Still got the light-skin chicks playing love interest huh...
I thought that was played out. Guess we still got that mentality.
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How much darker do you want the supporting cast to be? They're not exactly blonde-hair, blue-eyed.
Get over yourself.
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Are u kiddin me, hell as far as I'm concerned we need more interracial couples on screen. Forget the light-skinned girls and just go the full nine and get a white girl or Asian or latina chicks!
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They are from the south, in the south the fair skinned girl is prefered over the darkskinned girl. But it makes it more realistic.. during the 1930s and 40s the lightskinned people were more popular in the entertainment industry.
When will the time come when we won't notice...and it won't be an issue.
Now wait a minute,I think you meant to say...."In the south, the fair skinned girl is preferred over the dark skinned girl....IN THE 1940's"
shareTo whoever said that in the South, light-skinned females are preferred over dark-skinned, you must be crazy. I'm from here and most people I know prefer dark-skinned chocolate females with full afrocentric features over light skinned, white-lookin heffers. Only the odd balls prefer light-skinned females.
shareReally.... and what part of the south are you in?
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Not to be rude, but I think he (or she) was talking about what goes on in the black communities today. In the early part of the 20th century, light-skinned black people (especially females) were seen as "wealthy, intelligent, attractive, and were more likely to be popular". There were a lot of cases where some of them even tried to pass for White. In contrast, Dark-skinned black people were often seen as the exact opposite. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, but you didn't see them a lot in those days. There were orgaizations, camps, and clubs that excluded darker-skinned blacks simply because of their color.
Even in the early days of the Black Greek Fraternities and Sororities, you were NOT allowed to join if you were DARKER than a brown paper bag (even if you had all the other requirements to join).
Just about all of this colorism in the black community started back in the days of slavery. Most of the house slaves were light-skinned while the ones in the fields were darker-skinned. Along the way, the house slaves started to have this complex to where they believed that they were better than their darker-skinned brothers & sisters. Sadly, this type of complex still exists not only in Hollywood movies, TV shows, & music videos, but in a lot of aspects in life.
P.S. sorry for talking this much.
Pisces Sweetie 007: "Most of the house slaves were light-skinned while the ones in the fields were darker-skinned. Along the way, the house slaves started to have this complex to where they believed that they were better than their darker-skinned brothers & sisters. Sadly, this type of complex still exists not only in Hollywood movies, TV shows, & music videos, but in a lot of aspects in life."
How about, along the way, the darker-skinned slaves started to have this complex to where they believed that they were in fact somewhat worse/less than their lighter-skinned brothers and sisters (see, it can be argued both ways). Of coure, this is not to condone either way of being, at least to the extent you and I discuss the former to the latter. However, many a light-skinned person has been judged by his "darker-skinned brothers and sisters" more harshly on occasion than sometimes necessary in this regard, if you aren't already aware. In other words, it has cut both wayz. Thanks.
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Funky Fresh 3000-1 said: "They are from the south, in the south the fair skinned girl is prefered over the darkskinned girl."
What an ignorant statement. I live in the South where our women tend to be darker and thicker than the Northern black women. In the South, black men who date black women are more into the thickness of a sista than whether she's light or not. I date women of all races and shades. It's inaccurate statements like the above that gives us a bad name.
And Meganjerai, stop being so paranoid.
Peace.
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They're not saying that now and days a fair skinned woman is preferred. Historically speaking, fair-skinned women were preferred to a darker woman, in the early half of the 20th century.
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I have lived in Louisiana and New York City. I had heard of a preference for light-skinned women ONLY in past centuries, and that only b/c I was aware of a New Orleans culture where light-skinned women were highly preferred mistresses to wealthy plantation owners, therefor making their proginy lighter and lighter over generations.
I had never heard of this as a preference among black people in the present, until I came to New York. I had never heard of the paper bag test, until it was explained to me by a friend here in New York. I was aware of some racism in my area of the south, but this form of racism was entirely new to me, up until recently. I have to say that there are a lot of aspects of racism I was not aware of until I came to this great melting pot of a city. I guess the more diversity of people, the more they come up with ways to discriminate against their differences.
Anyway, let's not generalize about the South only, ok? A good portion of them have really come a long way.
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Truer words were nevsr spoken. Also, who says only the South prefers its black women light-skinned?
shareWhy would she invisible if she were darker-skinned? And furthermore, who suggested that a really dark skinned person be cast? I thought they were just tired of seeing super fair-skinned black women being casted, Gabrielle Union is a dark-skinned actress who can convey emotion very well, she has never been "invisible" in any of her movies.
shareWhy can't light skined sistas work in movies. They need to eat too!
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Why the hell do you care, that's what I'm curious to know. Oh, maybe they perhaps cast the leading actress for her, perhaps, acting ability. Just a crazy suggestion, I know, but that's me. Anyways, the only racists involved are the ones who fixate on her skin-color. It doesn't matter.
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"during the 1930s and 40s the lightskinned people were more popular in the entertainment industry. - Funky Fresh 3000"
Plus its a period movie and the casting holds true to the time period. If this was a 80's movie both Christopher Williams and Al B. Sure is who black women would be fawning over.....
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Look, there's nothing wrong with light-skinned black women playing the leads in films, as romantic interests. There are films you know, where there are dark skinned black women playing the romantic leads.
All of this talk, and hating on lighter skinned black women, by darker skinned black women, is mere jealousy and playerhating, despite their protests to the contrary, about some "black conscious" motivations.
These dark skinned women wish they were light, and if they had to choose the color of their men, they wouldn't even probably be black men. And if they were, they more likely wouldn't be all that dark, or their color.
So no, I don't see nothing wrong with a light skinned black woman playing the romantic lead, seeing as how a light skinned black woman is no less black, or soulful, than a darker skinned black woman...
They are from the south, in the south the fair skinned girl is prefered over the darkskinned girl. But it makes it more realistic.. during the 1930s and 40s the lightskinned people were more popular in the entertainment industry.
Very true, but I doubt that was the intent.
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"So no, I don't see nothing wrong with a light skinned black woman playing the romantic lead, seeing as how a light skinned black woman is no less black, or soulful, than a darker skinned black woman... "
there's nothing wrong with it, but when ONLY light-skinned black women get cast as romantic leads, even though they don't represent the colour of most black women, there IS a problem.
"These dark skinned women wish they were light, and if they had to choose the color of their men, they wouldn't even probably be black men. And if they were, they more likely wouldn't be all that dark, or their color. "
Replace 'dark skinned' with black and 'light' with white and you have what a white supreminist probably said during the civil rights era.
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Well...originally when reports of the movie wwas first floating around the dscription was that Andre 3000 would be playing a musician who fell in love with a white girl. I don't now if Idlewild is that same movie. Maybe it was a different script altogether. But if Idleood is indeed based on that same script that was mentioned a couple of years back, I want to know why AGAIN Hollywood got scared with the idea of a black male with a white woman. Its just as tired to see Hollywood convenienty skip over white actresses as love interest to occassionally play opposite the biggest black male stars in the world. Its tired for Hollywood to cast strictly black or Latina actresses for the romantic interests of Denzel, Eddie, Will, etc. Meanwhile the biggest black female stars such as Halle, Whoopi, Thandie have rountinely been cast to play opposite white male leads in Hollywood movies. How played out is that?
So which situation is worse? Guess we still got "thht mentality" going on where the discomfort of white males, the insecurity of black females and the cowardice of black males help allow the status quo to keep continuing in these one-sided casting decisions.
By the way the actress playing Andre's love interest i the movie is also playing Denzel's love interest in "Deja Vu". Ridiculous. He's about 30 years older than her. Couldn't they find an older black actress for the role (perhaps a darker-skinned one to boot)? Certainly there at least where plentiful of white actresses closer to his age to choose from. Same ol', same ol'.
This is some ignorant ass discussion. Light skinned/Dark skinned. Why does it matter. Negroes wake up and get some knowledge...Just to let you know...all different Hues of Black women auditioned for this role, it was not about skin color. If you have not realized there are differen hues of Black actresses in hollywood auditioning for roles...this lady happened to win the role. Negroes stop being soooo dayum ignorant and writing about topics that are sooo dayum stupid...that is why everybody around the world looks at us African Americans has so dayum stupid, we always discussing stuff that has no value...All we seem to care about is entertainment...Elevate your dayum minds....let me change the subject...What drives the the citrus acid cycle? let's think about that...negroes need to spend more time reading and educating themselves...we have become such a shallow and ignorant generation of Black People, our parents and grandparents are ashamed...Our generation has more access and opportunity than ever before and we want to waste it on ignorant ass *beep* like watching videos and discussing the skink color a Blackgirl in a movie...you dumbasses.
shareSince this discussion is so ignorant, why are reading and replying to it? How about educating yourself, start with proof reading. I found numerous mistakes. Mistakes that make us look as uneducated as, lets say, writing about race in a movie. The woman's skin color shouldn't not matter. Stop being so insecure about color, enjoy the movie. Peace.
shareIronically, the love intrest in the movie, Paula Patton is married to Robin Thicke, the son of Alan Thicke the dad on growing pains. I guess they settled for a black girl married to a white dude in real life.
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what dose that have to do with anything. Does that make her less black?
shareSo wait....if the girl had been white, everyone would have been cool with it b/c it would have been a story about interracial dating in the old days...
If the girl had been dark-skinned it would have been ok, b/c it would be letting the "more black" women get a good role in Hollywood.
If it had been an Asian or Hispanic chick...well, it really wouldn't have made much sense for the time period, but whatever, go interracial dating!
So, the only case in which everyone would be having this type of conversation is with the light-skinned girl? That sounds like racism towards the light-skinned.
R.