How do you rate the book?


Personally, I found it incredibly dull. The only reason its still around today is because it is considered a ‘classic’ but if you actually get past the first three chapter before he even gets to school, you start to see how bad a writer Thomas Hughes was.

Instead of being subtle and implicit with his work, Hughes simply breaks away from the story and TELLS you the morals and rights and wrongs of the book. In my opinion, that is not the best way to tell a story. And then when he does talk about his views, he waffles on for ages.

He drones on and on for endless pages about the Rugby Match and the when Arthur is ill when this could easily be shorter and snappier and more to the point.

Obviously I accept that Hughes is from another era and we, the audience, have changed socially, but Bram Stoker, Mary Shelly, Charles Dickens and the Bronte Sisters are excellent authors and all from the 1800s like Hughes.

I’m not badmouthing this film, but I was wondering what other people think. If you haven’t read it, don’t bother, unless you want to judge for yourself.

“Workers of the world unite; you have nothing to lose but your chains”- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

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What you wrote is exactly what I think :)

I read this book during the winter because a lot of people in here were like: "That's an awesome movie and the book is my favorite childhood [book]!" and such stuff so I went through it. Then I had to do a summary and a review of a book for my English course and so I decided to choose TBSD and it came that way:(quoting myself)

"I expected TBSD to be much more interesting really. Perhaps does it lack "action" because it is almost exactly taken from Thomas Hughes's own misadventures at Rugby when he was young, but I reckon he should have pepped up the real things a little bit more.

First, I don't know if it is due to the fact that it was written 150 years ago, but some parts are pretty long and dull. There are a lot of never-ending descriptions about places (like 3 kilometers around the boy's house or the school), even about places where the characters don't go in the story or about things that have no importance at all, in all the possible and impossible details.

Second, the narrator is taking too much place in the story. He is always commenting and explaining everything (even if his explanations are sometimes welcome, especially concerning pastimes and games of the period such as back-swording and old rugby). Of course, the atmosphere, the realities and the customs of the Victorian era are well portrayed, but it becomes very heavy to read.

Also, the author is always drifting away from the story on religious and philosophical matters and it gets annoying. His radical positions and ideas about education are very clear and he seems to enjoy moralizing his readers (but we do not enjoy being moralized ^_^).

Still, TBSD contains very fine statements and opinions and it advocates beautiful values such as loyalty, friendship, family, courage, honesty and fairness. In truth, this book gets better from reading to reading, maybe because I know which parts to skip (true. lol :P) and because I'm getting more and more fluent in English. There are moving moments that I liked particularly, for example when Tom and the Squire part (the young lad wants to hug his father but he has made a stipulation concerning affectionate demonstrations). It's pretty cute ^_^...

In conclusion, except for the writing "style" and tedious passages, TBSD is not so bad and it shows perfectly how things worked and were in the "old time" from the point of view of someone who lived in that period what's more. We learn a lot about the origins of sports like rugby, cricket and "hare and hounds" and about early British customs."


So yeah, that's it. The book is OK when you cut down all descriptions and dull passages, but still, I find that it really misses "action". Hughes concentrated too much on the details when he should have worked more on the plotline. In fact, we do not get to know Tom very well, Hughes always skipping from year to year until he leaves Rugby (but we don't see him evolve much) and it's more of a "I-tell-you-my-life-even-if-it's-dull-and-I-don't-make-any-efforts-to-enhance-it" story. I hope the movie's better...
Isa

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Seriously though... Question time. Is it possible to read this book in two weeks? I'm a very fast reader so just wondering...? Got to read it for English A-level class and am still yet searching for the correct copy... PANIC!

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It's is possible to read it in two weeks. I'm 13 and I read in in 2 days - the utter truth!
I loved the book, apart from the opening two chapters, I almost cried near the end though!

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Get the audio book read by Rowan Atkinson. It's abridged but most of it is read. I got through it in a day.

You mean Jack Kelly? Yeah, he was here. But he put an egg in his shoe and beat it.

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I've read this many times (for the poster below looking for the 'correct' copy, it's downloadable from the internet, as it's now in the public domain), and have it on my Palm Pilot (I was playing around with the download site). It's a very quick read, barely a novella.

I happen to think it's a very good work, if not at the very top tier of Thackeray, Richardson, or Dickens. I think it's important to remember how early this work really is. It is seminal to so many successive 'bildungsroman' themed books. It also clearly comes out of the tradition of the English gentleman, who might publish a detailed account of his 'Grand Tour' of Europe or a personally published memoir of his life. An activity that was quite common in that era. Sometimes, one can even find these books, essentially 'vanity press,' personally published books, in used bookstores.

The Rugby match is a bit 'boring,' but obviously essential as the sport was actually invented at Rugby (hence the name of the sport). It also serves as exposition to various characters, the roles they play, the hierarchy of the school, and the import of sport.

I thought this version was fairly decent. As mentioned, it was definitely harder-edged than the earliest B&W version (1939 I think). I haven't seen the 1951 version, so I can't judge that. However, I could quibble with some of the changes made to the story.

SPOILERS:

The subplot of Flashman's ravishing of the porter's daughter was unnecessary; but I guess it ups the ante in a day that doesn't quite get the 'fagging' experience or the impact of the hazing.

In the book, Arthur doesn't die from influenza or fever; another boy does. It also drops a fairly important character in Martin, who helps Arthur bond with Tom Brown.

This is probably the rare movie where it could easily have used 120 minutes plus. I do think Pettyfer did a very good job in portraying the early callowness, development, and maturity of Tom Brown; and Stephen Fry was his usually excellent self.

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It was Karl Marx and Frederick Engels who wrote that line about the workers of the world uniting in 1848 in "The Communist Manifesto", not Lenin.

Blaine in Seattle

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I agree. The book was very dull and the movie kept the same, plot but added so much more to make it interesting.

Idiots are fun. No wonder every village wants one.

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Try reading about Flashman's adventures after Rugby. A lot more interesting and hilarious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashman

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Several years before Frasier "found" the Flashman Papers, P.G. Wodehouse wrote in letters to, believe, William Townend, that eh thought Tom Brown was one of the dullest characters in English fiction, and Flashman one of the most interesting... I wonder if Frasier was aware of that...

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the book very bad only the second book that i couldn't finish

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Wodehouse was a Flashman fan.

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I absolutely adored the book! In fact, I had to find the sequel and read it also before I could get a good night's sleep (I also loved it - much tighter and faster paced) Of course there are some slow parts that can be skipped on second readings (what Victorian novel doesn't have these - especially Dickens and Bronte? But otherwise I find the book full of humor charm and surprising spiritual insights. This would be on my "must read list" for sure!

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