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Did You Like the Ending?

posted 17 years ago by TofuVic
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This post will include SPOILERS. Just wanted to point that out first.

Hey, Everyone,
How's it going? I did not very much like the ending of the movie. Sure, there was a lot of foreshadowing about how some people may have to take justice into their own hands, but I could not find myself agreeing with the ending.

Please share your thoughts regarding the ending. Did you like it? Dislike it? I am very open to your ideas and opinions, especially since I really liked the majority of this movie. I actually did not see the pastor as the killer, and was very surprised that he turned out to be the killer. I guess while I was watching the movie, I did not think that it was the type to have twists and such.

Thank you,
Victor Ly

[–] samhainaz 17 years ago

I was indifferent about the ending. It seemed that a lot was cut out and this was all done to compact the movie into an acceptable time duration. The ending was okay however you can see that the homicide detective would have , given he was so meticulious about everything he would have followed up on the TWO bullets that he mentioned.

I think the movie would have been better off if as you saw the female detective(forgot her name) come up with a few more leads if that would have unfolded but that could have been years into finding out the criminal and I bet Trey's mom couldnt wait that long.

You can see however that both Robbie and Trey's mom both looked extremely satisfied with their "resolution" to this situation. Something that the homicide detective could have picked up on too.

Overall it was a good movie.

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[–] cannoneric 16 years ago

I loved the ending....Justice was indeed served...Not by the law, but of moral superiority.
I would have done exactly the same thing given the circumstance.
Daddy had it coming, and was probably a pedophile with the son growing up.

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[–] Silitonga 13 years ago

I really agree with samhainaz ...
Maybe is about the duration. But, I still think female detective could do more, breaking the rule maybe, and finally found the real killer... I think that would be a better ending

[–] alpeaston 16 years ago

As a person who was involved for many years in gay politics and gay rights I have seen more then my share of injustice. On a moral level I complete disagree with the ending; but I guess I have to be honest and say that when Rev. Boyd was shot in the head, I just about came!

[–] Scientists_pay_attention 15 years ago

The ending kind of upset me - it gave me the message that the only way to get justice if you're gay is to take it for yourself. And while it may be gratifying to see the characters get revenge, it just seemed to enforce the idea that it was right to kill the guy. But really, he ended up being no better than the Pastor.

[–] jm10701 15 years ago

The killings of Trey and Pastor Boyd were completely different, so it's a mistake to say Robbie and Trey's mom ended up being no better than the pastor. The pastor deserved to die; Trey didn't. The method in which they killed the pastor was also infinitely more merciful--a quick gunshot to the head, having let him know exactly why they were doing it, instead of a brutal full-body beating with a baseball bat, in the dark and without warning, while the guy was out walking his little dog. What the pastor did was an act of cowardice and hatred; what they did was an act of justice and courage.

I think people who have a problem with the ending may be bound so tightly to political correctness that they've lost sight of humanity. A profound need for justice, and indignation at injustice, are very strong, perfectly natural, normal and healthy human traits. The ideal of righteous revenge for unspeakable and unpunished wrongs has been a powerful force throughout history and in every medium of human expression, and it's been in the movies since they started.

I absolutely LOVED seeing a gay guy and (even better) his lover's mom take revenge the way they did, with guts, determination, and intelligence, and getting away with it. Revenge stories are often messy, and rarely logical, because they appeal to the gut, not to the intellect. They always involve taking the law into your own hands. They always involve taking an eye for an eye. They can NEVER be politically correct, but they can be extraordinarily satisfying.

This movie is one of the best. If it had ended any other way, I'd have despised it. As it is, it's one of the most deeply rewarding and satisfying movies--on very many levels, both aesthetic and personal--I've ever seen in my life.

[–] robbyyashowtime 15 years ago

LMAO!!!

[–] brand78 15 years ago

I have just two questions about the ending - did the Pastor not deserve a fair trial and what will happen if we all took the law into our own hands?

[–] gayspiritwarrior 15 years ago

Yours are the questions I have. I'm afraid too many people think revenge is justifiable and vigilantism is good. The movie turned out to be only a gay version of all those movies where the straight guy gets fed up with criminals and starts blowing them away. The ending compromises the movie. They should have called it "Hate Crimes", plural. Then at least there'd be some acknowledgement that Robby and Trey's mother were acting out of their own hatred.

"The value of an idea has nothing to do with the honesty of the man expressing it."--Oscar Wilde

[–] GulpFriction 15 years ago

I agree with everything you say GSW. And it was a very American ending in that a gun is the answer to most problems. The NRA must have financed this movie.

After watching this movie and Prayers for Robbie last night all I can say is I just hate this US-style 'Christian' fundamentalism which is built on hypocrisy (just look at the pastor's house and lifestyle). It's one American piece of culture that my country can do without.

[–] moqe 15 years ago

No, I did not. Whole movie was so full of *beep* Bad acting, plot, let me laugh:)
Waste of time.

[–] twizzlersandcameras 14 years ago

I liked it, the bastard deserved what he got.

[–] valis1949 14 years ago

If the original murder of the gay man is a "Hate Crime", then isn't the murder of the pastor also a "Hate Crime"? What is provocative about this film is that the message seems to be that in certain cases, revenge or retribution is a good thing. If the Law is not on your side, and you are convinced that you are right, then, seek your retribution. For a low budget film, it certainly raises some interesting issues.

Excuse My Dust...

[–] puirt-a-beul 13 years ago

If the original murder of the gay man is a "Hate Crime", then isn't the murder of the pastor also a "Hate Crime"?

That's one reason I was intrigued they went that way with the story, because suddenly the title didn't only refer to one incident.

I was a bit uncomfortable with it as a resolution, though, because it did seem to say that taking the law into your own hands is OK if you can get away with it. Not a position I would support.

You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

[–] shane1979 13 years ago

Trey's murder was done out of hate because he was GAY.
The Pastor's murder was done out of revenge.

Definition of a HATE CRIME. Is a criminal act done to someone based on color creed race sect sexual orientation.

Pastor didnt fall into those categories as they were targeting HIM specifically for what he did. Trey could have been ANY gay man on the street walking his dog.

But i will say this... who the hell walks their dog at night ALONE, especially when you have a known homophobe living next door.

Habataitara modorenai to itte
Mezashi-ta no wa aoi aoi ano sora

[–] lanelee 13 years ago

Personally, I like the ending. In my opinion the two killing is different. I would say that the first killing is hate crime. However, the last one I would like to call it revenge. The fist killing is based on simply nonsense hatred, but the second one is based on injustice. The truth is that without the first killing, there won't be the second one. Or if the justice were taken, then there won't be the second killing neither. I am afraid to say that revenge is in our vain, one of human nature. It is hard to say whether revenge is right or not. But if the similar situation happened, we will take action either in real, or in our mind.

Else let's think about in this way, what will happen to other gay people if the pastor is not taken care of because of injustice? I think he may continue to kill other gay people. Sometimes the old Asian belief works well, which is, killing is one way to stop killing.

I love the movie

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[–] Waski_the_Squirrel 12 years ago

I'm jumping into this a bit late.

While I have a huge problem with vigilante justice, the movie does raise a good point. Sometimes the authorities get it wrong. Sometimes they don't provide justice. Sometimes the wrong people go to jail. That is real life.

The vigilante reaction is also quite real.

That doesn't make any of it right, but it does make it real.