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Does Delta Squad disobey Order 66? *EP 3 SPOILERS*


One of your squad mates says in 'Republic Commando', "I don't care if that order came from Master Yoda himself", in reply to a general telling you to pull out and leaving your teammate behind. This game is supposed to imply that Delta Squad is a cut above the rest, as they are an elite squad that is trained differently, act differently, and are allowed to put war paint on their uniforms.

The reason I ask is, you would have to be completely brainwashed to follow an order to kill all the Jedi; the same Jedi that have been leading you into battle for years. Delta Squad seemed to be more independent than the rest, and obviously disobeyed orders when they decided to look for their 'pod brother'.

Was Delta Squad ever mentioned in Ep. 3? I can't remember if they were.

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As far as I know, Delta Squad weren't mentioned in Revenge of the Sith.

However, they didn't go to look for Sev. Delta Adviser and Fixer convinced Scorch and Delta-38 to leave, and they were transported to another battle in another part of Kashyyyk.

I doubt Delta Squad disobeyed Order 66 - you saw that Commander Cody was firm friends with Obi-Wan, but he obeyed the Order unquestioningly. I'm pretty sure all clones would have obeyed unthinkingly, no matter what their training.

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This is an interesting topic. I pulled out Star Wars Insider Magazine, Issue #84, and took a look at the article about Clone Troopers on this one. This is what I came up with, to start:

Quote (p.31) - "Records salvaged from Kamino show that no genetic coding was used to implant obedience to this order (66). The efficiency with which this order was carried out was due to a genetic predisposition to be highly disciplined - and so to follow orders - that was developed and reinforced by rigorous training."

What remains in question, unfortunately, is *exactly* what kind of training Delta Squad recieved in terms of independent/creative thinking. The article above referred to Clone Troopers in general. We can still only speculate about the exact differences in the training of a standard Clone Trooper vs. a Commando. However, we can say that there are definite differences in the way a Special Forces soldier operates compared to a regular soldier, and many of those differences lie in the Special Force Commando's ability to respond more appropriately and more creatively to any challenging situation.

All this considered here is my *speculation* - Delta Squad was probably not even employed in Order 66. There were literally dozens of entire legions of Clone Troopers available for betrayal of their commanders. Seeing as how the Jedi were unsupecting, there would be no need for Commandos to perform these atrocities when unquestioning clones were available in hordes for completing the task.

Furthermore, the Commandos would indeed be more likely in general to question such an extreme order due to whatever training in independent thought they did recieve. This window of opprtunity, however small, would not appeal to Palpatine at all when considering the best way to implement Order 66. Imagine if a Commando Squad did actually rebel and refuse to slay a Jedi commander. Then you'd have a Clone Commando Squad being led by a Jedi against the Empire!!! That would be an insanely powerful group that could cause massive damage to the Empire at key vulnerable points, and would constitute *much* too large of a risk for Palpatine.

Finally, I'll share one more quote from Star Wars Insider Issue #84 in relation to this awesome topic before fianlly shutting up:

Quote (p.27) - "The highly independent Republic Commandos required almost no direction from Jedi command and were largely self-directing when given broad objectives. This greatly increased their 'clout per credit' by freeing up many Jedi for duty with the regular army."

Granted, Order 66 was not a "broad objective". It was very specific. But the dangers mentioned above combined with the independence training of a Commando in general lead me to think that they were not used in Order 66, and would be assigned the more broadly-based objectives of infiltration/stealth tasks that were more appropriate to their training, and less risky to the Empire.

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I don't know about ep.#2, but in the video game, Delta Squad didn't directly work with any Jedi. Why would they be ordered to kill Jedi, when they were'nt anywhere near them?

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what i reallllly hope is that they dont follow it and that they do find sev....cuz i liked sev...ergh...im mad at yoda right now....just ifnished the game today....and yoda made them leave sev!!! and fixer...ergh...

When life gives you lemons, throw them at people.

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I think in the next one, you'll start on Kashykk, and when the time comes, you can choose to obey Order 66 or disobey it.

"If at first you don't succeed..I'll kill him....and you'll try again."

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that would be awesoooooooome

When life gives you lemons, throw them at people.

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I've always roleplayed a group of clone commando's who go to the Jedi Temple to spy on the Jedi (before Order 66) and then Order 66 comes about and all the commandos except the commando leader follow the order.
So then he has to fight his own commando friends and tell the Jedi, hope they believe him, and then more clones come with Anakin/ Vader and him and the Jedi has to fight back.

Any ideas or improvements how the plot could go

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In one of the books with the Darth Vadar cover on it, James Lucino I think, not sure. There was a clone commando led by Sarge Climber. He refused to obey order 66, and warned the Jedi. Even to the point of using stun grenades on his fellow clones to prevent them from shooting. Later his squad was cut down by Vader and he was killed by his fellow clone brothers. Poor guy.

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Yea, the thing is.The ending of RC can be viewed in many ways. to me.. what i noticed is that, when Boss said he didnt care if the order came from master yoda himself. shows how much dependent the clones have. Yoda was the highest rank in the jedi council. so if 38 was ready to disobey even yoda's orders. i think he could possilby disobey palpatine's too. lol stuff like this makes you think. :P

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Well when he found out that the order came from yoda he backed down anyway so it seemed to me all talk. And I always hated that whole "Rendevous with Delta Squad we must"-line...

Anyway, the Commandos are not supposed to be near any jedi anyway so even if they got the order they wouldn't have the opportunity to test their discipline.


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that's why people seem bright,
until you hear them.

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He was Captured not killed

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I do not think it matters if the Deltas would have followed Order 66 or not. I think they made a point in Ep. 3 to show that the Jedi were never paired with Commandos and instead were paired with regular clones. If I remember one squad actually did refuse to obey Order 66 and they let the Jedi go. That Jedi ended up being killed later on anyway. Even if it had come down to them killing a jedi I don't think 38 would have had a problem with it since he doesn't have a very high opinion ofjedi as evidenced by his remarks in-game. I also seem to a remember a deleted line by Commander Cody were he only expresses annoyance at having to kill Obi-wan AFTER he gave him his lightsaber back. Even if it came down to a commando having to kill a jedi, a regular commando would have no problem following those orders. The Kaminoans learned their lesson regarding clone independence with the Null-class ARC troopers. The took steps to ensure that no clone would ever disobey orders again.

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I think the commandos would've probably killed the Jedi at the drop of a hat if the order came. Which it probably did. At the end of Republic Commando the invasion by Republic forces is beginning, and if this is the same invasion from Episode: III, then that means Luminara Unduli and another Jedi (Can't remember who exactly). So if the BARC troopers weren't able to kill them, which they probably could, the second-in-command could call in the Deltas and finish the job. Besides, the Deltas hardly got any attention. Such as Geonosis, where the Jedi were given most of the credit.

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