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What was her problem with Wisley?


Okay so I get that she wouldn't ever marry someone she didn't love, but she seemed to be really set against Wisley anyway. What was her problem with him? He seemed quite nice to me apart from being a little shy. Or did I miss something huge?

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My interpretation of the situation was that there was nothing 'wrong' with him, per se, just that he wasn't right for her. Surely you've gone on dates with people who were perfectly 'fine', nothing wrong with them, but they just didn't have that certain something that made them attractive to you. Of course by the end of the film, she was already in love with LeFroy, but this would explain her reaction at the beginning.

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Wisley actually grows some during the film.

But, remember, Jane knew him for most of her life and he always seemed to her to be a wimpy kind of guy who didn't have much to say about anything. He certainly was portrayed this way in the beginning. He's kind of the puppy-dog guy whose worst attribute is insecurity.

However, I will say that he was beginning to show considerable strength of character in defying his Aunt simply by liking Jane.

Unfortunately, as popcorn said, Jane was already in love with Tom and was blinded by her assumption that Wisley or his Aunt sent the note to Tom's uncle.

I always did wonder, however, why the two didn't end up together in the end. He showed tremendous strength and kindness by stepping out his aunt's carriage in their final scene together and I was surprised to hear Jane saying they should part as friends. It seemed to be the two of them would have made a good match as he seemed quite amused by her and impressed with her own strength.

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I think the screenwriters wanted it to end this way because of how they created Mr.Wisley. He was a compound character. Part of him was based on Mr.Darcy in that they made him the relative of a noblewoman and thus far above Jane's station. The other fact is that the rest of his character and his courting Jane was based on a real event in her life in 1802 with a young man named Harris Bigg-Withers.The Bigg-Withers were a wealthy (but not titled) family who lived in a typically big and beautiful Georgian mansion (Manydown House) on a large Hampshire estate.


When they moved to Hampshire in 1789 they had three daughters and their son, the youngest, thirteen year old Harris. They all became great friends with the Austens and Jane and Cassandra visited there often. (Despite the great difference in wealth, the Austens were considered part of the local gentry and thus acceptable companions). In fact it was at a ball in 1795 given by the Bigg-Withers at Manydown House that Jane first met Tom Lefroy, who was staying with family at nearby Ashe Rectory.

Now jump ahead seven years to the autumn of 1802.Jane is 25 and she and Cassandra are still great friends with the Bigg-Withers family and still visit frequently. Young Harris is now twenty and back from Oxford. Like the film character, Harris was rather shy and awkward. While on a weeklong visit to Manydown House, on December 2nd, Harris proposed matrimony to Jane and she accepted. Unlike the movie, everyone in the Bigg-Withers family was overjoyed at the news and celebrated appropriately that night.

Like the movie, this would give Jane everything a woman was supposed to want in the early 19th century: a husband, wealth, social status, a fine home to be mistress of, a place for Cassandra to live, and financial security for her parents who were getting old. But she came down the next morning and said that though she esteemed and respected Harris, it was not enough. This inferred that she wanted to really love her husband, a strange and radical idea in her time and place. Most women would have seen this as a perfect offer (much less for a penniless 25 year old) and would have jumped at the opportunity. Jane seems to have been ahead of her time in this respect.

They all stayed friends and Harris was later married and had ten children. For Jane it was her last suitor and last chance at marriage and it must have taken a great deal of fortitude for her to say no. In any case, the movie character (Mr.Wisley) is so similar to Harris that it seems the writers just telescoped Jane's two serious suitors into the same timeframe for the sake of the film, but decided to preserve Jane's real response to her second suitor.

This is pretty long for a Message Board reply, but I thought you might find the actual story relevant to the movie and why it ended the way it did.

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He was not the intellectual equal she wanted besides everything else. She was a woman who valued wit over money thus the reason she saw an intellectual equal and friend in Tom. Wisley was not quick witted or charming enough to make him interesting to Jane. He was nice, but he was a "booby" in Jane's words!

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"I always did wonder, however, why the two didn't end up together in the end."

Had the movie been completely fictional, maybe they would have.
You can't well have the main character marry in a (semi-)biographical movie when she didn't in real life...

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Wisley came across as a dullard as well as shy. Actually he seemed to be the most realistic character in the film.

Its that man again!!

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The funny thing is, Wisley was more like Darcy in that respect , except he was socially awkward without all the aloofness.

Wildcattin'...Wildcattin'. Pow! I'm gonna go.

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I think Wisley is there to show how Jane learned about prejudice. Jane judges him unfairly because of the circumstances, because he was "pushed" on her.

-He turns out to have qualities that neither the viewers nor Jane expects
-She incorrectly believes him to be guilty of wrongdoing (the letter).
Both these things are also true of Elizabeth's view of Mr. Darcy from Pride and Prejudice.

So, I think it was meant to show that Jane learned something from this experience, and, although she was never attracted to Mr Wisley, he inspired the character of Mr Darcy as well as Elizabeth's character development in P&P. (To me Wisley seemed much more similar to Mr Darcy than Lefroy did, so I don't know why everyone kept saying Lefroy was the model for Mr Darcy. Lefroy was much more like the cliched "bad boy" character).

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Of course we can't know all that was going on Miss Austen's brain (quite a lot, obviously). But in this movie, I think her character is a great gudgeon to refuse to marry Wisley. It's not even as if she was chosing between him and the Irishman, she was choosing between Wisley and penury. Not just for herself, but for her family. Probably it's the Anne Hathaway influence, but I don't like her.

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For me, part of the problem was casting Laurie Fox who I just adore. I can't imagine any woman not being able to fall in love with him.

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This right here is the problem. I can't fathom any woman choosing James Macavoy over Laurie Fox. I hadn't even really gotten to know him on PBS yet and he got my attention in this film. Billie Piper's no dummy.

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