so if i get this straight... you praise deception, and despise sagacity. Are you making my point ?
If the only thing you got out of this film was necrophilia, bondage, deception, and sagacity... then you are very, very different from the "average" person. Usually I consider different a good thing, but in your case, I think it's a bit disturbing to be honest.
When there's movie a about such love, passion, care, trust, imagination, determination, hope, spirituality, knowledge, and so forth, and you're only able to reduce its qualities to things like necrophilia (which personally doesn't even make sense because he does not engage in sexual intercourse with a corpse, and his only love is for the soul of his wife who died, which is a universal and natural feeling) then I honestly don't even want to imagine how you view other positive things in life.
You seem to be the type of person who takes positive things, and tries to manipulate others into thinking that these positive things are in fact horrors, which in reality only applies to you and the others with your bizarre philosophy. What movies do you actually like? And what religion are you by the way?
And if you are a troll, then congratulations, because you succeeded into trolling the *beep* out of me.
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mr-bryce
12 years ago
yes, the plot had potential. composition and play, still, are questionnable.
you chose to retain an idealistic and naive view of the movie, what will apppear to you as poetic and spiritual seems like an obvious flag to me.
i chose to take it for granted and rather focus on how the message is conveyed and what the producer appealed to. this absolute love theme has been treated in different ways in similar movies. Amongst imdb's suggestions is eternal sunshine which is brilliant enough to keep my criticism down. Being agnostic i am very interested in most religions ancestral wisdom, and cautious about their litteral or anachronic interpretations. right now i would much rather focus my concerns towards nature than towards any rule of men.
Sure enough, most westerners will get enthusiastic at cutting edge medicine, levitating monks, trippy fractals and astronomy. To me however, the whole movie was dark and claustrophobic, very reminding of the anthropocentric nature of modern society.
you seem to care a lot about this movie and it did reach you on an emotionnal level.
Getting personnal in a discussion often comes from a lack valid arguments.
Saying you were disturbed by words i used, yet werent you disturbed at the pain and perversity most obviously portrayed by the inquisitor's scenes?
Or is it because such mainstream content is overlooked and unnamed ?
With that sort of content being treated as anecdotic, i do not expect this "average" person you speak of to be receptive to the tortured nature of the protagonists relationship. to the relationship between the main character and his boss. to the recurring attitude and expression on their faces.
Which kind of graphic content and language would be required for a movie to be described as suggestive of sexuality ? Would it apply solely to porn movies ?
Can you relate this to necrophilia ?
there is no reason to label my analysis as a philosophy, nor my confidence as a manipulative influence.
we are receptive on different filters, with different levels of awareness.
i enjoyed your further detailed argumentation :)
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oklar17
12 years ago
yes, the plot had potential. composition and play, still, are questionnable.
you chose to retain an idealistic and naive view of the movie, what will apppear to you as poetic and spiritual seems like an obvious flag to me.
i chose to take it for granted and rather focus on how the message is conveyed and what the producer appealed to. this absolute love theme has been treated in different ways in similar movies. Amongst imdb's suggestions is eternal sunshine which is brilliant enough to keep my criticism down. Being agnostic i am very interested in most religions ancestral wisdom, and cautious about their litteral or anachronic interpretations. right now i would much rather focus my concerns towards nature than towards any rule of men.
Sure enough, most westerners will get enthusiastic at cutting edge medicine, levitating monks, trippy fractals and astronomy. To me however, the whole movie was dark and claustrophobic, very reminding of the anthropocentric nature of modern society.
you seem to care a lot about this movie and it did reach you on an emotionnal level.
Getting personnal in a discussion often comes from a lack valid arguments.
Saying you were disturbed by words i used, yet werent you disturbed at the pain and perversity most obviously portrayed by the inquisitor's scenes?
Or is it because such mainstream content is overlooked and unnamed ?
With that sort of content being treated as anecdotic, i do not expect this "average" person you speak of to be receptive to the tortured nature of the protagonists relationship. to the relationship between the main character and his boss. to the recurring attitude and expression on their faces.
Which kind of graphic content and language would be required for a movie to be described as suggestive of sexuality ? Would it apply solely to porn movies ?
Can you relate this to necrophilia ?
there is no reason to label my analysis as a philosophy, nor my confidence as a manipulative influence.
we are receptive on different filters, with different levels of awareness.
i enjoyed your further detailed argumentation :)
Well, you've proved very well that you're incapable of having an actual reasonable debate with, as any points I make will just be disregarded by you, so I'll just leave you with the only logical comment I can think of...
Watch from 2:10 to 2:20 to hear my thoughts. Good day sir! :]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-2E3_vfxfw
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inemtsev
12 years ago
Man, you squeezed every bit of negativity you could out of this movie. *Troll Alert* Try to see the positive things in life, you'll live longer.
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mr-bryce
11 years ago
yeah there definitely was a pattern of negative material in this movie :) also i would say overly positive people tend to live short and confused. funny you say that actually because i m quite confident on longevity prospects, and i doubt it to be unrelated to that critical sense so inconvenient to most ;) you should get rid of the troll fog, get some real tools to process arguments with more clarity.
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kangkim
11 years ago
It is you that failed in the debate mr bryce. You wrote a long response unrelated to the questions he asked. You just layered bs up on bs and was all over the place without actually addressing anything worth while. I will leave with a great complement towards you; you are one the better trolls I have seen. I very much like this style of not going for the fast cheap shots, rather slathering it across the floor so mere mortals slip on it. Bravo.
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