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Speaking as a gay man...


Surprised no one's remarked about how glaringly HOMOEROTIC this film is. Unlike with most American action pic duos, where the connection stems primarily form personalities, these two are svelte, athletic, and more graceful in their movement than they would be allowed to be in Hollywood. And plotwise (for what that's worth) the only female character is one guy's sister, so there's no "who get's the girl" tension. I usually find action films too mindless to interest me, but after watching these two boys ogle each other for 80 minutes, I'd LOVE to see a sequel!

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I think the only reason why no one has remarked about it is because we weren't looking for it.

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Nah, only italians.

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"It is a bit gay but thats europeons for you their all a bit meterosexual"

Is that coming from the nation that brought us 'what cowboys get up to when they're away from home for long periods of time'?

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Oh dang. I'm from the US and I have say... touché. :-\

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I'm a gay guy, and I didn't think Damien and Leito were romantically interested in eachother at all.

Seriously, two guys can't even look at eachother nowadays without somebody hurling the gay card at them.

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Completely agree. There's no "who gets the girl tension" because it's not a formulaic Hollywoood flick.

We get so used to a typical routine in films that if the routine is broken and the unwritten rules are not adhered to, we think it's so odd that we have to look for a reason. For example: is it because it's gay?

I don't think so personally.

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Wow, it's so refreshing to see a gay dude say this. Unfortunately most of the posts by gay people I see on IMDB are about how two characters are obviously gay for each other.

Of course I'm sure there are lots of intelligent gay posters that just don't feel the need to bring their sexuality into their posts.

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holy *beep* u probably don't even remember this post anymore but man I feel an urgent need to second that touché :D

damn, je seconde ton touché!

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I know who the hell watches action flicks to see how gay a duo are hahaha the poster is stupid as sh!t!

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Perhaps no one said anythig becuase it wasn't important.

To be honest, I'm sick of film makers who feel the need to tack on a love story to an action film that really didn't need it.

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Yeah, I agree that the "good guy gets the girl at the end" has become somewhat Hollywood formula.

The most we get is Leito's sister kissing Damien on the lips at the end before they part ways. It leaves the rest to the imagination.

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That isn't filmmakers, that's marketing. The studio wants there to be some sort of love story to sucker in a few female dollars.

To quote Guillermo del Toro on why he has yet to secure funding for his adaptation of "At the Mountains of Madness," "The studio is very nervous about the cost and it not having a love story or a happy ending, but it's impossible to do either in the Lovecraft universe."

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It was cute how the two of them were looking all lovey dovey at each other.

Oh sweet mystery of life at last I have found yuuuuuu

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That's the funny thing about you gay people, especially in english countries. You think you see gay people everywhere. All of this reminds me of MaCarthism where everyone things there is a commie hiding under every bed.

You are seeing too much into things. Is this tendency a mostly Anglo-Saxon phenomenon? The rest of europe does not seem to give a crap about what other people are doing and just go on with their own lives.

This sort of busybody behavior is one of the things I hate about living in North America.

Most Europeans would probably tell you that they don't give a crap if you are a "gay man". Your incite into the film is no more accurate regardless of who you screw.

I don't preface my comment as "speaking as a straight man" because it is completely irrelevant. This movie was an action flick, not a love story or soft core porn.

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You know, I absolutely agree. Speak as a gay man if you want, and if you want to imagine a homoerotic context, then fair play to you. It's equally as likely that the movie just left out any aspects of external relationships, sexual preferences or any other nonsense, just because it wanted you to focus on the main plot, and the action.

Besides. Name me one 'buddy cop' movie where there ISN'T any homoeroticism at all! Even Lethal Weapon could potentially have moments, an ambiguous glance, or a trhowaway comment, that might indicate to someone who wanted to look depply enough at the sub-context, that Danny Glover was ready to rip Mel Gibson's trews off with his teeth...! Fortunately, to the rest of the movie-going population, the relationships in buddy-cop action movies stay platonic.

..and this is not an attack on anyone's sexuality either, before the original poster starts spouting accusations of homophobia. I'm gay myself, but I can at least enjoy an action movie without asking questions of 'Is he/isn't he...'

Just enjoy the movie for what it is. If you fancy the lead actors, then enjoy the eye-candy, and let your imagination run wild in your own time...but please don't try to incite sub-contexts that just were not there.

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It's the same with Jews. We see Jews everywhere. (not in this movie though, lol)

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I agree! I'm straight and I see straight people everywhhere. At the mall, the grocery store, yet never at the gay bar....


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aukkonen : depending where you come from, what "signals" that a person is possibly gay changes quite a lot. Here in France, when I first arrived, like a typical N American male I had clunky rings with semi-precious stones set into them... typical in N America but considered as gay here (I arrived in the early 70's). That I also wore a gold chain and an ear-ring (on the right! omigod!) clinched it for everyone.

As for me... EVERYONE in France and Italy seemed gay to me. Why? Because N Americans didn't dress in such a sophisticated fashion unless they were gay.

As for the way a film is shot, it can or cannot accentuate the homo-erotic. If you notice it, good. If you don't, who cares? But I suspect that Europeans are more "artsy-fartsy in their attitudes, meaning that they can't just SHOOT a film, they will try and make it "artistic". A bit pretentious sometimes...but when it comes to images, this lends itself to shooting something in a homoerotic way more easily than in America, because European men are less vulnerable about their own virility... so they are less threatened by homoerotic images than American men are. An American film-maker will probably try and avoid such homoeroticism on purpose therefore, so as not to lose too much of his possible audience. A European film-maker doesn't have to worry about that.
Example: Ang Lee's Brokeback Mountain... gorgeously shot, but NOT homoerotic in its imagery particularly. (Compare it to the images in A Single Man by Tom Ford, and you'll see the difference immediately.)But that is also because Ang Lee isn't gay and Tom Ford is; Lee was probably less courageous about his presentation of overt sexuality.

And the reason Europeans "don't give a crap" as you say is probably linked to the fact that Europeans are generally less religious than N Americans... so homosexuality doesn't bother them in the same way (then again, neither does sex...except for the British!)

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Well, say what you want, I will see this movie tomorrow hehe

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In this day & age, there are still people who post dumb messages like the one Future_Actor just made.

Like I said, I berated the original poster, not cos he's gay, but because he was trying to read too much into the context of the film.

Future_Actor. You should be ashamed of yourself. You make even Westboro Baptists seem angelic. Signed Everyone!

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I think the self proclaimed Future Actor is in desperate need of a hug.


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Now, when you say "gay", is that code for...French?!!!

It's only a movie...

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I'm a straight girl, but I can understand where you are coming from. I think they put in the sister kissing the guy at the end just to make it look like they weren't gay, but it's blatantly obvious.

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"'m a straight girl, but I can understand where you are coming from. I think they put in the sister kissing the guy at the end just to make it look like they weren't gay, but it's blatantly obvious."

What exactly made them look like they were gay?

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I was thinking the same thing -- a movie can be HOMOEROTIC without being gay. The characters don't have to be gay or even have gay undertones, but I was watching this thinking how gay men must really be enjoying the action. I was also wondering if either of the actors were gay in real life -- there was just something about how they moved and carried themselves that seemed to suggest it to me. Maybe I'm stereotyping, but most straight guys don't have the physique or agility, not to mention fashion sense that the two leads possess.

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Apparently you haven't been to france.

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Well thank you, OP, I'll be seeking this one out. ;-)

Comparing homosexuality to McCarthyism? Please. Not everyone is a piece of trash like "Perez Hilton."

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So by your logic, the new James Bond, Michael Phelps (greatest Olympian ever), Brad Pitt, Gerard Butler and Christian Bale are all gay just because they have good physiques and they dress snazzy? I would think that is they looked like that it would be to impress women, not other men.

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