The title of the film is called "American Hardcore" and on the DVD cover it says a history of punk bands from the 1980's through 1986. I can't believe there wasn't any section on the misfits during this time. We are shown brief interviews with a misfits band member, but no description of their band during this time. I enjoyed some of the interviews during the film, but I felt there was a lot left out about some solid punk bands during this era.
shareit's american hardcore as in hardcore bands, the misfits were not a hardcore band. hardcore is a style of music ala minor threat, gorilla biscuits, american nightmare.
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actually...the misfits had an entire chapter in the book..but they were not in the movie because of copyright issues and such.
shareAnd because The Misfits suck.
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I gotta admit they don't give me much. I like some of their stuff...Halloween occasionally pops into my head, for example...but on the whole I never get the urge to listen to them like I do with Black Flag, DKs, Flipper...all these great bands with unique things to offer.
If I want horror themed hardcore, TSOL'S Dance With Me is the way to go.
Censor *beep* Sucks.
American Nightmare is also the name of a misfits song. The misfits had more in common with hardcore than you.
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they left alot out. not just misfits. but as much as there was, there was no way to put it all in 2 hours or whatever
and early misfits were hardcore. stuff like gorilla bicuits came after. you gotta know your roots man
Yeah, I was pissed about this too. I was also disappointed about there only being one passing reference to the Dead Kennedys. I am guessing that Jello Biafra just didn't want anything to do with this film, but I was still kinda disappointed that they couldnt at least try to work them in somehow.
shareI thought that was funny, they had an interview with a band member, and there were a few fiend skulls on display at several points in the movie (on Henry Rollin's arm for one) but they weren't mentioned at all. But in saying that, I kind of understand why they did it, it seemed as though they were showing more the political aspect of a lot of bands and the Misfits music is more about horror movies and such. At least this is why I hope they weren't mentioned. To whomever said the Misfits suck, you can just go die please.
"I've got a weird thing for girls who say aboot."
Also, I assume Glenn Danzig probably wouldn't want to do an interview. And lets face facts, if you don't have Danzig, that's it, throw in the towel, who are you gonna interview, not Jerry Only, that's for damn sure, he's a huge douche now and he seems to be doing the best job he can at completely destroying the Misfits reputation.
"I've got a weird thing for girls who say aboot."
Both the DKs and the Misfits were not mentioned because the filmmakers didn't want to include Jello and Danzig OR Ray/Klaus/Peligro and Jerry/Doyle/etc and have one-sided stories of the bands
shareWell, their job would have been to speak objectively anway. All they had to do was talk about their influence on the movement not talk trash about each other. They didnt necessarily have to talk to Jello or Glen to get a perspective about how the hardcore scene was formed. Both bands were very important to the movement and should have been more than a footnote be it by interview or narrative.
shareit's american hardcore as in hardcore bands, the misfits were not a hardcore band. hardcore is a style of music ala minor threat, gorilla biscuits, american nightmare.
You suck.
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ummmm have you heard the misfits?why would they be in this movie?
shareBecause they're hardcore
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misfits are hardcore?
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damn thats a good one
what misfits do you listen to?
man if you dont know what youre talking about you shouldnt make yourself look stupid like that.
they started as a hardcore band at the beggining of the 80s. theyre trash now...but thats jerry only's doing. thats my personal oppinion
im not the one who looks stupid talking about this you *beep* moron just cuz they had a impact on the hardcore scene does not make them hardcore your a *beep* idiot and you didnt prove me wrong at all so before you go talkin *beep* at least have something to back them up just cuz a band had songs that were faster than others doesnt make them a hardcore band
*beep* douchebag
another reason you look like a total *beep* douche is now your calling them a thrash band? dude haha your a fag go listen to municipal waste or dri and than find out what thrash is
sharevile+drunk,
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Apparently you can't read you tool. Because if you could you would have noticed that clouds of teeth said trash not thrash, and also you probably would have read the book THIS MOVIE WAS BASED OFF OF, and know that the Misfits had an entire chapter in the g*d d*mn book.
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shareCan someone kindly tell me the musical difference of punk from hardcore? And I mean back then, what was the difference? And by the way, many many of these bands on this movie are bands that I've only heard to be punk bands, I've always thought of hardcore to be bands like Terror. And then some people on this thread are mentioning Dead Kennedys and the Misfits? I am completely and utterly confused here.... So this also means that The Casualties are hardcore?
What if I was to kick the ever-loving *beep* outta ya?
Hardcore punk is similar to punk such as the Sex Pistols, the Ramones, and the Clash, but is much louder, faster, and more aggressive.
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hardcore came from punk in the early 80s. see there were these bands that were influenced by punk, but people were telling them what there were playing was hardcore.
so now you have this hardcore genre that was just faster and more intense than normal punk. thats why it was "hardcore". so now that a bunch of bands started playing these hardcore you got a bunch of other bands trying to do that. but they werent influenced by punk like those early 80s bands, they were influenced by hardcore.
and casualties is straight up street punk or whatever
Its actually because despite the legacy the Misfits left behind, they weren't very active at that time. Touring was sparatic and there legend grew larger post-breakup.
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I Think Hardcore Isn't A Style Of Music, It's A Movement, And That's Why You Can Have A Whole Bunch Of Bands That Don't Sound So Similar But They Share A Background And An Objective.
shareisn't it crazy how it's changed now? what we call hardcore today is like dillinger, btbam, darkest hour, etc. i mean, they have all these sub genres like metal core, grind core, math metal, blah blah blah. yet its not quite the movement it was back in the day, even though it should with all the *beep* going on today. it kind of is, and it tries to be.. but it's not the same. i think i agree with you, it was more of a movement which is why theres documentaries on it and stuff. not so much musicians playing music, but activists and such using music to put the message in your face. today its scaling the guitar and screaming your eyeballs out and the double bass peddle, and although the lyrics are probably about politics and whatever else is wrong with the earth you dont leave a show fired up and wanting to make a change.. you leave with a sore neck, an awesome memeroy and the rights to say you saw this such and such cool band.
shareIt is pretty crazy how it has changed. I mean I'm only 26 and there were tons of metal core bands in my scene days, but we still thought bands such as Sick of it All, Vision, Murphys Law, Agnostic Front, etc... were what Hardcore was all about as far as going to shows. And when I was in a band and we had a down day(a member or 2 couldn't show) we would simply play Bad Brains, Cro-Mags, and Misfits covers instead of actually practicing. Good times!
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Misfits were one of the sickest punk bands during 77-83. Not so much Hardcore, but they were pioneers
shareThe Misfits were probably more of an influence than anything on these bands depicted in the documentary. As mentioned before, how many Misfits skulls did you see in the background when some of these musicians were being interviewed? Personally I think the Misfits are far superior musically to all of these bands except maybe Bad Brains in their hardcore prime. Their huge catalog of great songs have and will continue to stand the test of time. BTW, don't tell anyone but the Misfits are really a thrash metal band in disguise, and a truly tremendous one at that.
shareloool dillinger and btbam are definitely not hardcore. they aren't even punk, they're metal. modern hardcore is like converge, blacklisted, 108, shipwreck, etc...
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It's pretty obvious that either copyright issues or the members' refusal to contribute is the reason for this glaring omission. The same can probably be said for DK.
And, yes - read the book.
Terrorism is the war of the poor, war the terrorism of the rich - Peter Ustinov
I laugh at all the fools in this thread who say the Misfits weren't mentioned in this movie because they don't belong in it. If that's true why was Bobby Steele in the movie and why was there a Crimson Ghost skull in the background of so many of the interviews?
shareI think a bigger sin is the film not even mentioning Husker Du once. They were one of the most important punk bands ever, easily
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