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which movie was better- flags of our fathers or letters from iwo jima??


I personally feel that letters from iwo jima is much better than flags of our fathers, and yet the latter was nominated for oscar!!

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Letters from Iwo Jima was more focussed on the battle itself; Flags of our Fathers was more focussed on the American politics behind the war.

And ofcourse, on a lesser note, the hypocrisy towards native Americans (same with all other races besides caucasian): good enough to die for 'their' country, but not good enoug to live in 'our' country.

Eastwood made an excellent point with Flags of our Fathers: the only respect that should go out is to the soldiers and their families, making selfless sacrifices trying to save all brothers in arms; nothing more.

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I personally think that Letters was the better of the two films.

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Both very good but Letters is better.

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I felt that telling FLAGS in a non-chronological order gave it a better pacing than LETTERS'. By the way, both movies were nominated for the Oscars.

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Flags of Our Father was better. I had a hard time following Letters from Iwa Jima. I would say the story for Letters from Iwa Jima was slightly better, the subtitles were one of the reasons why I didn't like it much.

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Flags of Our Father was better. I had a hard time following Letters from Iwa Jima. I would say the story for Letters from Iwa Jima was slightly better, the subtitles were one of the reasons why I didn't like it much.


That's more of an argument for the greater ease of viewing films in your own language, as opposed to the respective quality of these two movies.

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I gave Flags about 7/10 and Letters 6/10. By comparison, I gave Pvt. Ryan a 10.

I have seen enough to know I have seen too much. -- ALOTO

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I'd go with Letters from Iwo Jima, but only because I feel that it may be Eastwood's very best film. Flags of Our Fathers is excellent, wrenching, and profoundly subversive in its own right, but Letters from Iwo Jima is sublime, achieving a sense of fluid fatalism, artistic ease, simple power, and universal resonance reminiscent of Akira Kurosawa and Ingmar Bergman.

And by the way, Letters from Iwo Jima was the film that received Oscar nominations for Best Picture and Best Director, not Flags of Our Fathers (both were deserving, but realistically, the Academy was not going to nominate the same person twice in the same category.)

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I think the reason why many people prefers Letters from Iwo Jima was because of the way Flags of our Fathers kept jumping around in time periods. This style, normally doesn't sit well with audiences. One of my all time favorite movies is American Grafitti but the sequel jumped back and forth over a 4 year time period. I still enjoyed the sequel but the majority of audiences didn't, citing what I just said as the biggest reason. I guess you have to grab an audience and hold them but jumping around, confuses people. Still, IMHO, I liked Flags slightly better than Letters. It told the story of the sacrifices in battle but also what they went through at home. I detested Ira constantly called "Chief" and the way he was treated, like the scene where they wouldn't serve him at a bar. And if that scene with General Vandergrift (pardon the spelling if it is wrong) is accurate, this was not a wise decision to want to get rid of Ira. They were on the bond drive because, like they said in the movie, the country was flat broke. The amount of money these 3 helped raise was incredible so you think the press wouldn't find out why Ira was no longer on the tour? And the press, as usual, put getting the truth over who raised the flag first, over this country!

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I really don't know if there is a good answer as to why people like Letters more. I have seen Letters 3 times now and have not gotten through Flags. I think one reason is that no one ever makes a film showing the other side and it was just fascinating! Is there any movies that showcase the German side of WWII like this? I may try Flags again but The Pacific seems to be better to watch in it's place.

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not exactly the same but there are some;

In English we have;'
The Cross Of Iron(East-front after the defeat at Stalingrad)
Conspiracy(how the descision was made about "the final solution")
Valkery (the plot to kill Hitler)
Schindler's List (about the concentration camps albeit from the perspective of the Jews and a German buisnessman)

And in German we have;
Das Boot(about the U-boat war)
Der Üntergang (the last Days of Hitler)
Stalingrad (the city wich led to the demise of nazi-Germany)
the German parts of The Longest Day (about D-day)

Also interesting is the war from the perspective of the civilians;
Heimat-Eine Deutsche Chronik (we follow the lives of a family in a small German village throughout the course of a 30+ year period)
a wonderful series by Edgar Reitz wich has three sequels but this part specificly deals with Germany from the end of W.W. I to the 1950's.


Most films usually don't get financed so easy if you have a script wich solely deals with the Germans.It was one of the reasons why it took Wolfgang Petersen so long to get the money for Das Boot before that(when American studio's had shown interest in the book)there had been talks about involving Americans in the script or having the German crew be played by Americans as was done in The Cross Of Iron wich was based on a book by Willi Heinrich(Steve McQueen was rumoured to have shown interest in the part of Jürgen Prochnow).

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The problem with FoOf wasn't that it jumped between time periods. I saw 500 Days of Summer recently and I thought it switched between different points on the timeline very smoothly. Another example is Memento, which is non-linear in a different way, but non-linear and hard to follow all the same. Both of these movies were pretty popular with critics and audiences.

FoOF pulled off the time period switching quite badly, IMO. But that wasn't the only thing: the movie was far too long and slow for its content and frankly, just too many things happened without any good, coherent plot to good them together. There was no clever planning needed because the Americans just piled loads of soldiers onto the island until they took it over. The Japanese in LfIJ had to plan things and strategise because they had very limited soldiers and supplies. Seeing these things is what makes a movie more interesting. Things are often more interesting when told from the point of view of the underdog. It was a story that was told much better from one side than the other.

Btw, I gave FoOF 6/10 and LfIJ 8/10.

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Letters from Iwo Jima

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