Why is NASCAR popular?


Now I'm not a huge motorsports nut and I appreciate that all the cars drive the same engine (unlike Formula 1 where there's a distinct advantage to certain teams) but I still just see cars driving in circles for hundreds and hundreds of laps. Is it a nostalgia/fun day out appeal? Or does it get genuinely tense? And I heard that the first race is the most important, which I never understood.

So yeah, as a European I understand I know next to nothing about the sport but was just wondering why its so big in the US. Great film by the way

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I'm a NASCAR fan...

No doubt the racing gets extremely intense. It's just a huge thrill to watch these guys put everything out on the line at high speeds. I don't know how else to put it.

I think the famous thing is once you've been to your first race, you're hooked - meaning once you've seen and heard the cars in person, you start to understand the thrill of it all. Sometimes you can't quite grasp all the intense speeds, how close/hard the drivers race each other, and the sounds through television.

To me, your question is no different than asking what makes baseball so popular? All it is are guys throwing and hitting a ball with a stick.

...I love baseball, I'm just saying that's what the question is like. Any sport can be simplified into its most basic terms to sound boring.

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I appreciate the thought out reply from a person who loves Nascar.

I still don't get it. I mean, what's the strategy? "Drive fast." ..?

I've come to realize that I'll never get it and others will love it. And that's totally okay just as I'm
sure I have some pastimes I love that other people will fail to see any interest in.


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because the cars go vroom and vroom and they might crash

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Also, NASCAR is popular because the cars are ones we can buy. In the South, whole families used to be loyal to the brand that their driver drove.

Also, there is lots of passing in NASCAR. Americans love scoring and in racing passing another driver is analogous to scoring. F1 is not popular partly because there is little passing.


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Because there is actually some challenge involved if you want to pass someone, blind corners, chicanes, gravel pits, narrow straights. Watching a bunch of cars with the same engine drive around an oval-shaped track sounds like watching some other kids playing Scalextric.




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umm, chicanes? I watch motorsport and NASCAR doesnt have any chicanes or garvel traps, they go round and round on ovals......boring.

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Raf was responding to David as to why there is less passing in F1, not NASCAR.

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umm, chicanes? I watch motorsport and NASCAR doesnt have any chicanes or garvel traps, they go round and round on ovals......boring.


They do race two road-courses during the season.........so you're wrong.

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At one time, the vehicles were production cars (they had to be homologated in order to race, officially). But now, the cars are only production cars in name--and in certain visual features.

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I still don't get it. I mean, what's the strategy? "Drive fast." ..?

I've come to realize that I'll never get it and others will love it. And that's totally okay just as I'm
sure I have some pastimes I love that other people will fail to see any interest in.
Ya, but driving fast isn't that easy.......if you ever watch a race, you see how much the handling of the car comes into play.

The competition is so intense/close, that handling probably plays the biggest factor in success.

There's a loose condition and a tight condition. Loose = you turn the car and the back end feels like it wants to spin out. Tight = you turn the car, and it doesn't want to turn.

Aerodynamics, shocks, springs, and a whole bunch of stuff on the car play critical factors. To tell you how sensitive it is - even the weather plays a factor in how teams set up their cars. The sun makes the track hot and slippery......cold weather gives the tires more grip on the racetrack.

And to get the upmost performance out of a racecar......it takes a great driver. This is a sport where a half second a lap is massive.

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The sun makes the track hot and slippery......cold weather gives the tires more grip on the racetrack.

You've got that reversed.

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No he doesn't.

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I don't understand Nascar even though I like motorsports. It just that it's same oval round and round. All the things you say is great in Nascar applies to other series as well. They just use actual racetrack or gravel which makes them much more interesting. DTM or BTCC for instance.

Though as a finnish it's Rally and F1 I mostly watch. Which are rather different type of racing.

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You'll never understand it because you're European...you won't understand our love of guns or dental hygiene either either!

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Exactly. I don't know a whole lot about it. I don't follow it because I don't live by any tracks and I agree it's not all that interesting on TV. I did visit the track in Charlotte once, though, and rode in the "track car" (is that what it's called?) around the track a few times and it was incredibly sweet. Again, I don't know much about the actual races, but I would say compare it to something like horse racing. You may just be going around a track, but you have to have a good car, a good crew, be able to risk you're life on a daily basis, have excellent spacial perception and hand-eye coordination, give your life to practicing, and such. Like the person said above, its not any sillier than any other sport to the objective observer, everyone has their preference of course, but that doesn't make any sport more valid than any other sport.

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"I did visit the track in Charlotte once, though, and rode in the "track car" (is that what it's called?) around the track a few times and it was incredibly sweet."

Technically, it's called a pace car. It is the car that is brought out whenever the yellow caution flag is waved due to whatever reason, like debris on the track, a blown engine, or a wreck. The cars all line up behind this pace car until they give a restart (green flag).

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To me, your question is no different than asking what makes baseball so popular? All it is are guys throwing and hitting a ball with a stick.

Er, no. Baseball is *technically* hitting and throwing a ball. Racing is *literally* driving in a circle. There's no simplification involved. None at all. It's like golf; I'm sure it's fun to actually do, but how anybody can watch it without moderate to severe brain damage is a mystery.

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Er, no. Baseball is *technically* hitting and throwing a ball. Racing is *literally* driving in a circle. There's no simplification involved. None at all. It's like golf; I'm sure it's fun to actually do, but how anybody can watch it without moderate to severe brain damage is a mystery.
...and NASCAR fans are supposed to be the dumb ones.

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It's mostly the spectacle of the sport that makes it popular. Flashy paint schemes, loud engines, the personalities of the drivers. There's a great deal of drama, also - it's not at all uncommon to see verbal or even physical altercations between teams/drivers over something that happened on the track.
To answer why the first race is considered important, it takes place at Daytona Superspeedway, which is one of NASCAR's oldest and fastest tracks, and because it's the first race, what happens there can set the tone for the rest of the season. Many of the other races on the schedule are considered equally important - the Coca-Cola 600 at Charlotte is the longest race of the season. The Brickyard 400 in Indianapolis has the world-famous Indianapolis Motor Speedway as its setting, considered hallowed ground in motorsports. The September night race in Richmond, Virginia is the last race before the Chase, otherwise known as the "playoffs".
Finally, yes, there is a huge amount of strategy involved in the sport. If you're at a larger track where drafting is a factor, you need to be willing to work with other drivers to stay competitive. The slightest change of tire pressure, shock settings, even the temperature of the track can be a major factor. Teams will usually pit four to eight times a race, so pit strategy is very important, as is communication between driver and crew. The engines aren't all the same, as you say, either. Teams build engines themselves according to their manufacturer sponsor's specifications, and the areo package is the same across the field, just like in IRL or Formula 1.

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Yawn. I agree with Jeff Dunham's black puppet. "Oh, they're making a left turn! Oh, they're making another left turn! I could go away for an hour and come back and not have missed an f&*%(ing thing!" Four hours of watching cars circling a track? I'd rather watch a golf match, although I can't stand that either and agree with Mark Twain that: "Golf is a good walk wasted."





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The South Park crew had an interesting answer to this question in the October 6 episode...

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Was looking at my post history and forgot I had started this thread - I actually became pretty interested in NASCAR when I watched the end of the second Talladega race in 2009! Personally I wish they could tighten everything up a little (races are too long in my opinion, too many races before the final 10) so I tend to mainly watch the build up or the last 100 or so laps but its definetly won my respect - although being from Ireland most people tend to look at me funny if I sing its praises. I even bought 'Nascar for Dummies' in late 2009 :D

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I'm a fan of road course racing and NASCAR (and dirt track and drag racing and rallying and DTM series and Grand Am and Australian v8 supercars and...) Kudos to you for giving it a chance. I don't understand the naysayers and those who call NASCAR fans stupid. The "only left turns" argument also completely glosses over the fact that NASCAR has 4 road courses on the current schedule (2012). I hope you've managed to make it to an actual race.

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Well...I'm not a big fan of it or anything and I can understand on the one hand why some would fail to see and/or would question the appeal, but at the same time I think it can be just as exciting and entertaining as some other types of races, sports, or competitions. Why not?

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A friend of mine summed it up nicely:
20,000 people watching 20 guys, taking 4 lefts, hoping 1 takes a right. :)


Actually, I must say, I had the opportunity to work at a Talladega Speedway event.
There really is a difference in what you see on TV vs. what you see (and feel) at the track. I'm not into racing, at all, but I can see how people get into it.

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Definitely the egg salad sandwiches...

NASCAR makes these egg salad sandwiches for everybody who comes through the turnstiles. And you're thinking "I don't even like egg salad" - but you see everybody else chowing down on theirs you give it a shot - and holy crap is it awesome.

Some people just walk right back to their car and drive home.

They are that good.

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It's not just driving around in circles. Driving a car that handles like a tank at 200 MPH door to door with 40 other cars going the same speed takes skill, and it's a testament to the skill of NASCAR drivers that they do make it look so easy.

Still, I can't help but think about the beginning of the movie. I know it's a farce, but a converted pit crewman getting behind the wheel for the first time going from last place to third in a restrictor plate race just by driving awesome is well, to put it simply, impossible. I know Bill Elliot once came back from five laps down to win Talladega, but that was before plates. That could never happen today.

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If you'll recall, Ricky and the crew were wearing ball caps, no helmets, so, maybe, the race depicted predated restrictor plates...just a supposition, of course. But, I understand what you mean.

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