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Question...Debate with friend.... ::spoiler::

posted 16 years ago by I-Luv-Movies
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Ok..I guess this is up for interpretation...but...
The question is in regard to the sex scene that immediately follows Leila and David in the club after he gets upset she is dancing with other men.
Did they have anal sex? It appeared as if he hurt her during that intercourse.
Was the tear that ran down her face from pain?
Was he all about control with her? I mean, especially when they were lying in bed after that and he said, "Look at me."...she did ..then he said nothing. Hmmm..
I've watched the scene with the audio commentary...nothing.
What are your thoughts?

[–] Stone230 16 years ago

Yes that is when they did have Anal Sex as you will see in the IMDB plot keyword for this movie: Anal Sex. And yeah, I got that too, he was all about the control.

[–] flaneur2 16 years ago

They totally had anal sex. He muttered something about "needing this" for himself or some such thing. So he wanted a clean frontier. A piece of her that hadn't been taken by someone else. And then when she's moaning about it he's like "it's okay" which really indicates that he's coaxing her through something that she is not familiar with.
I think it might be going too far to put it all on him being controlling though. I think they just really want to eat each other up and want deep untainted inside parts of one another and hmm, I thought it was pretty beautiful - the anal sex, and then him asking her to look at him later. It's like asking for connection, as she was slipping away a bit. But they definitely were having issues with wanting a lot from one another and then getting freaked out and running away (or having anal sex to try to get closer and "have" one another).

But yes, interpretation...

[–] trazey34 15 years ago

So he wanted a clean frontier. A piece of her that hadn't been taken by someone else.

OK I died laughing at this -- anal sex and they refer to it as the "clean frontier" LOL LOL and puh-lease you honestly think she'd never done that before??? maybe not that DAY but c'mon.

[–] flaneur2 8 years ago

I mean, I guess it's kind of funny if you are referring to the fact that anal sex might be "dirty" because of feces... but anyway, to each their own man.
Like I said, interpretation...
Also! I might recommend learning how to put forth your opinions in less... abrasive.. ways. :) (Perhaps you have in the last 6 years. Here's hoping.)

[–] regis_imdb 16 years ago

he tells her that he loves her right after they finish having anal sex.

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[–] arenotelicon 16 years ago

When you want it, it's not submission. I don't know why people keep thinking that being on the receiving end of penetrative sex automatically puts you in a weaker position.

[–] NineInchNailed 16 years ago

I didn't even know what it was all about until reading all of these interpretations. It was 100% anal, however I don't think she was a "virgin" at that. Rememeber how right before that he was like, "I have a question for you: did you ever have one man's cock inside your ass and his best friend's cock in your mouth?" and she was all giggling, and answering, "yes." So he was all upset, he even asked her if she was a slut, he wanted her just for himself, all for himself. I do interpret that as being controlling, in that situation at least, because she was all "what are you doing" and she was in obvious pain. Furthermore, she didn't have much...room to move, he was right on top of her.

Why was he crying afterwards though, that's what I didn't understand?

When a missionary is pushed, building a stretcher is as easy as breathing - Rambo (2008)

[–] cheli807 16 years ago

when she says, "Yes" to those questions she later says something meaning she was just playing around...at least thats how i took it.

[–] somethingclever-1 16 years ago

I agree.

She said no or something to that degree to indicate she was joking.

[–] MydnightRose 16 years ago

It looked to me like she was in pain and was freaked out like she had never done that before. So it could have been he wanted something no other guy had had.

"I want to record a song with Michael Jackson, I just want a wall between us"-Joe Jonas

[–] absinthia 16 years ago

looked like anal sex to me. the scene was ridiculous and they were both emotionally messed up people. i don't think she was a virgin at it. i think he cried because he wanted such a slut and she cried because it hurt. two shallow idiots having pointless sex.

if he wanted to go where "no man had gone before" then he needed a different woman.

there are more seams to me than there seem to be. --me, circa 2001

[–] allcaz-1 15 years ago

it was anal sex, no doubt. what i dont understand is why - in every movie i've seen where they dare to include an anal sex scene - it has to be painful. maybe they think that if they dont show pain people wouldnt notice? i prefer to believe that than that they only conceive anal sex as painful.

[–] machicolator 14 years ago

Been a while since I saw this so my recollection might be hazy, but my take on that scene was that up till then in the film Leila had always had sex on her terms - she was in control in some form or another whenever sex was initiated.

This was most clearly shown when she had sex with the submissive guy who satisfied her on demand without any emotional connection early in the movie, but couldn't please her later even though (and probably because) he played the same role. She had grown due to her relationship with David and now needed the intimate emotional connection to feel pleasure from sex.

The anal scene was when she changed - it was the first time she'd trusted someone else to take charge even though she was afraid of losing that control. He did it to keep her because he knew she would leave him otherwise - right before that she was messing around with other guys without caring if she hurt him.

IMHO this movie showed how a lot of disaffected young people misunderstand and therefore abuse the role of sex in a relationship. If you're a basically well adjusted person it might come off as ham-fisted and stupid, but if your experience is that of divorce and dysfunction then much in "Lie to Me" may ring true.

[–] angelelaura 14 years ago

I agree a bit with that...I think she was letting another person have sex with her, when before it had always been about her pleasure, I think the tear was clearly not from pain, it was the emotions she'd gone through, and also I think you could see in her eyes that she knew she had to leave him because she realised she loved him or at least cared about him, but didn't know how to give him what he wanted...

When they had anal sex David admitted that he needed her and that he never wanted her to leave, I think she was scared she couldn't live up to his need and knew that she couldn't be there for him all the time...or at least during that scene she doubted herself and was upset she'd promised not to leave him when it was a promise she didn't know how to keep, obviously at the end she felt differently...

I think the most painful scene to watch is the scene right afterwards when David asks her to look at him...when he asks you can tell he's scared she's slipping away from him, that she is planning to leave and therefore lied to him when they had sex (something she says when he throws her out later she says "we can lie to each other" rather than lie with each other...and he gets really angry over it, i think thats a link back to this scene), and then when she looks at him finally she doesn't give him any reasurance thats he's only being paranoid and he's clearly disappointed that he's right about her leaving...

I think when viewed in context with other scenes this particular sex scene means so much more than simply David being dominant if it means that at all...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr48s3OHrZ8