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Hate Crime Appears to Be Doing Its Job


The bigot blogs are starting to get their knickers in a twist.

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scary how blinded by hate people really are

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Apparently the new definition of hate = refusing to goosestep to a particular agenda, otherwise known as the tolerance of the Left.

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Do you really think that any normal person sees their life, or anyone else's, as an 'agenda'? People who accept homosexuals do so because they believe in their hearts that it is the right thing to do- It is only when people like yourselves are taught to hate and fear difference do we see anything like 'goosestepping', in the sense of marching with blind and arrogant confidence for no other reason than the majority of people around you are doing it and telling you that it's the thing to do- that was the essence of the influence of the Nazi party (and in fact, it was the RIGHT-WINGERS who were known for their goosestepping- I find it interesting that you tried to turn that bit of imagery around and apply it in the opposite place to which it belongs...)

You and those who share your views are so paranoid and full of fear; sure, everyone's afraid sometimes, but I think you see fear as something to be maintained and encouraged, not soothed and overcome- because it helps you to feel strong and confident in your own beliefs...

As to whatever beliefs you hold, I won't just jump to blame you because it's likely that you were carefully taught to hate and fear, for reasons that were beyond your understanding at the time and are now beyond argument for you- but can you explain to me why any beliefs which encourage hatred for ANY type of human being on this Earth can be justified? And WHY, in the name of blessed Jesus and all that's good and beautiful on Earth, is love and respect and understanding for your fellow man considered by you to be merely a "goosestep to a particular agenda"? (I'm not being rhetorical; I'd love you to explain to me your point-of-view if you can)

I take it that you consider 'tolerance' a negative thing to be avoided; I guess 'discipline' is the only way that God will spare us and let us into heaven? All I can say is that I hope you have a nice life, and that if this one proves unsatisfactory for you, hopefully you'll get a break in the next one...


"In your eyes, the light, the heat; in your eyes, I am complete"- Peter Gabriel

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In reality you could get run over by a bus or win the lottery tomorrow, either way I wouldn't give a damn. You demonstrate the second characteristic of the Left, the smug arrogance of believing that anyone outside of your pathetic little world actually cares what you think. I don't hate you or people who think like you, just the opposite: I don't give a hoot if you live or die, you don't matter. The funny thing about you and your ilk is your bizarre views of people who you think "hate" you. You're actually so full of yourselves that you think we would waste precious seconds of our lives dreaming up ways to stop something so insignificant. Like a little child screaming for attention you invoke Nazis and RIGHT-WINGERS for emphasis. It doesn't work, you're still a nobody. Sorry.

I didn't go looking for this worthless little film, it was on a movie site I belong to and someone posted the link without a description. I'm sure its intended audience will find it heartwarming and inspirational. The rest of the world won't care and the buzz it generates will amount to a fart in a hurricane. Enjoy it and enjoy pretending that you matter.

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And your mere presence is depriving some village of its idiot.

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>>I didn't go looking for this worthless little film, it was on a movie site I belong to and someone posted the link without a description. I'm sure its intended audience will find it heartwarming and inspirational.<<

So you "didn't go looking" for this movie. You stumbled all unaware and innocent into this den of iniquity. Be that as it may, it's self-evident you haven't seen the film. You think it has a particular "intended audience" and that they'll find it "heartwarming and inspirational." I don't know where you got your ideas; but since they didn't come from seeing the film, I don't feel compelled to argue them, just to point out their complete lack of substance.


"The value of an idea has nothing to do with the honesty of the man expressing it."--Oscar Wilde

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You were asked for an explanation to justify your claims and beliefs and yet you spew nothing but hateful, senseless rhetoric. Typical for the likes of you. When asked to lead a reasonable discussion, you degenerate in insults, because you know you cannot win through logic and FACTS.

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I don't know that "tolerance" includes being used as a doormat by the mean-spirited viciousness of an irrationally bigoted right wing extremist.

Are we now taking the word 'tolerance' to mean the acceptance of prejudice?

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Actually, the left CAN be damned intolerant. I volunteered at an abortion clinic in the early nineties, walking patients past the screaming protestors. I spent one year doing this, from 10:00 to 4:00, once a week. The Christians tried to convert me, arguing that abortion is murder. I tried to convert them, arguing that Jesus was not a name-calling, insult-hurling bully who would waste time harrassing people at their lowest moment. I told them Jesus would HELP the girls, not name-call them. Guess what: THEY LISTENED. They made a deal that they would set up a stand and never shout another insult at the patients, if I would point to their stand and let the women know that IF - IF - they wanted to carry to term, those people over there were willing to provide financial assistance. Guess what: Lots of women went over and took the help - a small minority, to be sure, but this was CHOICE at its finest. I was instantly viewed as an enemy by my liberal friends on the left. I was seen as a turn-coat because I believed in synchrnicity and in CHOICE. By the way, most "leftists" are only pro-abortion, not pro-choice. To be truly pro-choice (as in, my body, my choice) you have to recognize the junky's right to shoot dope: His body, his choice. Nope. Most of ya are just pro-abortion nazis (No offense to my very few true leftist comrades).

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"By the way, most "leftists" are only pro-abortion, not pro-choice. To be truly pro-choice (as in, my body, my choice) you have to recognize the junky's right to shoot dope: His body, his choice. Nope. Most of ya are just pro-abortion nazis (No offense to my very few true leftist comrades)."

Glad to know that you know `most' leftists minds. Phffft.

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“I don't hate you or people who think like you, just the opposite: I don't give a hoot if you live or die, you don't matter.”

It’s funny, I didn’t realize that tolerance was the opposite of hatred. All my life I’ve thought that the opposite of hatred is acceptance and love. Gosh…what’re they teaching us students these days?

“ The funny thing about you and your ilk is your bizarre views of people who you think "hate" you. You're actually so full of yourselves that you think we would waste precious seconds of our lives dreaming up ways to stop something so insignificant. Like a little child screaming for attention you invoke Nazis and RIGHT-WINGERS for emphasis. It doesn't work, you're still a nobody.”

Wow, it sure is good to know that everyone who has an opinion is a nobody. If someone who takes the time to write down their thoughts in response to your own is a nobody, doesn’t that make you the original nobody? Certainly I’m a nobody as well for writing this. Like I said, that makes everyone a nobody. So who truly matters if those with thoughts/opinions/beliefs do not?

Let’s have a party of nobodies with thoughts that don’t matter! I’ll bring the chips and dip!

Also, I’m a big fan of your first sentence there, about how when someone feels hatred towards another they must express it through action (“…we would waste precious seconds of our lives dreaming up ways…”) Brilliant! ‘Cause I’ve never felt hatred for something without doing something about it. I’ve never dissented from anyone without screaming my opinion back into their face. Hatred manifests itself in more ways than obvious action; it shows in facial expressions, words unspoken, and loads of other ways that don’t involve, “screaming for attention”. Hatred requires no action to exist, just as the opposite of hatred is not mere tolerance. Perhaps I should bring a dictionary to the party as well…?

tbradhansen: Too true. The left can be crazy. So can the right. So can extremist Christians, overly-assertive atheists, and suicide-bombing Muslims. Any group that exists is going to have extreme behavior attached to it, which I found to be the point of this film. The churches of the same faith with different Biblical interpretations, the extreme reactions to protect what was thought rightful in the minds of the characters…everything in this movie was about extreme behavior. I commend you on finding a resolution to pacify both the religious who protested and (I’m sure some) of the pro-choice people you work with. However, I am not a fan of labels, and am a bit weary of your statement penning “most” leftists together.

I’ve run into far more “true leftist comrades” than I have “pro-abortion Nazis”. Perhaps that’s where I’m geographically located, or my youth and the youth of those I spend time with…either way it’s what I’ve seen. Hurrah to you for standing up for what you believe in, but please don’t categorize a vast majority of people.

Care to join our party?

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Most pro-lifers are in fact anti-abortion and not pro-life, because they dont' give a *beep* what happens to the baby after it is born, just so long as a woman is forced to deliver it.

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No, honey, hate is making life miserable for perfectly innocent people who haven't harmed anyone because of your unjustified prejudice and ignorance. Like you're doing.

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