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What If Venom Wasn't In Spider Man 3?


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Spider-Man 3 may still be the highest grossing Spider-Man film at the worldwide box office, but it left audiences with a bad taste in their mouths, ending Sam Raimi's acclaimed trilogy. Many complained of the film being too crowded with multiple storylines that just didn't quite fit together. Chief among those arcs was the misuse of Spider-Man's most popular antagonist. Venom. But what if the symbiote was removed from the film entirely? What if they focused on properly finishing the stories of the characters we had been following for 5 years at that point? What if we got a version of this movie that was on the same level as the first 2? Listen up webheads, because FanScription is swinging your way to save the day!

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No, remove Sandman from the movie because he was lame as shit. Keep Venom in the movie, have him and Harry team up with each other to take down Peter, and the big showdown at the end still could have happened.

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I was going to say the same thing. Remove Sandman, I know I know how could there be a Spiderman trilogy without the ever so popular fan favorite sandman? He was shoehorned into the uncle ben storyline for what reason exactly? Maybe because there has never been a good sandman story in the comics, the first time Spiderman fought him he used a vacuum cleaner to defeat him.

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Yeah... You know I love the Sandman storyline (retcon aside), but it really is the piece that doesn't fit.

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I don't know why they had to connect Sandman to Uncle Ben,the case seemed close in Spider-Man 1,It just turned into a conspiracy theory,you don't always need to have a villain be personal with the hero,Its really cliche especially since Sandman doesn't have any connection to Spiderman or Ben in the books. In the books Flint Marko is just your generic criminal hes not some big threat like Doc Ock,Venom,Green Goblin,Kingpin,Carnage or Hobgoblin,he was reformed at one point and even helped the Avengers. They already seemed to revamp him by giving him a dying daughter,why go further and connect him to uncle Ben? Get Rid of Venom and the Sandman - Ben Connection and i think the movie would have been better.

Sam Raimi grew up on the classic comics,he mentioned he wasn't really a venom fan

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This film suffers from too Many cooks in the kitchen from what the filmmakers want which was the (Vulture & Sandman) and what the studio wanted (Venom) not to mention since these films weren’t exactly going by the comic books they seem To jam a bunch of their own kind of turn on the characters.

So that even the actors look Strained returning to this film. As it feels like the studios has stretched the creativity so far at that point that they made the film stay in certain guidelines that was the basics for superhero movies at the time but didn’t feel like anything fresh or new. Not to mention the cast was getting a little long in tooth for their roles. As the beautiful thing about cartoons and comics is that the characters never really Age. They can stay fresh for a new generation.

Though at least as it is a Sam Raimi film after all there are some great scenes. The creation of sandman. Venom attaching itself to Eddie Brock. Peter Parker getting rid of his venom Suit and though much derided and making little to no sense the dance sequence with emo peter. Of course with the magnitude of a film this size there is a great number of hubris on screen. This is obviously the most ridiculous of all the films as it feels all over the place.

Though in watching this film other than the disappointed box office returns and diminishing quality of THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN movies you can understand the reboots of the movies if you are a comic book fan. As it seems Spider-Man is the Superman of the Marvel Universe. So Spider-Man has many different volumes and series with little crossover to put out more stories. So with the series and different titles yet different castings. It shows different versions and visions in style and casting.

Grade: D+

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