Should Beauty have been tested for the virus also?
Question: Does anyone think that Beauty should have been tested for HIV/AIDS? From what I gather from the movie, if she was tested, I think she would have tested negative.
Question: Does anyone think that Beauty should have been tested for HIV/AIDS? From what I gather from the movie, if she was tested, I think she would have tested negative.
I saw this film just last night. As a matter of public health, I think it would have been appropriate to test Beauty. I don't think it mattered to the narrative. The generally optimistic tone at the end suggests that Beauty was negative for the virus, although it's hard to be certain. The unspoken assumption I took from the film is that the husband contracted the virus in Jo'burg while away from his wife, based on what I've read in the news about how the disease is often spread in South Africa. Anyone have a different take on this, esp. from South Africa itself?
shareYesterday undoubtedly contracted the virus from her mineworker husband, it says so in the story. I think your take out should be that Beauty is HIV negative, she is just starting school and has her whole life to look forward to. An optimistic ending.
shareI think that it would have been wise to test her as well. Even if she didn't contract it from birth, there were so many ways she was put in contact with blood and other things where she could have contracted it.
shareI am an HIV counselor & a C.H.O.W certified outreach worker in San Francisco & the Bay Area. You're right Angel, any child whose parents test positive should also be tested being there's a few ways it could be passed such as using the same tooth brush. Children should be tested just to be on the safe side not b/c there's a high probability that their parents passed it.
sharehow can someone contract AIDS from a toothbrush? The AIDS virus disipates when it comes in contact with air. although i suppose if someone had a cut in their mouth and there was blood on the brush it might happen. but still...
sharemany many people bleed when brushing their teeth, especially in countries where dental regimes are not well-regulated (no regular trips to the dentist, no knowledge about gingevitus). believe it or not, there are many cases in which this has happened.
shareChances are very, very, VERY unlikely. The quantity of virus in the saliva is EXTREMELY low. HIV is much more concentrated in vaginal secretions, breast milk (more likely where she could get it from), blood, and semen. I'm surprised you're an HIV counselor, you know less than most high school students know about AIDS.
From Wikipedia: "HIV has been found at low concentrations in the saliva, tears and urine of infected individuals, but the risk of transmission by these secretions is negligible."
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Your right, but the toothbrush thing was not about saliva, but rather blood from the gums directly.
shareReally how?! Not many ways to contact this virus simply living with someone. I mean maybe if u both had horribly bleeding gums and shared a toothbrush...
The point is you need YOUR blood to come into contact with the INFECTED blood.
Yes, I think Beauty should have been tested, but I agree that the way the movie progressed she most likely would have tested negative. This was a wonderful movie about strength!!
shareI got the impression that Yesterday contracted the virus after she gave birth to Beauty.
shareI agree with krazyhorse. I think it was pretty much implied from the discussion between Yesterday with the doctor or teacher (I forget which one) that the husband had committed infidelity at some point--during his long work shifts away from home.
shareEven though I am sure the test results would have been negative, I think Beauty should have been tested for the virus too. The scene with the bandage had me a little concerned in that regard.
You must do the thing you think you cannot do. Eleanor Roosevelt
I think Beauty should also be tested for the virus because she handled Yesterdays bandaid that was on her arm from the bloodtest. I gasped when I saw that scene and realised that Yesterday had no idea her sickness could be spread to her daughter from the blood on her bandaid.
sharewasn't the blood dried by then, though? yesterday had it folded over as well. unless the blood is fresh, oozing, and beauty had open cuts, i think the risk of infection and transmission was incredibly low. also, being in a poor, rural village, it's not as if they had proper means of disposing of the bandage anyways. no latex gloves, biohazard kit, etc.
shareGeez people, it is very hard to get HIV through casual contact. Even with microscopic tears in the gums they are not going to pass it through brushing of teeth. Dried bodily fluids cannot transmit HIV, such as the band aid. You have to have both a fluid, a door, and enough of the virus for it to happen. Honestly, this is a major pandemic and people should know the basics of it otherwise we are going to start stoning our infected people.
If Beauty was infected it would have possible been through childbirth or breast feeding. Especially in countries like that, children tend to be breastfed for a long time, but six months is the cut off point to be safe.
Since Yesterday was already done with the quiet period, which lasts about 5 years in developing countries, there is a decent chance she was infected before Beauty was born. However a significant amount of children who contract HIV early on would be dead or showing symptoms by Beauty's age. Even without sickness there would probably be developmental issues happening. Since none of those were seen, from a medical perspective it seems as if Beauty was probably safe.
The sad/ironic part is I bet many of those who are ignorant to the facts of transmission of this virus are the very same people who go have sex with strangers or without protection.
shareNot to be rude, but you know nothing about transmission! You sound like the scared villagers being worried about the husband being in town. A bloody bandaid held in a hand cannot transmit the disease! There would have to be fresh blood on one and then that bandage would have to come into extreme contact with an open wound to access the blood of the other person. Jeez people this is not 1987, get with it!
shareIt is likely the father got the disease while working away...he probably saw a hooker as these men tend to and got it. His habit of working at the mines and being away from his wife for long periods probably did not start till after he had a family to take care of financially. So basically they got it after Beauty was born sometime.
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