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North + South - Short Stories, Poems & More: Volume 2


Feel free to add to our growing collection of short stories and poems. Be inspired, have fun and let the creativity flow!

Volume 1: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417349/board/thread/178532505


Notes:
- Any and all genres of short literature are welcome here. New pieces of prose or verse are encouraged to be posted as a reply to this first post here.

- Short stories may be as short as a few lines of a paragraph or as big as an essay i.e. as much as one post here can hold. Anything longer than that is not considered a work of short fiction as per the definition above and will require a new thread.

- Having said that, similar themed posts may form a set of poems or flash-fiction by the same poster and are encouraged to be appropriately titled.

- Types of short stories: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Short_story_types

- Types of poems: https://www.youngwriters.co.uk/glossary-poetry-types

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The Inspector's Drabble: "Questions"

He stood in the middle of street, perplexed, unsure of what to do next. The letter had come as a shock to him and the lady’s reaction to it was suspiciously confusing the more he thought on it. Was she surprised? Why was she surprised? What led Mr Thornton to believe that the victim was undoubtedly not murdered? And what of this man seen with the lady at the station? Who and where is he now? And how is he linked to Ms Hale of Crampton, he pondered, as he put his hat back on before he set off again.

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'And what will Inspector Mason do next?'  So many questions! This calls for a sequel, Lois! 


And... Thank you for starting the new thread.  Clear, concise, and with links--You're a girl after my own heart!  (The Table of Contents has already been edited to include this new thread)

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Thanks for starting this new thread Lois and I love your story. 

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Friendless and alone
Drowned in a sea of purple
Boucher met his fate

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Gosh. Good one, Laura--but rather dark. 

Look at you, ladies!--Talking about being on a roll...  You keep them coming!

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Thank you for starting the new thread.  Clear, concise, and with links--You're a girl after my own heart!  (The Table of Contents has already been edited to include this new thread)
🙌 I aim to please!
You've inspired me with your flash-fiction Birds. So, let me "Thank you!" Birds. 
I'm loving writing the "drabble" - 100 words (not including the title) seems quite doable.👍 I see you've dabbled in a drabble () too Birds! Good stuff!
And what will Inspector Mason do next?'  So many questions! This calls for a sequel, Lois! 
LOL! Most definitely! 


Thanks for starting this new thread Lois and I love your story. 
Aww...Thank you both!  🙏
Friendless and alone
Drowned in a sea of purple
Boucher met his fate
your haiku "Boucher's Demise", Laura. It's beautifully sad. I feel so sorry about how helpless Boucher was by his circumstances. We may try to change our circumstances but ultimately our will chooses our destiny.

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I Have Seen Hell

Traversing the short passageway while she approached the sliding doors felt like forever. The workers' stares burnt into her back, the dust in the air was choking her. And the noise! Getting louder by the step.

She pushed open the entrance; the perpetual clatter became a solid wall of sound. How could people stand it? She stared, disoriented by glaring lights and machinery in motion. And fluff, swirling like snow.

And amidst it all, or rather, raised above the whirr... a dark vigilant presence. Like a puppet player directing the show. Master or demon--who knew?

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Love love love how descriptive your stories are, Birds. You are soo good!  Great job!

Master or demon--who knew?
Eerily perfect! 

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The Inspector's Drabble: "Surveillance"

Hidden from view, standing by the corner of the building, the inspector stood watching the front porch of the Crampton house observing the going ins and outs for a few minutes. There wasn't a lot of activity but just now Mr Thornton had emerged from the door and stood a moment with his head down and eyes closed. He had in his right hand a stack of books tied together which he readjusted as he climbed down the steps turning townward. Common knowledge was that Mr Hale was his friend who was reading the classics with him now; oddly enough.

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The Inspector's Drabble: "Surveillance"
What a great idea to make this into a series, Lois  I love it, and I can't wait for more!  Btw is it only me who's finding Inspector Mason the teensiest bit of a sinister character? Or is he just a man doing his job?



Back to some of your earlier posts / replies, Lois...

You've inspired me with your flash-fiction Birds. So, let me "Thank you!" Birds.  I'm loving writing the "drabble" - 100 words (not including the title) seems quite doable.
Me being a writer's inspiration? I'm loving it!  But a drabble is indeed a great thing to 'dabble' in (), I very much like the restriction of the 100 words; long enough for a proper setting, but so short that every word and expression counts, with no room for empty phrases... I think this is also a good exercise in discipline for longer stories.

Eerily perfect! 
Awww... Thank you for the praise, Lois. 

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Thanks for the appreciation of my Haiku. That one came to me very quickly. Yes, it was a bit dark. Poor Boucher. 

I Have Seen Hell


Loved it Birds.  Like Lois said, you stories are so descriptive. I especially loved the bit about him being a ‘dark vigilant presence’ and a ‘puppet player directing the show’. 

What a great idea to make this into a series, Lois 


I agree. I’m really enjoying your ‘Drabble’ lois.  I’ve actually never heard that word before or indeed ‘flash fiction’ before Birds posted her recent short stories. Thanks for the links in your initial post. 

Btw is it only me who's finding Inspector Mason the teensiest bit of a sinister character? Or is he just a man doing his job?


He does seem a bit sinister. LOL! Probably because he is spying on the family.

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I’ve actually never heard that word before or indeed ‘flash fiction’ before Birds posted her recent short stories. Thanks for the links in your initial post. 
Let me tell you Laura, I too had no idea what a "drabble" was until late last night. I had heard of "flash fiction" but I didn't know what it was exactly; or any other form of writing, for that matter.

So, what happened was, last night I wrote a small paragraph and was surprised to see that it was exactly 100 words! I was so delighted with that and decided to post it. But since I had to start the new thread to do that, I went ahead and looked up the different types of short stories to put in the description in the first post. That's when I came across the "drabble".

You can believe my surprise when I tell you that I didn't know there was such a category in the first place! Up until that point, the paragraph was just going to be called "The Inspector's Questions". LOL (I'm terrible with titles )! I guess it sorta all worked out. 

Btw is it only me who's finding Inspector Mason the teensiest bit of a sinister character? Or is he just a man doing his job?

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He does seem a bit sinister. LOL! Probably because he is spying on the family.
LOL! Does he, Birds? That wasn't intentional. 

I really wanted to expand on the doubt he (seemingly) felt when Margaret asked him about Mr Thornton (really) believing that she wasn't there at the station. And his disappointment in learning that John dismissed the notion of an inquest on what seemed like a otherwise strong case to him (with a witness and all). So I don't think he would have let it go so easily, you see; certainly not without looking into it a bit more himself, on his own at least; outside of his work hours, perhaps?

It's another one of things that I've always wanted to write about. And I wanted to try and write a sorta mystery/investigation piece. So, I'm glad it has turned out the way it did; very pleased! 

Me being a writer's inspiration? I'm loving it! 
 Believe it, Birds!  Of course! You inspired me to write my short stories here. I had only experimented in verse before ("Cotton Snow" being my first) and that was because of you, Laura. You're so good at poetry (and at the games too); I'm really jealous of how quick you are Laura (I love how it comes so naturally to you). And how detailed you are, Birds. So both of you in your own way, through your writings, have inspired me to give it a try too.  And I'm so glad I did.   

...I very much like the restriction of the 100 words; long enough for a proper setting, but so short that every word and expression counts, with no room for empty phrases... I think this is also a good exercise in discipline for longer stories.
You've done a wonderful job with it, Birds. 

I didn't know that it was something writer's did to practice their writing until last night. I agree; a great workout to improve one's writing skills and their creativity too. 

I'm really happy that we've all been inspired by each other now. Great start to the thread! Thanks ladies. 👏

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("Cotton Snow" being my first) and that was because of you, Laura. You're so good at poetry (and at the games too); I'm really jealous of how quick you are Laura (I love how it comes so naturally to you).


That is so lovely of you to say Lois.  I've never really thought I was particularly good at poetry. Sometimes it comes easily, other times it doesn't, the same with the games. Poetry isn't something I wrote until I was inspired by others such as Pat on here. And I think you are a natural at poetry and storytelling. You too Birds. You are both such talented writers and I'm envious of you both.

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And I think you are a natural at poetry and storytelling. You too Birds. You are both such talented writers and I'm envious of you both

... says the woman who does such wonderful poetry.  There's really no need whatsoever for you to be shy, Laura! 

Do write, both of you! Don't worry too much about 'good or bad', or what others may think about it... Just have fun! (Best advice I can come up with)

I guess it sorta all worked out. 

Strangely enough, this happens more often than not in writing, in my experience. 

LOL! Does he, Birds? That wasn't intentional. 

 Nothing wrong with a bit of 'sinister'. I like it!

 Believe it, Birds!  Of course! You inspired me to write my short stories here.

 

I'm really happy that we've all been inspired by each other now. Great start to the thread! Thanks ladies. 👏


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... says the woman who does such wonderful poetry.  There's really no need whatsoever for you to be shy, Laura! 


Awe thanks Birds. 

Nothing wrong with a bit of 'sinister'. I like it!


I recall your Inspector Mason being a bit 'sinister' in one of your What If stories Birds. I remember likening him to Javert in Les Miserables. LOL!

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Suddenly

Marlborough Mills. The loading bay at the yard. Like thieves caught in the act both spinner girls looked down at the ground in mute dismay. Did he hear?

Know what they say about Thorntons? They can smell when you're not working.

Obviously, they can also hear what you are thinking. Take right now. A little innocent airing of grievances, a naïve question by an outsider about... well, never mind! That's all union business and none of our concern just yet... and wham! there he is, right behind you. Out of nowhere.

Talk of the Devil, and see his horns.



(Looks like this man has an image problem)

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I loved this scene from the series, Birds. Great job Birds. But, can I ask, is this in a collective voice for both the girls?? 

Talk of the Devil, and see his horns.



(Looks like this man has an image problem)
 I don't think the man himself has a problem with his image; it's all these ladies! Gosh, is he really that bad?! First, a demon... now, the devil.  Poor John, .

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Thank you, Lois. 

But, can I ask, is this in a collective voice for both the girls?? 
No, more likely it's just one of them... but since it could be either of them I didn't bother to identify the 'thinker'.

Actually, I wrote this late last night after browsing that website about phrases and proverbs I frequently use (see below)--totally not thinking about short stories at the time--and came across that particular phrase 'Talk of the devil'... and the image of Jenny and her spinner friend out in the yard with Margaret instantly sprang to mind, and seemed a chance for a drabble too good to miss...  Sorry, John!



http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/index.html

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Love it Birds.  I always liked this scene as well. And of course it leads to the 'You're ill?' question from John. 

Also, I don't know where those two actresses come from but their accents sound very authentic for Manchester/Milton.

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Thank you so much, Laura.  Anyway, I'll better try some "speak of angels, and you will hear their wings" next. 

I don't know where those two actresses come from but their accents sound very authentic for Manchester/Milton.
I also like that scene a lot, especially in terms of what's to follow, namely a long scene with Margaret and John. But I must admit I had a hard time understanding the girls' conversation at first. The transcript really comes in handy here!

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I also like that scene a lot, especially in terms of what's to follow, namely a long scene with Margaret and John


Yes and we've said before, we don't get enough scenes of just John and Margaret.

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7.50 pm

"Now's the time. We will all stop our machines at the end of the day, Friday, ten minutes before time. And no-one, no-one will start them up!"

The first indication was the sound; the high-pitched whine was gradually turning into a deeper drone. Then the speed of the transmission belts slackened and the frantic movement of the power looms slowed down, and eventually petered out. The workers abandoned their machines and left the mill in single file. No-one looked up.

And, at last, the gearwheel took its final turn and came to a halt.


Notch... by... notch.



Silence.

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Love it Birds!  Great job!!

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 Thank you, Lois.

For once I wanted to do a drabble that didn't end with a lot of 'drama'. 

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Another wonderful one Birds.  It must have been eerie when those machines fell silent.

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Yes, I  all the "sound" in the piece. You almost feel like you're in there, among the workers, beside the belts! 

"high-pitched whine"
"drone"
"speed"
"frantic"
"petered out"
"halt"
"Silence"


Just fantastic, Birds!  And excellent title too. Sooo creative!

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A limerick inspired by Lois’s latest story. 

Now Mason is a scrupulous man
Determined to do all he can
A man called Leonards is dead
And he heard rumours of Fred
So now he just needed a plan


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That was great, Laura!  You're soo good at limericks! 

Edit:
... and what a timely contribution! It's National Limerick Day today :
http://www.nationaldaycalendar.com/days-2/national-limerick-day-may-12/

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Thanks Birds. 

Edit:
... and what a timely contribution! It's National Limerick Day today :
http://www.nationaldaycalendar.com/days-2/national-limerick-day-may-12/


That is spooky!  I had no idea! 

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A limerick inspired by Lois’s latest story. 
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Love it Laura! 
And it timing of it......just brilliant!! 

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Love it Laura! 


I'm glad you liked it Lois. 

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Thank you again, Laura and Lois. 

I think it's wonderful how many different words the English language offers to descibe very similar things, in particular when it comes to perception.

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This actually started out as a couple of drabbles, but it seemed better together as a flash fiction. My first time at dialogue too...

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"The Orange Crush"

She took the orange, rolled it and gave it a slight squeeze between her fingers before bringing it to her nose for a good whiff. When she handed it to the grocer's assistant, he moved towards the counter to add to the pile of items collected there. Swiftly, she slipped another orange into her pocket hidden from his view. Purchases in hand, she walked out of the store and quickly moved down the street.

"I could charge you with theft, Mary Higgins," said a voice behind her.

Stopped in her tracks she stood quiet as a mouse, stunned to breathe.


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He moved surefootedly covering the space between them in two big steps until he was right in front of her. Unmistakable were the uniformed clothes and shoes that her heart dropped to the pit of her stomach.

It was the inspector.

Crikey; I'm done for.

Laden with guilt, she lowered her head, her eyes beginning to sting as they filled with tears. Her lower lip quivered.

"There's no need for a show now. I'll not take you to the station if...if you promise to answer the truth; plain and simple."

Tears rolled down her cheeks as Mary hesitatingly nodded.


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"Who was the man seen at the Hale house in Crampton a fortnight ago?" asked the inspector.

Fear now replaced her guilt. Mary felt like a bird trapped in the mouth of her prey as she struggled to form her thoughts, the voices and images from days past on silent play in her head. Her parched throat unable to swallow past the lump, burned.

"Come on; out with it. Quickly now. I've not got all day. Speak up!"

Shivers shot down her spine. Mary breathed after what seemed like the first time since she was stopped on this side street.


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Abandoned by choice she whispered, "I...Mr...'twas Mr Hale's son...Master Frederick."

"Why was he here? Speak up now!"

"He'd come to see him mum...before she died...sir," she choked on the words, unable to focus on her dirt-covered tattered shoes.

"Where is he now?"

"Sp...Spain," she begrudgingly confessed.

"In Spain? What's he doing there? Well?"

"Dunno sir," she cried. "Him that were over...please, sir...'twas only an orange...for 'em Boucher little ones mouths," she sobbed.

"If I catch you stealing again, Mary Higgins, straight to the station it'll be; you understand now?"

"Yes sir."


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Mary wiped her reddened, tear-streaked cheeks onto her dirty sleeve. She waited until the inspector's steps were swallowed by the distance before she could find her feet again. She flew out of town as fast as she could, her betrayed heart thundering as she climbed up the hill. Overwhelmed once again, she fell beside her sister's grave and heaved through the freely flowing tears. How could he be so cruel to get it out of her? How could she have done this to Ms Hale who had been nothing but kind to her family? Would her confession ever be forgivable?

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Just wow!Love your dialogues, Lois!!! Great work there.  

And now you've made me really curious, Lois (quite apart from Mary's own questions at the end). How does Inspector Mason know Mary Higgins? And why does he know about a man staying at the Hales' house?

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Totally forgot to say: I love the title "The Orange Crush" 🍊

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That was fabulous Lois.  Wonderful dialogue. Poor Mary. I felt so sorry for her. Your inspector is very authoritive.

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Awww.... Bless you!  Thank you both soo much for saying so! 🙏 I was quite anxious about the dialogue. Glad it went alright then. I forgot about "pants" though. LOL! Corrected now. 

How does Inspector Mason know Mary Higgins?
He was spying on the house (from my drabble "Surveillance"), remember? I think he saw Mary go in and out the house a few times and after asking around or perhaps even following her, figured she was Nicholas's daughter. And I think he was following her this time too.
And why does he know about a man staying at the Hales' house
Well, this I think was a hunch on his part. If this man seen with Ms Hale at the station and connected with the Leonards death had stayed at the house and Mary was intimately connected to the family, then perhaps she might know something about the man too? He asked about the man in that way to get Mary to spill the beans on whatever she might have known. And he got lucky!

Though I believe that Inspector Mason is a clever fellow Birds, who would have been able to piece things together based on circumstances and evidence. So I gave him some time to do his investigation; and so I believe, that he might have concluded that perhaps this man was being harboured by the Hales for some other crime before the (unfortunate) Leonards incident.
Totally forgot to say: I love the title "The Orange Crush" 🍊.
Thank you Birds. The titles are weird for me. LOL!

Poor Mary. I felt so sorry for her. Your inspector is very authoritive.
I think he has to be, right Laura, to be good at his job and all.  But I think he's a good man too. In fact, I think he might have felt sorry for her when she mentioned the Boucher children. Yes, and I feel sorry for Mary too. Her heart was in the right place. And she's definitely a good girl. 

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Thank you for all the explanations, Lois. They do make perfect sense... Of course I remembered your previous drabble "Surveillance", only it didn't occur to me that Mary might still come to the house even with Mrs Hale dead--but then, why shouldn't she?--and so I didn't make the connection.

... She waited until the inspector's steps were swallowed by the distance before she could find her feet again. She flew out of town as fast as she could, her betrayed heart thundering as she climbed up the hill. Overwhelmed once again, she fell beside her sister's grave and heaved through the freely flowing tears...
Absolutely lovely writing there, Lois!  Poor Mary, caught between a rock and a hard place. 

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Aww...bless you Birds! 🙏 Thanks again. 

To be honest, that line hasn't been changed since I put it down except, I had changed it from "mother's" to "sister's" grave after I posted (it is better this way, I think). Otherwise, I was surprised by how that bit just flowed from me. But at the moment, it is quite challenging to write anything longer than a chapter. I'm totally in awe of how you flesh out your stories.

I think it's wonderful how many different words the English language offers to descibe very similar things, in particular when it comes to perception.
It's wonderful. You and Laura continue to be inspiring in your writing, be it prose or poetry.  I love our little collection, both the volumes. 

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To be honest, that line hasn't been changed since I put it down except, I had changed it from "mother's" to "sister's" grave after I posted (it is better this way, I think). Otherwise, I was surprised by how that bit just flowed from me. But at the moment, it is quite challenging to write anything longer than a chapter. I'm totally in awe of how you flesh out your stories.
I noticed the change and thought it was a good decision; Bessie would be more in her mind at that moment. As for 'fleshing out stories'; it gets easier after a while. I remember that in the beginning my characters all tended to stand by the window looking out a lot ... and I might still not have erased as many of these instances as I should.  And in terms of coming up with little additional bits and pieces... I find that writing odd little scenes out of sequence (with no particular thought where--or if--they fit in later) helps.

But don't you worry, Lois. You're doing a wonderful job there , and I'm looking forward to many more of your stories in the future. 

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This must be the chilliest and wettest beginning of August in ages--let's heat the atmosphere with a round of haiku. Here comes...


August heat. A mob
groups. Tempers rise, boil over.
Grab a stone and--strike!

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Good one Birds.  A strike in more ways than one.

I'm a bit out of practice.

John offers a bloom.
A fragile glimpse of a home
that was hers no more

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Awe, yes!  This scene always gives me a warm feeling, Laura.  Well done!

I'm a bit out of practice.
Me too. It has been a while.

For my next haiku I've actually thought along the same lines as you, Laura... Earlier that day, at Helstone:


Meadows drunk with warmth,
Drenched in golden light. Bees buzz.
A fair rose beckons.

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Nice work, ladies! 

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Lovely one Birds. 

Stunned into silence
by angry beauty he saw
in swirling cotton

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Thank you both, Laura and Alfa. 

Stunned into silence
by angry beauty he saw
in swirling cotton
...A silence accompanied by a glowering look.  Nicely done, Laura. 

I was tempted to fit in 'smouldering' in my next one but... too many syllables.


White tie, silky gowns
Eyes lock in the crowd. Hands touch
A soft word. Aflame

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Brilliant Birds.  'Aflame' - wonderful descriptive word. 

Her heart numbed with grief
Leaving Milton behind her
Never to return.

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💔 Aww... so sad, but lovely, Laura.  I like how your haiku tend to have a proper structure, rather like a sentence. Mine are a bit 'hodgepodge', generally...


Walking up the hill.
Below, Milton hides in haze.
Dirty, smoky, blurred.

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I like how your haiku tend to have a proper structure, rather like a sentence. Mine are a bit 'hodgepodge', generally...


I think yours are the correct way they should be done.  I love how wonderfully descriptive they are.

Lost in thought she walked.
Her footsteps echoing through
the quiet empty mill


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Another really nice one, Laura.  I do like the way you do yours... and I think it's great that we've all got our different styles.

... and now the sun's out and it's getting warmer by the hour. Invoking summer by haiku--it works! 

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and I think it's great that we've all got our different styles.




... and now the sun's out and it's getting warmer by the hour. Invoking summer by haiku--it works! 


It certainly does. It's the same here. Very warm and sunny today.

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Great work, you two. And I love your different styles!

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I LOVE these Haikus!   Great job ladies!! 



Supple leather gloves
forgotten atop table -
delicate hands stroke

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Lois! Lovely haiku  Those gloves! 

And thank you for dropping by and joining in--the more the merrier.  We've been missing you and your 'monster posts', Lois... hope things get more quiet for you soon, and that you'll be able to check in more often again.




A porch. Dressed for tea
with a sceptical beauty.
A tentative smile.

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Wonderful one Lois.  And again from you Birds.  Love that little smile.

Arrived full of hope.
Left rejected and alone
Now broken-hearted.



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Arrived full of hope
Left rejected and alone
Now broken-hearted.

Poor John  He should have remembered that she doesn't care for his 'Northern ways'.

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The Cravat Vignettes (A mini-series)

Part 1 | Red Cravat


Love it Birds.  John 'flying his colours'. Are you doing a story for each cravat? 

Speaking of that scene. I was thinking of it as well after your last Haiku. So carrying it on and borrowing the word you were thinking of using in an earlier one. 

Smouldering glances.
A bracelet rises and falls.
Fingers gently touch



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Part 1 | Red Cravat


Thunder rolled. Lady Luck rolling her dice, his father had called it, and then he had laughed. His carefree, frivolous father. Before everything had changed.

Having entered his bedroom in a rush Thornton stopped dead for a moment, suddenly tripped up by this unbidden memory. Then, with an irritated jerk of his head, he shrugged it off. Not now. He was late as it was.

He impatiently tugged at his plain black cravat. His waistcoat, already unbuttoned on his way up, came next; he shrugged out of it and pulled off his shirt. Just before hurrying upstairs, upon coming in from the yard, he had handed over his coat to Jane and briskly ordered her to brush it at once, to get rid of the lint clinging to it after a day at the mill. He would be ready to go out again in an instant.

He was about to grab a fresh shirt when he saw his reflection in the mirror. It was late in the day... He needed a shave. His hand pressed against the side of the ewer on the washstand. Still warm. It would do.

While he lathered his face with soap and carefully navigated the plains of his face with a cut-throat razor, his thoughts wandered to the evening ahead of him. Tea at the Hales' place in Crampton.

Earlier that day he had told his mother that he would need to come in and change before going to visit them, and she had scoffed at the idea. He had smiled at her vehemence and had pointed out that the Hales were gentlefolk, and due some consideration. Whereupon his mother had just looked at him with her eyebrows raised.

"Don't worry, Mother," had been his sarcastic reply, "I'm in no danger from Miss Hale. She's very unlikely to consider me a catch. She's from the South. She doesn't care for our Northern ways."

Now he wondered what had made him say such a thing. Both his previous interactions with Miss Hale had been quite unfortunate, or rather... disastrous. He still winced at the thought of her witnessing his loss of temper that day at the mill. Yes, she must have thought him a barbarian. And the second time he met her, at her father's study, hadn't been that much better; striving for aloofness he felt he had only achieved to be defensive and uncouth. Other than that they had only seen each other in passing since then, and never exchanged more than a nod.

Not a gentleman, her eyes had said, every single time.

Forcefully he rinsed off the last traces of soap, splashing some water on the floor. It vexed him that he gave her so much thought. What was it his mother had called Margaret Hale? A renegade clergyman's daughter... What would a girl like her, with her sheltered upbringing, know about his life? And what right had she to judge him, indeed?

He donned his shirt, and then his hand hovered over one of his plain black cravats, hesitating. No! He might not be a gentleman in Miss Hale's eyes but he could at least dress as one, he thought defiantly. Anyway, he wouldn't visit to see her but go there at her father's invitation, for a pleasant evening of animated conversation amongst educated men.

Thornton took one final look in the mirror before he left the room. Silk waistcoat, Sunday-best frockcoat, and... burgundy cravat. Too much of a red rag? he wondered briefly. No matter, he would fly his colours.

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Coming soon: Part 2 | White Cravat (... or any other cravat that comes to mind)

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Thank you for the praise in your above post, Laura. 

Are you doing a story for each cravat? 
Nothing planned and nothing written as yet (not even on the white cravat ). There are a couple of different cravats at iconic moments in the story, so the idea of doing a set of vignettes has its appeal... but anyone can chime in and do a part of it if they like, of course!

Smouldering glances
A bracelet rises and falls
Fingers gently touch

Lovely new haiku, Laura.  I so much love the bracelet moment (in the book).

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There are a couple of different cravats at iconic moments in the story, so the idea of doing a set of vignettes has its appeal... but anyone can chime in and do a part of it if they like, of course!


Yes, it's a wonderful and original idea. Stories are a bit beyond me but I will have to try and think up a cravat haiku or limerick. I don't think I've done one of those.

Lovely new haiku, Laura.  I so much love the bracelet moment (in the book).


Thanks Birds. Yes, I cheated a bit there and added the bracelet moment from the book to the teacup scene for my haiku.

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John always looked good in his hat,
even better in his cravat.
Be it red or white
he always looked right
and never once looked like a prat.

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I love it, Laura  You've done it again! #QueenOfLimericks 

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Thanks Birds. 

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Part 2 | White Cravat


Another six hours to go before the guests were due to arrive, and she was fed up already. Dinner parties! she thought scornfully, What's in it for us servants, anyway?

Earlier that morning the boxes of new clothes had arrived. Miss Fanny's gown, and some stuff for the master. The missus had decided to wear the dress from the previous year, but with a slightly altered neckline, and supplemented by a different, more elaborate (yet still jet, of course) necklace. There was that to be said about black; people were unlikely to take much notice of the actual style of the garment--just as long as it was evening dress.

Miss Fanny, now... She had gone to some lengths with her new gown; blue silk, and lots of frills. No matter how carefully wrapped upon arrival, there had been some creases which had needed the best part of an hour to see to. Done now, and on to the next task! Jane abstractedly sucked her finger, sporting a new burn from the flatiron, as she hurried on along the corridor to the master bedroom.

She would be unlikely to get more than a glimpse at their guests during the evening. A second footman was hired for the occasion. No matter that she helped with serving the family dinners--and very proficiently so--on every other day of the year, even at Christmas. She would only do all the fetching and carrying between the basement kitchen and the service hatch next to the dining room... which meant that she would be away from the kitchen, too, and missing the chance to have first choice on the leftovers. Even the under-maids would have gorged themselves before she could take her pick. But then, maybe Cook would set aside a little something in exchange of some salacious gossip; she must keep her eyes and ears open whenever lingering near the hatch--them below stairs would want to have their share in Milton tittle-tattle.

After all, rumour was akin to hard currency in the servants' world.

She perfunctorily tapped and entered her master's bedroom in one motion. The knock was more of a habit; he wouldn't generally be in at that time of day. Like most of the family's private rooms (except for Miss Fanny's), this one was a bit of a disappointment... nicely sized but plainly, almost frugally, furnished.

Jane caught her reflection in the looking glass and patted her hair, then turned to the bed where a couple of cardboard boxes were waiting, all of them rather small. Like his mother, Mr Thornton had decided against a new suit. Maybe there was something in the rumours that Marlborough Mills was hit particularly hard by the ongoing strike? Jane vaguely wondered what this might mean for her...

A couple of dress shirts... Right, she would take them down to the laundry maid for ironing; plain ironing could very well be done by someone lower in rank.

A new waistcoat... Now, that was nice--cream-coloured silk. She wondered if the master had chosen it himself. He would have an eye for good fabric, having been a draper's assistant at one time. Not that she was meant to know that particular tidbit. The missus would never ever have breathed a word about their humble origins. However, Miss Fanny was not always discreet... slip of the tongue in that quarter a while back. But, my!--how embarrassed she had been afterwards. Miss Fanny had literally blushed a beetroot red. I wonder if there's more to it? An actual scandal?

And finally, the cravat... A light beige, of course. But... pleated? How peculiar.

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He stood in front of the full length mirror, straightening out the folds in his cravat. White tie night; the stiff pleated material felt unfamiliar.

This was a long way from how he usually dressed. He wasn't a snappy dresser. In his day-to-day life he wore his clothes like a uniform. Not a dress uniform, more like combat gear. Utilitarian. Stern, dark and plain; in testimony of his authority.

Now, this was like dress uniform; and the night might well turn into a battle of wits amongst his many attending business rivals. On balance, what was this dinner party other than a show of strength in the world of cotton trade?

Except that it wasn't. Not entirely. Because... she would be there.

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Part 2 | White Cravat


Nice twist to have Jane's perspective before the dinner party. 

And finally, the cravat... A light beige, of course. But... pleated? How peculiar.


How come I never noticed it was pleated? LOL!

Wonderful again Birds. 

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Awww... thanks, Laura. And you too, Lois. 

I don't know where this idea will take me... As yet, I'm simply writing down stuff at the spur of the moment, and posting it straight after. Anyway, everyone is very welcome to join in. 

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re 'White Cravat'...

How come I never noticed it was pleated? LOL!

Actually, upon a recent re-watch I realised that JT wears a dark (purple or black) calla lily as a boutonniere, which seems a rather exotic choice... Any ideas about this, ladies?

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Actually, upon a recent re-watch I realised that JT wears a dark (purple or black) calla lily as a boutonniere, which seems a rather exotic choice... Any ideas about this, ladies?


This one?

http://tinyurl.com/jhmdx4g

I never noticed it before. It does sound exotic. I don't know much about flowers. I found this site about what calla lilies represent. I can't make out the colour of the one John is wearing from that pic, but it says black carry a certain elegance and mystery and purple denotes passion. Very apt for JT. 

http://www.teleflora.com/blog/what-do-calla-lilies-represent/

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I haven't read your story yet, Birds (jumping from kitchen to computer here but I'll get to it in a few minutes!), but it's an interesting observation about the calla lily. (Missed that detail in spite of multiple viewings...)

And "mystery" is right. To me, calla lilies have always represented death and funerals so in that way I can see them being in stock at your local florist, but in dirty, smokey Milton? Surely this wasn't an oversight. 

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'Mystery' and 'passion' both work very well for me in that context... though I can't really see JT send that kind of message by 'flower mail' 

Actually, I love calla lilies, and I never connected them with funerals (over here carnations are typical funeral flowers; but even so, they're frequently used as buttonhole flowers, too--on the rare occasions that men actually wear them...)

I haven't read your story yet, Birds--
No worries, Alfa... it's nothing much, really. Haven't really got the time and mindset to write just now...

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Actually, upon a recent re-watch I realised that JT wears a dark (purple or black) calla lily as a boutonniere, which seems a rather exotic choice... Any ideas about this, ladies?
Excellent catch there Birds!  Here is another look at it: http://tinyurl.com/j5npcv8

Yes, the calla lily does seem rather an exotic choice for this party, doesn't it? And it does look purple to me. Hmmm....(yup, definitely purple: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/1c/da/68/1cda681768086dc64abd4dec42340c34.jpg ... is that a twig though?? I don't think Victorian boutonniere's had twigs or leaves did they? Must look it up. Makes me wonder if it is something else entirely. I wonder if it is a microphone made to look like a boutonniere. Hmmm...) Very interesting indeed. Thanks for bringing this to our attention Birds! 

Like Alfa, calla lilies for me too represent death and are seen typically during funerals. And here it is also quite popular during Easter too (thanks for the link Laura!) .

Actually, I've often wondered about the exact occasion for this celebration in particular? Doesn't Mr Bell tells us that it happens on the exact date every year come rain or shine? Soooo, I had thought it was perhaps to commemorate the day they came out of debt. Or something to that effect i.e. death of the old life, birth of a new one...etc. The choice of the calla lily here would make sense then including the colour! 

Even thought at one point it was perhaps to celebrate JT's birthday! But I always ruled that out somehow. I'm still surprised that I hadn't noticed this boutonniere before! LOL. But could these be plausible reasons above be why JT would wear one in his lapel? 

Also, the only other person to wear a boutonniere was Watson, on his wedding day of course. http://tinyurl.com/hvozzey

Interesting to note that on this occasion, JT is not wearing one: http://tinyurl.com/zs5d6ba

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I looked up the meaning of calla lilies with regard to the 'Victorian Language of Flowers', and there it's generally 'Magnificent Beauty'.

Right. So what could be the point of wearing a flower with such a meaning? Unless JT had an idea of giving it away to a certain lady in the course of the evening... which made me wonder if you do give away a buttonhole flower . Well, at least according to this blog here you can... http://www.artofmanliness.com/2010/07/09/boutonniere-buttonhole/

So... Always the boy scout, is JT? 



As for the occasion of the dinner party, and why it takes place on exactly the same date every year... I don't think it's because of a birthday, there doesn't seem much birthday celebrating going on in the 19th century, telling by the novels, at least. So my best guess would be that the party was to commemorate the anniversary of Thornton taking over Marlborough Mills. 

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Right. So what could be the point of wearing a flower with such a meaning?
I don't know what the significance of that particular flower and its colour meant (ETA: http://www.flowermeaning.com/calla-lily-meaning/ - Dark purple for royalty and strength) or why JT wore one on that occasion, but from a bit of online reading, rest assured that the boutonniere was part of the complete Victorian attire of a gentleman, certainly for that time frame according to these links:

Beginning in the 1830s and continuing on throughout the century, the boutonniere prevailed as the mark of a well-dressed man. According to Alan Flusser, “the wearing of a lapel flower was a symbol of gracious living, a tribute to the lady on your arm, as well as to your host or hostess.”[25] For some, the buttonhole flower retained special meaning, symbolizing a love of nature and an endorsement of seemingly lost Romantic ideals; even “taking on a symbolic—almost quasi-religious—importance in certain circles.”[26] Regardless of one’s political commitments or aspersions, the boutonniere allowed for a spark of color and individuality despite the overwhelming dark and homogenous nature of men’s formal wear during this time period.
https://www.finetuxedos.com/formalwearguide/history/early-victorian-era-1837-1850/#_ftn25

Even before 1840, there were a number of men wearing boutonnieres through their buttonhole. We already mentioned Captain William Wade above and this drawing was created at around 1820. Note how the boutonniere stem comes through the buttonhole.
https://www.gentlemansgazette.com/how-the-boutonniere-buttonhole-came-into-the-lapel/

I find this drawing interesting: http://www.blacktieguide.com/History/1800s_Victorian/1848_practical_guide_plate_V_Crop.jpg
These two men seem to be holding a pocket square/handkerchief and a flower respectively in their hands, which perhaps at one point made up part of their own attire and now perhaps like you said above Birds, they have it in their hands now to give it to a potential love interest? - maybe one of the ladies reflected in the mirror perhaps?? LOL. 

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So my best guess would be that the party was to commemorate the anniversary of Thornton taking over Marlborough Mills. 


That would be my guess as well Birds. It would explain why Mrs T always holds it on the exact same date because it would mean a lot to her

Interesting to note that on this occasion, JT is not wearing one: http://tinyurl.com/zs5d6ba


Well spotted Lois. You would have thought he would have worn one here, as this is traditionally an occasion when boutonnieres are worn.

Going back to our speculating about Henry returning back to London and what he would tell the family, also what we were discussing in another thread about how Hannah and Margaret would get on after John and Margaret married. I think that ‘North and South’ is a story with so much more to tell. That is probably why it inspires so much fanfic. I often wonder how the family would manage during the Lancashire Cotton Famine.

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So my best guess would be that the party was to commemorate the anniversary of Thornton taking over Marlborough Mills. 

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That would be my guess as well Birds. It would explain why Mrs T always holds it on the exact same date because it would mean a lot to her
Well, wouldn't Mr Bell know about that date then because he was leasing the mill to JT? Hmm ... maybe he doesn't remember (why would he really, eh).

Still, seems to me it has to be bigger than that. That's why I think it is something else; that why I thought it was perhaps a celebration in remembrance of the day they paid of all their debts owning from when his father died. I think Mrs T would always remember that day! The end of the old life and the start of the new one with the purple calla lily in particular symbolizing strength ...  I wish we could ask the costume designer why they picked this for JT.

I think that ‘North and South’ is a story with so much more to tell. That is probably why it inspires so much fanfic. I often wonder how the family would manage during the Lancashire Cotton Famine.
I read something yesterday about this Laura. The article said that it the language and the interactions between the love interests in the various meetings throughout the course of the novel that give us an idea of what their marriage would be like especially in the typical Victorian novel that ends the way N&S does. LOL. I personally don't think this means that their relationship is going to be contentious because now they (and this includes Mrs T too) understand each other better and are free from their past prejudices.

Regarding the cotton famine, I honestly don't wish for JT to go into the cotton business again, at least certainly not in the capacity that he once was as mill master. I hope that he enters politics myself and helps out the workers and the poor through factory reforms and labour law reform etc.

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Still, seems to me it has to be bigger than that. That's why I think it is something else; that why I thought it was perhaps a celebration in remembrance of the day they paid of all their debts owning from when his father died. I think Mrs T would always remember that day!

No doubt Hannah would always remember that day, but I don't think she'd ever publicly celebrate coming out of debt... imo she wouldn't ever celebrate anything so directly connected with the family scandal / shame. 

I personally don't think this means that their relationship is going to be contentious because now they (and this includes Mrs T too) understand each other better and are free from their past prejudices.

Totally agree.  Except... I suppose it will take a little longer between Mrs T and Margaret to end up on good terms, and I think it will not ever be entirely amiable, but that they'll respect and learn to rely on each other (as I said just recently in another thread, more or less)

I honestly don't wish for JT to go into the cotton business again, at least certainly not in the capacity that he once was as mill master. I hope that he enters politics myself and helps out the workers and the poor through factory reforms and labour law reform etc.

That's an interesting idea, Lois, and I can very well see JT do that, though possibly not at once... 

He'd feel too much responsibility for his workers to neglect them by not bringing back Marlborough Mills into business as soon as he's got the means to do so; also, much of Margaret's wealth is actually tied in with the mill, so it's in his own best interests to get going asap.

And then, Thornton might like to try out a few more of his ideas on industrial reforms by putting them into practice in his own mill. I think he likes this 'hands-on' approach, and getting feedback from his workers...

But after a couple of years, if things are running smoothly and his ideas caught on, I can see him find a capable manager and then move on into politics himself. 

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He'd feel too much responsibility for his workers to neglect them by not bringing back Marlborough Mills into business as soon as he's got the means to do so; also, much of Margaret's wealth is actually tied in with the mill, so it's in his own best interests to get going asap.

And then, Thornton might like to try out a few more of his ideas on industrial reforms by putting them into practice in his own mill. I think he likes this 'hands-on' approach, and getting feedback from his workers...

But after a couple of years, if things are running smoothly and his ideas caught on, I can see him find a capable manager and then move on into politics himself. 


Yes, I agree that he would feel a responsibility to his workers to get the mill going again. But I can imagine him maybe moving into politics later on.  It's hard to believe that Manchester had no representation in Parliament until 1832.

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... but I don't think she'd ever publicly celebrate coming out of debt... imo she wouldn't ever celebrate anything so directly connected with the family scandal / shame.
Hmm...I dunno Birds. You're probably right of course. But I didn't think anyone else would know the real reason for the celebration anyway. It would be just between her and her son.

And it's not the connection to the debts they'd be forced to remember but the resilience it took for them to overcome it (especially since it was not of their own choosing) that would supersede their shame and loss. I can see that as a cause for celebration and I can see Hannah celebrating that for some reason...the day her son made her proud. 

... also, much of Margaret's wealth is actually tied in with the mill, so it's in his own best interests to get going asap.
Is it? 

Do you think John accepted her offer then?? I honestly didn't think John would take the money.  I always saw it differently I guess. It was the fact that she offered though when he needed it the most, that is what mattered to him and made him realize that she loves him. That's how I always saw it to be honest. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that John would take her money like that. 

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Do you think John accepted her offer then?? I honestly didn't think John would take the money. 
But what else could he do instead, Lois? What would he live on? I can't see him as a gentleman-of-leisure, living entirely on his future wife's money while campaigning for an election as MP (which may never happen btw), and let the mill go hang in the meantime...

IIRC there was a bank loan which was due (it had been extended only temporarily), so if he doesn't take some of Margaret's money he--or the bank--will put up the (still fairly new) machinery for auction to pay off the mortgage... leaving Margaret with a non-operational mill--remember, she owns the property by inheritance; it's part of her fortune, and we don't know what big a part besides the £15,000 profits from the speculation. What is she supposed to do with it in that case? And wouldn't Margaret want to get the mill going again asap, so that her friends the workers, Nicholas and Mary among them, have an income again? No-one else is likely to give Nicholas another job, after all... 

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I can't imagine them waiting long to get married, so the money would all be John's then anyway wouldn't it?

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I can't imagine them waiting long to get married, so the money would all be John's then anyway wouldn't it?
 This is for sure but I just didn't think he'd use it towards opening the mill again. 

But what else could he do instead, Lois? What would he live on? I can't see him as a gentleman-of-leisure, living entirely on his future wife's money while campaigning for an election as MP (which may never happen btw), and let the mill go hang in the meantime...
Well, Birds, I thought he would still take up the offer he had in the book even in the series i.e still working in a mill helping out the master but not opening up the mill again and becoming master himself. It is too much of a stressful life and too risky business as well. There is a lot to lose especially since the Cotton industry is at its peak right then. They did talk about cotton being cheaper in America and how people were moving out to seek out opportunities there. So that gives us an indication of how tough it was that time especially in that city. Not to mention the fires and famines.

Besides, he already failed once and like you said he has loans owing to the bank. I would hope he would try to sell whatever machinery he could and pay off his debts. Perhaps that is what he'll use M's money towards rather than towards opening the now boarded mill again. Or perhaps he will let the bank auction it off anyway. How many months has it been since it's been shut? It should be some time so I think Nicholas and friends would make arrangements either to find different employment or move to another town. I didn't think they would open the mill soon, at least not until it was rented to a new tenant, perhaps even sold to a new buyer. Now John will have more control with the freedom that comes with M's inheritance money and can explore other opportunities at the same time.

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Interesting ideas, Lois, and I must admit this never crossed my mind... especially since none of what JT expresses in chapter 51 ever seemed to indicate to me that he'd readily turn his back on being a mill master... But I'd very much like to see how your ideas work out, Lois. 

Maybe you should start to write your version of a sequel to N&S? 

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Interesting ideas, Lois, and I must admit this never crossed my mind... especially since none of what JT expresses in chapter 51 ever seemed to indicate to me that he'd readily turn his back on being a mill master.


It never crossed my mind either. I always thought that was because he had no other choice at that time. And I suppose that was his only option in the TV Series as well. I can't see him choosing to be an employee if he has a chance to save the mill and be a master again. Certainly Margaret must have thought that when she made her offer, even though she overheard his conversation with Colthurst.

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Part 3 | Black Cravat


How often had he stood in front of that looking glass in the last years?--in a moment of indecision and insecurity, regarding his mirror image, and wondering if the man he saw reflected there would hold strong in the forthcoming events.

He had dismissed the notion of dressing up for the occasion. No, she should see him for the man he was... A manufacturer, a working man. Simple, maybe uncouth. But a man of his own making. Someone who had determined his own fate against the odds.

And now he was to determine his fate again. By leaving the decision of what happiness his future might hold entirely in the hands of a proud, unwilling girl... How could it have come to this?

The knot of his plain black cravat suddenly felt too tight, choking him.

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Part 4 | Chequered Cravat


"John. About the wedding..." Hannah Thornton stood in the doorway.

Her son looked up from the ledger he was working on. "Yes?" he said, his face a blank.

"Which one will you wear?"

It was only then that he registered the strips of silk fabric she held over her arm. "You choose," he replied with a sigh. "Anything to make me blend in with the decoration--"

Hannah stepped into the room, closing the door behind her. "John--What is it?"

"Nothing really... Just a little weary of things, perhaps." It should have been his wedding! Months ago...

"Do you think that we're making too grand an occasion?"

"No, of course not... Fanny should have the kind of wedding that does justice to her future situation in life--"

"--even though we can't really afford it, you mean?"

"It's not this wedding that might break our necks, Mother. The dice were cast a long time ago." He slammed his fist at the table, then sighed. "That damn strike last summer!" Ever since that strike his life had veered off track. His business--initially thriving--had been hit at its most vulnerable moment, and was struggling and staggering under the ensuing recession in the cotton trade ever since. "At times this feels like fighting wind mills." He gave her a wan smile. "Sometimes I wish I could turn back time, to before the strike..."

"Wouldn't we all much rather?" They both were quiet for a while.

"How are the Hales these days?" John suddenly asked. "I haven't seen Mr Hale in a while--"

"The Hales?" his mother said, but the way she carefully avoided catching his eye told him that she was well aware that his sister's approaching nuptials had brought on the thought of them. Of her. Margaret. The minx. "They are well enough, from what I've heard," she said curtly. Case dismissed. "Anyway, I'll better get on... What about the cravats, then?"

"Mother. Why Watson?"

"What... what do you mean?" His mother seemed flustered by this direct approach.

"Why did Fanny choose to accept his proposal? And don't tell me that she was in love with him!"

"I didn't put any pressure on her, if that's what you think, John. It was her choice entirely!"

"Then why? Why choose--at nineteen!--to spend the rest of her life with such a man? I know him, after all. I've been dealing with him for years now in the business--"

"Oh, he's quite affable with her... I genuinely believe that he has a soft spot for her. And as for Fanny... affection can grow within a marriage. It does, often enough."

"So tell me, Mother. What was the real attraction for her, do you think?"

"Well, John, to be honest, I believe she was a little tired of the two of us being utterly engrossed in mill business for such al long time now. The Great Exhibition gave her a glimpse of the life she wished for, and which we were neither willing nor prepared to give her. So she has gone and taken her chances elsewhere... Anyway, Fanny will be secure now, whatever the future holds--which is a comfort."

"If you say so, Mother," he evenly replied.

Hannah heaved a sigh, then turned towards the door. "About the wedding--" She held up the cravats still dangling from her arm.

"The chequered one, then," he said with a lopsided smile. "I suppose, 'chequered' fits this wedding very well."

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'I've been staying at their house till I was driven out of it by the perpetual clack about that Thornton girl's marriage. It was too much for Thornton himself, though she was his sister. He used to go and sit in his own room perpetually. He's getting past the age for caring for such things, either as principal or accessory. I was surprised to find the old lady falling into the current, and carried away by her daughter's enthusiasm for orange-blossoms and lace. I thought Mrs. Thornton had been made of sterner stuff.'

Mr Bell (chapter 44 'Ease Not Peace')

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Just wonderful again Birds.  Loved them both. Brilliant last lines they both had as well. 

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Part 5 | No Cravat


As the train screeched to a halt the elderly gentleman, who had shared the train compartment with him over the last hour, picked up his belongings and turned towards the door, giving him one final scandalised look.

He had come undone; and he knew he looked it.

He felt raw, like shedding skin... and he wasn't yet certain what kind of man was emerging from the remains of his former life.

The things that could have been...

All day long, ever since hearing the truth about her, he had been through a maelstrom of emotions but now he had come out on the other side. Bereaved but calm. And he found that he was grateful, for having known this one great passion--this love--even though, with everything that stood between them, it could never come true any longer.

He saw that his erstwhile travel companion had given the door a careless push, and the latch hadn't caught. Now it stood open.

With a sigh he rose to shut it. He leaned out to reach for the handle. Then he saw her--standing right in front of him on the platform, her luminous eyes upon him. Entranced.

Like a man in a dream he stepped out on the platform and approached her.

Time and distance ceased to exist. There was only the present--and her presence.

Margaret


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Thanks Alfa. Glad you liked it. 

Part 5 | No Cravat


Wonderful Birds. 

Like a man in a dream he stepped out on the platform and approached her.
Time and distance ceased to exist.

There was only the present--and her presence.

Margaret

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Just beautiful 

ETA: I think we posted at the same time Birds. Thanks for your kind words. 


There's something remarkably inspiring about these cravat (or cravatless) moments. 


Definitely. We were both inspired by the final cravatless moment there. 

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Loved that one too, Birds. ("No Cravat"") Bravo! 

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Wow, Birds. I missed this until now. It fills in the story beautifully.

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Thank you, Thomas. I'm happy you enjoyed it. 

I loved writing those, and when I started with the first one I wouldn't have expected that there were quite so many cravat stories 'in it'.

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YESSS!!! 👍

http://www.frockflicks.com/top-five-bow-ties-period-flicks/

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YESSS!!! 👍


 It's funny, I don't think of what JT wears as bow-ties.

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Still on the subject of cravats. I just saw this on twitter. 

https://twitter.com/JaneAustenBath/status/795600551878807552

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Awe thanks, Laura  Lots of eye candy. 

... and for me it's a tie between RA and RPJ... 

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... and for me it's a tie between RA and RPJ... 


Nah RPJ doesn't come close to RA for me, too bland looking, although I did like his Wentworth. No Matthew Macfadyen? It always amuses me that those three have all played cravat wearing literary heroes on screen and also MI5 agents in Spooks.

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 ... 'it's a tie'... so much for me trying to come up with a clever pun. 

Anyway, although I really like RPJ's looks as Captain Wentworth (don't much mind him as Adam Carter in Spooks either), I definitely do prefer RA as well, lookswise. Now, Matthew MacFayden... He doesn't quite 'cut the mustard' as Darcy IMHO 

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... 'it's a tie'... so much for me trying to come up with a clever pun. 


Sorry Birds. I was a bit slow on the uptake there.  Alfa would have got that immediately. 

Now, Matthew MacFayden... He doesn't quite 'cut the mustard' as Darcy IMHO 


I didn't mind him. But I suppose Colin Firth is a hard act to follow.

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Still on the subject of cravats. I just saw this on twitter. 

https://twitter.com/JaneAustenBath/status/795600551878807552
This is wonderful! Thanks Laura. Lovely to see RA and Toby Stephens in this list. 

But let me throw in these guys as well: https://goo.gl/images/X1fxnA

I much prefer Rhys over MacFayden myself.

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But let me throw in these guys as well: https://goo.gl/images/X1fxnA


Thanks Lois. More good looking men in cravats. I just love that picture. I can't help wondering what they are laughing at.

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