject matter in this way.

What can we learn from such a film? I have my ideas about it, but I would like to hear what others have to say about the proceeding before I comment.

As far as the other two dramas go, there interconnectedness is purely circumstantial and in no way (that I can see) add to or subtract from each other.

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Mid-way they do have a conversation where it is revealed that she wasn't even aware of his marital status or if he had children. Further evidence that they have not talked about who or what they are, where they have been, what they have done.
Note that she doesn't even know his last name.

She's turned on by her exhibitionism, such as all the explicit photographs that also show her face. When they're showering together and she notices the room service waiter bringing more wine, she asks her lover to go down on her, in full view of the waiter, and she watches his reaction with excitement. The same thing happens later when a young maid is asked to come to their room and sees them having doggy-style sex, while she watches the maid's reaction.

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Not too much discussion here about this movie. I wonder if the person you are responding too even saw your post? His detailed posting was back in 2008.

I am curious if Austrian (European?) women are all so heartless as this Nurse (wife) who could not have been crueler in how she informed her husband that she "had taken a lover, but do not want a divorce"? She literally left her own husband with a hard-on (at least expecting some infrequent sex) - and in a totally sadistic and demeaning way. Making it VERY clear she has not only taken a lover - but prefers the lover to her own husband - as far as sex is concerned. Why would she expect this man (her husband) to not want to divorce her?

Is this now commonplace in the very secular liberal (Politically Correct) feminized European culture? This movie almost made me sympathize with the abusive super-macho husband in the second segment - the jerk that died in the car crash. Almost. Maybe the director's main point is that no one is perfect and modern liberal society is now SO screwed up that no one has any real chance at being a normal happily married human being anymore... ;-)

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lol, you're pretty much the only one that had something worthwhile to say about the actual film itself.

The coldness and matter of fact nature of the wife was very off putting to me as well. Regardless of whether she was getting f'd or not she just always seemed miserable and just completely disconnected.

Maybe the director's main point is that no one is perfect and modern liberal society is now SO screwed up that no one has any real chance at being a normal happily married human being anymore

Perhaps you're right 

~What if this is as good as it gets?!~

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Unfortunately, as usual, the genital nudity is unfair, only showing graphic male genital nudity but not actual female genital nudity. The man's penis is clearly shown repeatedly and even his erection is shown, plus acual oral sex is shown performed on him. But the woman's anus isn't shown, nor her actual vagina (labia), and her oral sex can't be clearly seen. When will these films show equally gratutious and explicit FEMALE genital nudity? I would have like to see a close-up of her genitalia (anus and labia) but, as usual, we men get cheated and only get the non-explicit female nudity (breasts, bush, and butt) even though very graphic male genital nudity was shown. (full penis, balls, and even his erection) Then these film makers wonder why their movies have limited appeal!

Sharon Stone's 1-second vulva flash in Basic Instinct caused a sensation and allowed that movie to gross over 100 million dollars; you would think that the morons in Hollywood would have learned by now that mainstream audiences want to see PUSSY, not dick. But still, over a decade after Basic Instinct, we aren't getting any female genitalia in the movies, only male genitalia. What morons...

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>>Is there porn in this movie?<<

The movie contains real sex scenes.

God loves filthy rags.

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this is a very very good movie. story keeps you hooked, acting is good and so is direction. forget about the explicit part, there is more to this movie than just love making, which, by the way, is very sensual.

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