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Seriously!!! I don't understand why haters waste their time!!!!!!


If you dislike Ashlee, her music, and her acting, then why do you even bother posting anything on here? That is so ridiculous!! Evidently, she got to you enough to make you want to talk about her, right? Isn't that the point of PR? Hmmmm...yes, I think it is. There is no such thing as bad press or publicity. Anything keeping your name out there!!! She has a movie, Undiscovered, coming out August 26th and oh...by the way, she does have an album coming, October 18th...so what now, haters? I can tell you that I'll be there to buy it!! I love her and I can't wait!!!

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Because this is not a fan board, it's a board for EVERYBODY to voice their opinions. But all the arguing and name-calling that goes on between the "fans" and "haters" is a little idiotic and immature.

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I know this isn't a fan site, but I don't understand why people would take time out of their day just to criticize someone else...that seems like a huge waste of time to me, but whatev...

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I don't understand why people take time out of thier day to pledge thier alleigance to this talentless hack. I wouldn't look at it as a waste of time. More as a passtime.

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I guess I'm just above talking badly about people I don't know and have no reason to judge...but I can see that all of you are not...that's cool...do what you do!!

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couldn't have put it better myself.

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I'm not saying I've never said a bad thing about any person before...my point is that you should talk *beep* about someone you don't know!!! I wouldn't say I know her, but I have met her, and she is a super nice and sweet girl. I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to me, talking badly about someone is a complete waste of time...time in your day that you'll never get back...and you have nothing to gain from it. Now yes...if you see her on TV and you say, "Man, I can stand her" or whatev...then that's cool, I guess. It just seems useless to write on a message board for her show that you don't like her. But do what you do...who am I to judge?

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I never asked anyone to stop...I just wondered why people who hate her so much would take the time out of their day to but their feelings on a message board...but whatev...I just don't get it! It seems pointless!

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Why do we post on here? Here's a list:

1: It's fun seeing what all you deluded Ashlee Simpson fans say to our much wittier, smarter, and, in general, well thought-out responses to your insane topics.

2: It is NOT a waste of time. This just so happens to be a newfound hobby of mine. :)

3: It's not pointless. For me, I'm trying to get you idiots to see just how idiotic you are for liking somebody who has no raw talent, unlike her backup singers. (From songs of Ashlee's that I've made myself listen to, I ended up listening to her backup singers instead of her because they're actually not half bad.)

4: Did I mention the fun factor?

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ASHLEE SUCKS! SHE WAS CANCELLED!! BOTH HER AND HER SISTER HAVE NO TALENT!!

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Yeah...ok...sure...just keep telling yourself that!! (#'s 1,2,3, and 4!)

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here's an idea! Why don't you post some reasons why we should stop? It's obvious that your gonna call it a waste of time over and over so why don't you really think about what your saying? Telling haters to stop hating? is there any sense in that?

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1: It's fun seeing what all you deluded Ashlee Simpson fans say to our much wittier, smarter, and, in general, well thought-out responses to your insane topics.

So, basically what you're saying is that you don't have life.

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"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time"

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"I just wondered why people who hate her so much"

1. She has no talent.. or at least if she does have any, it has not yet been expressed for the world to see.

2. She rose to fame through her (even more) talentless older sister; combined with the manipulations of her arm-twisting slavedriving **** of a father.

3. Although she is 'pretty', she is not 'glamorous', 'gorgeous', or anything else so exceptional that I need to hear about her on the news every fricking week. Yet I somehow do even though she hasn't actually contributed to or participated in anything newsworthy that week; this is very bothersome. I'd rather hear about how the Gates Foundation was helping some small 'third world' village, or how some doctor was doing pro bono work and actually helping peoples lives. These are the things that matter... what color Ashlee's hair is this week? Nobody cares about self obsessed 'pop artists' besides clueless teenyboppers... so get her crap off the news! She is NOT news!

4. I don't care how many people say 'everybody does it'... If you're a musician, then you play and/or sing your own *beep* you DO NOT lip synch; if you're more focused on the dancing than the actual music part, then how dare you call yourself 'musician', 'artist' or anything to that effect. What the hell does 'live' mean if they're 'singing' along to their CD and not really singing at all?

Sorry to the choreographers out there, but when I listen to music I actually want the musicians to focus on their music and not all the dancing and jumping around the stage crap that you can't help yourself from suggesting to the 'performer'! Most people in my age range agree and in fact, almost all men agree that 'pop music' is utter crap these days, and people like Joe Simpson and his talentless #2 definitely have their share of the blame for this.

Basically once the 'performer' starts to focus on their complex dance moves and multiple wardrobe changes between sets, they forget the reason that people wanted to see them in the first place.. the music. Anybody who starts their career off on that wrong foot will never ever understand why they are a complete joke, regardless of their sales; nor will they ever understand why so many people will always think of them as a joke. Vanilla Ice anybody? Ashlee's doing that same thing, except instead of being a poser, she's just being a cash driven loser. Don't write what 'sells', write what you feel; and if it's good, it will sell.

People like Ashlee who cannot do a live performance without lip synching will not _ever_ get a single dollar from the pockets of people like me... she is a nobody who unfortunately has a daddy with a lot of cash to blow to promote her. If she actually had talent she could be interesting, but that's not the case; so she is simply a celebrity whore trying to max out her 15 minutes.

5. Name _any_ other person who has ever been booked as 'musical talent' on Saturday Night Live simply based on album sales to teenage girls? By the way, that's the core target demographic of all of these talentless young ladies who have made 'pop' music into the retched trainwreck it is these days. I do not care if she's selling hundreds of thousands of albums... they are to barely pubescent young women; I have absolutely NO desire to allow them to set the agenda for entertainment... but money talks and gullible young girls keep buying this pre-packaged crap, so sadly the evil cycle continues.

I wish I could make Lorne Michaels suffer an intense migraine for letting her get on the show in the first place... He is supposed to filter the 'talent' from the talent. Maybe Jessica had to bribe him into that one... don't think Ashlee's got enough to do that depth of persuasion. ^^

6. She needs to be disliked for the simple reason that she's a complete and utter sellout and yet acts as if she's a 'true artist'. What a joke! Being a true artist means writing your own songs, playing an instrument (a bad voice doesn't count), singing each and every time you have a live audience, and most importantly.. to never ever ever take yourself so damn seriously. If you are good people will hear about you and you will get a following... if you need to promote yourself as much as Ashlee's crew does it just shows how little real substance there is beneath.

7. Only a really rude little self centered silver spoon bitch like her would dare to curse out a lowly McWorker and then think she was being cool afterwards. It doesn't take a lot of brains to pick on the slow people.. way to go Ash.. you probably lost your #1 fan that day!

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1. So what if she doesn't have any talent, why shouldnt people like her because of that? By your reasoning everyone should hate downs syndrome people because they can't draw or sing or dance or whatever well, and thats plain mean.

2. And why is that a reason to hate her? Everyone has to start somewhere, it's the same as being recognised by a music label any other way.

3. Since when has Ashlee Simpson been on any real news programmes? As in ones that aren't about gossip and the like. Besides if anyone you're of fan of was on the news for any reason I'm sure you wouldn't care.

4. Singing's changed, get over it. When people go to a concert they want a show these days, not a person sat on a stool with a guitar singing what the fan could of just of easily as heard as if they listened to the CD. If she doesn't want to sing live that's her choice, although she does sing live half the time anyway, not that you'd actually know unless you'd been to see her, which you obviously haven't as you 'really hate her' so much.

5. It's suprising how you know so much about an artist seeing as you hate them. What do you do stand in the shop seeing that there are mainly teenage girls buying the CD. Oh and fyi pop doesn't exist in the mainstream anymore, it has it's cycles, that's why its 'popular' music, it was popular in the 80's then punk was more popular, then it was back in the 90's, and since 2000 it's all been R'n'B crud. There's hardly any pop music about nowadays, the genres crap at the moment.

6. Again how do you know she acts as if she's a true artist? Unless you watch her show which is extremely sad as I don't even do that.

7. Oh come on. As if you haven't ever laughed about the idiots that serve in McDonalds before. I highly doubt you're nice to everyone.

Seriously, everyone is just jumping on the 'it's-cool-to-hate-ashlee-simpson-cause-she-like-messed-up-on-snl' bandwagon and it's stupid. I'm not even that big a fan, I just hate people that do things because it's cool and follow trends, and it's kinda obvious someone's gonna say 'well ashlee does that' even when she doesn't, name one other singer that sounded like her when she came out.

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Please keep in mind that it's the net effect of all of those points that makes her not worthy of being spammed so often on the various types of media.

However since you responded point by point, I'll counterstance so you understand where I was coming from. After a basic review...

I'm not bashing her as a person, as much as I am as a 'celebrity'. Before Jessica became famous, it's possible that Ashlee was a nice girl - however money and fame have clearly gone to her head... and not just a little bit either. She thinks she's 'hot *beep* when she's not.

The same exact media that is constantly pushing her on us also comes here to see what the fans and non-fans alike have to say. It's hardly fair to have the only comments on here to be made by either fans trying desperately to felch her, or by so called 'haters' who can easily toss names but who don't really post anything very substansitive. I just want the media folks who come in here to realize that most of us do not view her as a celebrity, and that this unnecessary attention on her is almost as bad as that lavished upon Paris Hilton. Luckily Ashlee is no where near as bad as Paris, however she's still not what she pretends to be - and that is annoying. She's not 'star worthy', nor is her sister - who is very attractive yet so utterly clueless that she cannot distinguish the difference between chicken and fish meat!!!

1. Having no talent isn't a bad thing, except when you act like you do. Everybody has their own strengths and weaknesses, as we are meant to... accentuating 'talents' you don't actually possess is fake and wrong.

Of course people with Down's Syndrome should not be mocked for making false claims like 'talent', however people such as Ashlee are not subject to that same prohibition... unless that is, you're claiming she is indeed mentally handicapped?

2. You claim that everybody 'has to start somewhere' with the general false assumption that she would have EVER had the chance to record an album if her sister's cleavage and pretty face hadn't allowed her rise to prominence. Fact is, she's riding her sister's coattails, and Jessica is overextended 'talent' as it is. Not everything in the world is 'buy one get one free' - however Joe Simpson wants both of his daughters to be rich and famous so he gets his VERY sizable cut.

It's about greed, not actual talent. Ashlee wouldn't have a chance without big sister and the 'twins' there - so why should she have a chance WITH them... I've seen much greater displays of talent in junior high school talent competitions; out of people who don't even begin to think they are 'star' caliber.

3. The way you spelled 'programmes' tells me that you speak some form of UK-inspired English. So you're from the UK, Canada, AU, NZ, etc... but not the US. Here in the US, she's spammed on us in all sorts of 'news' shows as well as the typical hollywood fluff shows. Ashlee doesn't belong on EITHER.

If 'Access Hollywood' or a typical US 'entertainment news' show wants to talk about Angelina and Brad's baby it is annoying enough, but when they waste time on Ashlee it's totally wrong.

When they even mention her name on more legitimate shows, it's way over the top. The unfortunate problem we have in the US is that we for the most part no longer have independent television networks, radio stations, magazines, newspapers, etc - they are all owned by one of only a few major syndicates. These syndicates of course want to push product and keep revenue flowing - so now unfortunately instead of actually providing legitimate 'news', many of these shows now only try to push 'new product' from their labels (and others with whom they have back scratching deals arranged).

The sad fallout effect of this is that people who NEVER would have even been allowed in the green room of shows like The Tonight Show, now are actually 'featured entertainers'. People like me dislike this sad transparent lust for money out of Hollywood/New York. Especially when their 'product' isn't even any good... if they're going to spam us with their 'new thing', they can at least waste some dollars to scout out 'new things' that are actually legitimately talented.

Why don't they take all of the time currently allocated to Ashlee and all of the other 'teenybopper musicians' and actually focus it on people like Jewel, Alicia Keys, Cheryl Crow or any number of other women who legitimately have huge talent? Simple... they don't push what's good - they're trying to maximize profits at the cost of everything else - even 'selling their souls' in the process. They know that Jewel and Alicia Keys' lyrics are far too complex for most of the younger teen females who buy this pre-packaged crap. Instead of doing a real talent search, it's easier (as in far LAZIER) to just hire somebody like Ashlee Simpson to record (they don't write it, they don't play instruments, and they can barely sing) whatever bad uninspired lyrics the hack who is their current chief lyricist put out for that year's allotment of teenybopper discs.

The music industry doesn't care which of their 'brand names' you buy, as long as you do indeed buy one of them - and unfortunately this has resulted in an overall deep descent in quality. The same basic theme has happened in 'big studio' film and network television as well, although the teenyboppers are much more blatant. If you buy her crap, you're one of the sheep.

4. No, singing hasn't changed - but like I mentioned above, who owns the right to things HAS. Since these acts like Ashlee Simpson really cannot focus on actual talent (since there's little if any), they are forced to try and divert your attention with elaborate stage shows and what have you. ANYTHING to get your attention off the fact that the 'singer's voice is cracking and terribly off key, and they they are quite clearly tone deaf.

It's really sad that these stage shows, which originally showcased inspired visions by truly talented performers like Pink Floyd, Alice Cooper, The Who, etc. have been stolen by the teenybopper crowd. What's even sadder is that most kids these days don't seem to get that basic fact. Stage shows were meant to take you to another place, or to present you with imagery and metaphors about the music you were hearing - now it's an excuse to hire all sorts of relatively cheap dancers and basically anything to take your attention off how completely and unquestionably untalented the 'performer' is.

Unless they announce at the start of the show that they've got a cold or whatever, and really either need to lip sync or they'd have to cancel the show; anybody who lip syncs instead of actually singing before a live concert audience should be completely subject to the will of the mob.

Once again, these same 'brands' that arrange the 'talent' also arrange the tours and they don't care about actual artistic integrity - all they want is to produce a 'quality' (in their minds) show, so the little teenyboppers will come back. The problem is that the 'quality' of live music depends much more on it actually being LIVE MUSIC than the fact that the meat popsicle of the year is indeed standing on a stage in the same building as you are. The 'music company' accountants know just how bad this 'talent' is and so they in many cases won't allow them to sing live even if they want to - since for the most part the 'talent' couldn't do a good live show (with actual singing) if they tried.

The perfect exampls of this was Hanson the group who 'sang' "Mmm, bop" several years ago. When they 'performed' 'live' on the Today Show, it was quite funny to see the three Hanson brothers (one at guitar, one at bass and another at drums) on the main stage yet immediately behind them were... guess what??? Yep, that's right! A guitarist, a bass player and a drummer! Actual professional musicians who COULD play... When you watched the kids 'play' it was quite clear their instruments were miked up, but were turned off at the mixer - the 'lead guitarist' wasn't even moving his left hand when the lead guitar had clearly changed chords several times throughout the song. Same thing with drums and the bass. Their lips never matched the voices either, so they were syncing on top of this all.

This is my point... Music actually used to be musicians - regardless of age. When Stevie Wonder started out his career as a child performer, he was actually performing himself - each and every song.

People like me do not in any way accept the corporate assumption that we won't notice... it's terrible!

5. Notice my previous comments about how much spam comes out about these 'stars'. It's hard to not be exposed to far too much in the US - even if you're not a fan. Also, the more legitimate publications like Rolling Stone aren't at all afraid to call it like they see it - and they've shed much light on pathetic excuses for 'stars' like Ashlee. I highly recommend it if you've never read it. They're proud to bite the hand that feeds them, if it deserves to be.

6. See above.. she's not a star; and she's not even good at pretending to be one. She's clearly very awkward looking in just about everything she does.

7. You're right - on occasion if they've screwed up my order, and try to make excuses instead of fixing it, I have been rude. There's a big difference, however, between ordering 5 sandwiches and receiving 3 - then demanding to speak to the manager if the McWorker who screwed up refuses to immediately correct the mistake; and her 'performance' of crawling up onto the counter and screaming at the McWorker and belittling them.

What you or I do when 'McWorkers go bad' is post a legitimate grievance; what she did deserves a large fine for breaking a series of Health Code statutes (she placed her footwear on a serving surface if you hadn't noticed) and for just being a bitch, especially since she's a 'celebrity' and the McWorker didn't do anything wrong in the first place other than apparently stare at her a little bit. That's what she needs to expect for signing up to be their 'artist of the year'.

As to your last comment, no it's not some bandwagon - and if you look at my posting date it was nearly 4 months ago that I made this post you replied to. For me it's not about 'being cool and dissing somebody whose fun to diss', it's about making sure that young people who know that she's fake but are afraid to tell their teenage friends they feel that actually have some real assertions to make besides 'she sux b4llz d00d!'. It's possible I'm one of the people leading your 'bandwagon', but if so it's unintentional... I just call it as I see it, and Ashlee is annoying. That and of course to let the media understand how transparent their terrible Frankensteins are these days...

Now if they actually promoted young people with real talent, none of this would be necessary - so please blame the record execs who are too lazy to scout out talent, and not me... :P

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If you dislike Ashlee, her music, and her acting, then why do you even bother posting anything on here? That is so ridiculous!!


Because this site is for people to discuss the merits (or lack there of) of this particular show.
Those of us who find displeasure with corporate rock, crammed down our throats by Geffen, MTV and Clear Channel have a right to point out the idiocy that is "The Ashlee Simpson Show" .

If you like her, that's fine, more power to you, but people who don't like her, have every right to voice their opinions as well.

Personally, one of the reasons I got on the Anti-Ashlee band wagon was her assertations that she was a "serious" post punk artist, and when I watch the show, she's shopping with her mom, gushing about how a T-shirt is "super cute" (and I don't remember Johnny Rotten, John Doe, The Ramones or Joe Strummer using "Flirt" as a self descriptive adjective nearly as much as she does).

So all in all, the reason I dislike her (I don't Hate any one) is because she is a pre-fab form of entertainment, not unlike the Monkees or the Spice Girls. Were she original, or wrote (or sang) her own songs, I would be willing to re-evaluate my (low) opinion of her.

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you hit the nail right on the head. santadog. Is that in any relation to the residents?

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You betcha!

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nice nice. residents kick ass. see there's a band worth paying money for!

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"Seriously!!! I don't understand why haters waste their time!!!!!!"

For the same reason that fanatics waste their time protesting their adoration and admiration.

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That and someone sewing her sister Jessica's mouth shut.

No, no, no, don't tug on that. You never know what it might be attached to.

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because when we're bored she's the worst! thing we can think of

-Riley
making her point

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Because, to put it as bluntly as possible, she is a talentless hack who is only in the spotlight due to sharing the same last name and DNA strands as her marginally more capable sister.

Her Milli Vanilli moment should have been the end of her career. Due to her familial ties and strong PR presence, along with the vapid black hole subsisting for brain matter possessed by her fans who wouldn't know true musical and vocal talent if it crawled up their leg, ensured that we'll have an extended 5 minutes to her 15.

Yes there is such a thing as bad press. Anyone who spews out that old naive cliche knows nothing about the nature of the beast of the business.

Ashlee, or however the hell you spell it, is just one more pretty face with minimum talent along with the britneys, paris houstons and other modern bubblegum queens that feel the need to not just stink up the airwaves but the fashion, cosmetics, film, television, etc. industries. go compare the music, lyrics, sensuality and talent of someone like PJ Harvey with that moronic musical mental masturbation of ashlee 'i know true angst because my boyfriend of two months broke up with me and i was soooooooo heartbroken i dented my lexus' simpson.

Jesus wept....

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I THINK SHES AWESOME!!!!I LOVE HER!!!

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ok. everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and they have the right to air those opinions. i like ashlee simpson and enjoy her music. that is my opinion.

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Why? To piss off idiots like you!

When you laugh, the world laughs with you. when you weep, you weep alone.

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