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What exactly is lovecraft/What does lovecraftian mean in horror genres?


With certain horror movies, especially this one, I keep hearing the words "lovecraft" or "lovecraftian" when describing the movie. What does it mean?

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H P Lovecraft (1890-1937)was considered the number one author of "Weird Fiction". He was known to combine fantasy, horror and scince fiction together in some of his writings. A couple of his stories ended up on Twilight Zone. He has very much influenced modern horror fiction.

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he also wrote the original story that was the basis for Re-Animator(a zombie movie)

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>>A couple of his stories ended up on Twilight Zone.<<

hmmm ... nope. though i believe "pickman's model" & "cool air" were adapted for rod serling's next show, night gallery.

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H.P Lovecraft was THE man. he was a long time sufferer of night terror. he written down his nightmares, and that's how we have things like Cthulhu and Dagon today.

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Lovecraft was and is a horror god...creating terrors by cleverly using our own interpretation of dread to summon monsters from our subconcious.

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My dear you must do a search of H.P. Lovecraft on the net. If you enjoy Horror it'll be worth your time. He is the "Godfather/Grandaddy" of all things weird, wicked & evil.

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also if you're interested there's a few movies you should check out with Lovecraftian influence... Dagon, The Resurrected and In the Mouth of Madness.

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In the Mouth of Madness is a must see imo. It is probably one of the best Lovecraft Mythology inspired movie along with The Thing maybe (from carpenter).
It is one of those rare movies that I would consider as beeing true horror movies, that's to say not just shockers where you jump on your seat from surprise, but rather the kind that sets up a strange feeling / atmosphere, and that will make you have nightmares.

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Check this site out!! The complete works of H.P. Lovecraft - there are both short reads and longer ones - The Call of Cthulhu is a favorite of mine, but all stories are good. Classic stuff!!

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If you want Lovecraft read the books, and then see the movies, I feel Stuart Gordon added too much sex to his versions. (strange tho) but the term Lovecraftian refers to the author Howard Phillips Lovecraft who wrote stories about an ancient race of beigns that came from beyond the stars and live on earth (underground, in the ocean, or in far off places) and they are asleep or in other dimensions waiting for the 'stars to be right' so that they can return to this world to rule again.

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A couple of things. First off, to the person who claimed that "The Thing" was Lovecraft inspired, What on earth is wrong with you? The story that spawned it is "Who Goes There" by John Campbell. Tenuously at best, one could claim that the marriage of horror and science are inspired by Lovecraft, but then, another Craft, Mary Shelley Wollstone of said set*, beat him to the punch by a few hundered years. Anyway, The Thing is leaps and bounds better than any Lovecraft mess.

Now, to the original poster, here's a tip. Lovecraft is a very good writer, to a point. Like Bob Ross is a very good painter, to a point. Read the Call of Cthullu, and then be done with the whole "Cthullu Mythos" deal. Because every story is the same. Or better yet, here is a plot diagram that will sound very familiar to anyone who has ever read any mythos story, ever.
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A man (call him guy A) gets a contact from a long lost friend (guy B)of his who went to go study something obscure in a random New England town. A series of messages, increasingly paranoid and disjointed, tell of people acting hush hush, and a strange building of some sort. B then sends one last one claiming he's going to check it out. Communication then ceases. Then, and no sooner, does A decide he needs to go see his friend, since he (B) might be crazy or something. A goes, and nobody will talk to him. (Small town New Englanders being tight-lipped to strangers asking weird questions? What a concept!) He traces what his friend was doing, discovers the building, goes to explore it, and there is some sort of Elder god -big ugly things Lovecraft, in a stroke of genius, never actually described- pops out and either 1) Kills A, or 2)Is sent back to sleep by A.
END OF SPOILERS END OF SPOILERS END OF SPOILERS END OF SPOILERS
And there you have it. Every one, while decent to good on its own, is nothing but rote repetition of all the rest. Save yourself some time to check out LC's non-mythos collections, much of which is quite good.

*I mean Frankenstein, for those unwilling to put up with my verbal chicanery.

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Ahh what an uneducated summary of lovecraft. Yes it is true that many of the "cthullu mythos" story share similar themes. Is it possible you are unaware of the many other storys Lovecraft has written about things far and away from Cthullu. Of course this excludes his poetry, essays, and extinseve letters. All of Lovecraft is worth study for his amazing knack to form a philosophical and aesthetic unity found in few other writers. The usage of the description "Lovecraftian" by my humble opinion refers to a hint of the unknown, the supernatural at its purest, the darkest parts of our universe. I find many directors attemting to reach this with cinema and not only by the pure retelling of lovecraft, but by sharing a clear Lovecraft inspriration. Many of the cinematic versions of his story I beleive fail at this, when many other movies succeded at putting the utter feeling of dread, the pure feeling of horror in the minds of their viewers. And in comparing Mrs. Shelly to Lovecraft I think you are very wrong. So you complain (uneducatedly I might add) at the monotonay of Loveraft, but Shelly had it easy to be creative when only writting one real novel with exeption to her letters and journals she has written next to nothing. Her novel was a great addition to our modern idea of horror but far diffenrt than Lovecrafts fiction. Mary Shelly is to H.P. Lovecraft as Mark Twain is to John Steinbeck, same genre different on almost all other aspects. So i guess in closing i will recomend to those intrested in understanding more of a broad vision of Lovecraft read some of the following:
-At the Mountain of Madness
-Dream-quest of the Unknown Kadath
-Cats of Ulthar
-The Unnameable
-Through the Gate of the Silver key
and really continue reading and you will see H.P. Lovecraft continues a great philosophical unity throughout his story but all while stretching the bounds of fiction and human fear.

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" I feel Stuart Gordon added too much sex to his versions."


And this is a Bad thing ?????

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Like some already mentioned, Lovecraft was a horrorwriter and this movie had taken inspiration from Lovecraft for sure.

The quote "That is not dead Which can eternal lie Yet with strange aeons Even death may die." is a quote from one of his novels.

Some reoccuring themes in his novels was:
* Large nasty entities, often with undescribeable forms, often with alot of tentacles
* Cults worshipping thoose entities (often with human sacrifices)
* Living Dead or transformed/mutated people

There are some more trademarks for Lovecraft but thoose points are what relates to this movie.

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Someone mentioned Dagon. Lovecraft didn't invent Dagon, Dagon is from the Bible. He was an idol worshipped with his own temples. Yes, he was a fish-type god which is in keeping with the movie Dagon, but Dagon was a very real idol from ancient times. The god of the Philistines, there were temples at Gaza and Ashdod (Judges 16:23-following; I Samuel 5 [entire chapter]). Dagon was the head of a man with the body of a fish. The temple that Samson collapsed was one of Dagon's temples.

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Wonder if Lovecraft got his idea to write Dagon from the Biblical Dagon. He was an atheist & probably didn't believe in the Bible, but apparently was inspired to write about the fish God of the Philistines.

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"A couple of things. First off, to the person who claimed that "The Thing" was Lovecraft inspired, What on earth is wrong with you? The story that spawned it is "Who Goes There" by John Campbell. Tenuously at best, one could claim that the marriage of horror and science are inspired by Lovecraft, but then, another Craft, Mary Shelley Wollstone of said set*, beat him to the punch by a few hundered years. Anyway, The Thing is leaps and bounds better than any Lovecraft mess."

Please do not misinterpret this as an attack, nor as a complete disagreement, because while "John Carpenter's The Thing" was, technically, based on "Who Goes There", Carpenter himself has said that most of the film was inspired more by Lovecraft than the actual book it was based on. The story was, of course, an adaptation of "Who Goes There", but the actual content, particularly the visuals I believe, were inspired by Lovecraft. Not any specific story, just the imagery and mood that Lovecraft creates. As a fan of both Carpenter and Lovecraft, I somehow felt compelled to post this. Thank you.

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Actually, John W Campbell, the author of 'Who Goes There' (1938) credited Lovecraft (who died only a year earlier) as a great inspiration on this work.

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Amazingly enough, it took me this long to see your response. And thank you for it; I'd never heard that about Carpenter. Now that you mention it, I could see the tone being based on Lovecraft's work.

Additionally, please don't get me wrong on Lovecraft in general. I think he's an excellent writer. Prone to overwrite occasionally, but excellent still. It's just that the Mythos thing has become so overblown that it casts a pall on his other stories. And my favorite Lovecraft story (The Picture In The House) does happen to be non-mythos. He kept it concise, effective, and the snap ending was one of the best I've ever seen. I think only Matheson could consistently deliver twist endings more regularly and get away with it.

On another note, I think that the full collection of the Mythos stories is far more interesting than just Lovecraft's entries. Stephen King and Ramsey Campbell have both written Mythos stories that rival HPL's I think.

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Lovecraft's Dagon is the opposite of that description: A humanoid body with the head of a fish (a larger version is his beloved Deep Ones).

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Seems like there was a statue of Dagon like that in the church, but I remember the girl (princess?) in the movie was like a mermaid. [Here we are discussing the movie Dagon on a page for Mortuary!]

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The only reason I came to this page was that I found a link to 'Mortuary' on a site devoted to Lovecraftian Cinema and I wanted to see if it was the same film I'd already seen--which it was. I didn't like this movie at all and wouldn't exactly call it "Lovecraftian".

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For a rather brief yet deep background of Lovecraft, visit this site:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovecraft

For a quick jump into the world of lovecraft (now, that would be some serious online gaming ;) ), pick up one of his short story collections at the local library.

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Am I allowed to add to a post that's been quiet for five years? Just thought it was worth mentioning that most (all?) of HPL's works are in the public domain and easily available for digital readers.
http://cthulhuchick.com/free-complete-lovecraft-ebook-nook-kindle/

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Lovecrafts horror from beyond the earth creatures with powers unknown to us that would appear magic, other stories like Arthur Jermyn White Ape speak of the horror of "tainted bloodlines" also "The rats in the walls" another favorite which makes looking into your family tree hazardous (and Innsmouths residence etc). Lovecraft feared madness so not all tales end with death often the asylum.
Things that crawl beneath our feet that are summoned up to wreak havoc occur several times too. The Formless spawn of Tsathoggua(C.A.S's invention)are similar to the black slime idea also feature in Phantoms.

I'd heard that HPL edited the Amazing tales before Campbell and ATMOM was available for him to see so "Who goes there" could quite easily have been influenced. The Thing feels to me like cosmic horror.


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For a rather brief yet deep background of Lovecraft, visit this site:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovecraft

For a quick jump into the world of lovecraft (now, that would be some serious online gaming ;) ), pick up one of his short story collections at the local library.
Agree with this 100%. There are also websites with Lovecraft fiction (the Gutenberg site comes to mind) and I was going to suggest a visit to the library as well. I have the Barnes & Noble complete edition of Lovecraft fiction and it is good.

His style tends to be a bit ponderous and is sometimes a bit hard to read, but once you get used to him, it kind of grows on you.

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Initially "Lovecraftian" was an innovative term for horror. Basically it refers to H. P. Lovecraft's style (most usually those in the Cthulhu-linked stories) of using an ever-increasing dread as the characters slowly realize Mankind isn't the pinnacle of the universe and there are powerful entities in the universe that mean us great harm. Sadly most of Lovecraft's imitators in both film and literature just use the surface trappings and not the deeper areas explored in the best of Lovecraft's weird fiction--Call of Cthulhu, Whisperer in Darkness, At the Mountains of Madness, Shadow out of Time for example. This movie is an example of the misuse of Lovecraft's ideas and the adjective form of his name. That's a big part of why it's such a horrible movie.

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I agree with others that this film is not really a good example of the use of Lovecraftian elements

Those elements are: the land is poisoned by something falling from space, there strange incestuous family who sacrifice people to the alien creature, the enormous creature has tendrils like a fungal growth infecting people dead and alive.
There is also a Lovecraft quote on a door underground that is is opened with a star-shaped key

An element that is missing is the sense of dread with a protagonist up against a horror so vast and old that humans are no more than a insignificant infestation to wiped away.


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