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The 'real ' Salvador Allende


Allende is an interesting figure in that he seems to be either worshipped or hated depending on one's political point of view. I actually lived under his government as a little kid, even though my family were the kind of upper-middle class people that would typically become pinochetistas, so I kind of have a more objective view of him than most.

Like many radical leftists Allende was a romantic idealist and his political and economic policies, while noble in a Don Quijote sense, were foolhardy in reality and really made a mess in Chile (even aside from the US sabotaging them). On the other hand though because Allende was the kind of idealist who truly believed in democracy, he proved much more vulnerable than more ruthless and tyrannical leftists like Castro or Hugo Chavez. For better or worse, those guys would have suspended democracy and murdered, imprisoned, or exiled their political enemies before they could do the same to them.

Allende had a lot of good qualities, but as a leader he was flawed. If I had to choose between Chile under Allende's socialist revolution, Chile under the Pinochet dictatorship's "free-market" counter-revolution, or Chile today under a more moderate and pragmatic democratic government, I'd definitely choose the last. But there's still many, many poor people in Chile and the rest of Latin America, and the appeal of someone like Allende is certainly understandable.

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If I had to choose between Chile under Allende's socialist revolution, Chile under the Pinochet dictatorship's "free-market" counter-revolution, or Chile today under a more moderate and pragmatic democratic government, I'd definitely choose the last. But there's still many, many poor people in Chile and the rest of Latin America, and the appeal of someone like Allende is certainly understandable.



You sound like a closeted "Pinochetista". I wonder if your second choice was Pinochet's brutal and criminal dictatorship, or as you so benevolently describes "Free-Market counter-revolution". pfft! That's one of the most ludicrous euphemisms that I've ever read!!!

BTW: A "Flawed" leader? Why? Because he didn't want to use the brute force in order to defeat the ultra-conservative forces that finally took his life and destroyed the heart and dreams of millions of chileans? or because he was "leftist"? (since you clearly despises anything related to the left).
So if Allende would have used the force, eliminating his enemies before his enemies could eliminate him... Would you consider him a successful leader?? C'mon! I bet you would be comparing Allende with Stalin or Pol Pot! You hypocrite!

I wonder if you consider Pinochet a "successful" leader just because he managed to remain in the power almost for 20 years. Using your logic that guy wasn't a "flawed" leader. The man (Pinocho) successfully eliminated his potential adversaries by killing them by thousands. Incarcerating, "disappearing" and torturing even more. Hunting several of those who could left Chile, like Orlando Letelier (former chancellor under President Allende) who was killed in Washington by "sicarios" (assassins) sent by Pinochet. An act so horrendous that even the nefarious Kissinger got upset because of it. Kissinger asked to his employee Pinochet, to stop killing former collaborators of Allende in USA. He could kill all of them in Chile without any problem, though. Seems Kissinger didn't want to see the blood of chileans dirtying the streets of the land of the "freedom", even when he backed up that coup d'état.

Finally, I dunno if you are a son of Pinochet's Chile or just a brainwashed gringo who happened to spend his/her childhood in Chile during the coup d'état of 1973. Whatever is the answer, I pity you.

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I think your analysis is interesting.

I was born in the early 80's, in Chile under Pinochet. Born and raised in this awful country, my generation has never known real "democracy". We don't worship Salvador Allende, but indeed he's an admirable human being, true to his convictions and devoted to the people, not to the businessmen and money, like today's chilean politicians.

No one in my family was a "pinochetista" of course, we were lower class. And we still are, despite I can write in english on the internet and I have a professional degree (I've worked hard for it).

I can't understand anyways how can anyone who lived under Pinochet cruelest dictatorship, could picture the "choose between Allende or Pinochet"? If someone choose Pinochet, that person is crazy or is evil. Period.

Please excuse my terrible redaction, english is not my native language IMDb = Catch-22

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