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How the heck did Harry disappear like that?


Peter sees him eating pie at the restaurant and as soon as that truck passes by he's nowhere to be seen.

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He disappeared into the Plot Hole.



"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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That should be a meme! Brilliant!

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 Now if we could just make Peter's dancing disappear into the Plot Hole.



"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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Now if we could just make Peter's dancing disappear into the Plot Hole.


Along with terrible Mandarin twist from Iron Man 3. In fact, I want Iron Man 2 and 3 to disappear into the hole with no bottom. Dance scene from Spider-Man 3 never bothered me, since Peter in the comics was acting like a complete dork at times.

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What does Iron Man 2 and 3 have to do with this? Wait, I get it...You recognize me and WeirdRaptor as being those who enjoyed those films and you want to call us both out on it and try to grind our gears. Grow up, buddy...And yes, Peter dancing was cringe inducing, him acting like a dork isn't unwelcome because comic accuracy but considering this was him being manipulated by the symbiote and the scene was supposed to sell the idea that he's a new and unlikeable guy...It fell flat big time.

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That's why I have that guy on Ignore. I haven't even seen his comment, replied to it, or paid it two thoughts.



"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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That's why I have that guy on Ignore. I haven't even seen his comment, replied to it, or paid it two thoughts.


I don't know what to say, so I'll just leave this meme here.

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What does Iron Man 2 and 3 have to do with this?


And why does it make you so insecure that I mentioned those movies? You mention DC movies all the time on Marvel topics.

Wait, I get it...You recognize me and WeirdRaptor as being those who enjoyed those films and you want to call us both out on it and try to grind our gears.


No, I just think that it would be appropriate to poke fun at those awful films as well. Also, this response wasn't addressed to you. So don't try to turn tables on me only because you're unable to accept when I bash MCU movies.


Grow up, buddy...


Says some guy who was extremely offended by my movie lists in which I obviously was making fun of certain celebrities and certain movies.

And yes, Peter dancing was cringe inducing


Nobody's denying that. However, I think "I'm Trevor, Trevor Sluttery." was way worse than that. Iron Man 3 was the first comic book movie that made walk out of the theater in the middle of the film. And I'm not aggravating. I did walk out of the movie, believe me or not.

him acting like a dork isn't unwelcome because comic accuracy


Was I defending that scene? I said why I don't have problems with that. I wasn't defending it.

but considering this was him being manipulated by the symbiote and the scene was supposed to sell the idea that he's a new and unlikeable guy...It fell flat big time.


I think it was the point. The symbiote have released Peter's desires. Peter's desire was to be cool and elegant. But since he's never been cool or elegant, he has no idea of how to act that way. That is why it's embarrassing. But then again, not defending it. Unlike Iron Fail 3 apologists, I'm not attacking people because they don't like something. I totally get why people hate that scene.

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And why does it make you so insecure that I mentioned those movies?

Because it has nothing to do with this movie and sounds like you were trying to initiate an argument.

You mention DC movies all the time on Marvel topics.

When? Provide me a link, I'm sure it has more merit in its use than yours does here with the last two Iron Mans.

No, I just think that it would be appropriate to poke fun at those awful films as well. Also, this response wasn't addressed to you. So don't try to turn tables on me only because you're unable to accept when I bash MCU movies.

1) Seeing as WeirdRaptor has ignored you already I can only assume you two engaged in a debate sometime back in the day and your mentioning of those movies, which he likes, was intended to annoy him.
2) Its a public discussion, anybody can get involved.


Says some guy who was extremely offended by my movie lists in which I obviously was making fun of certain celebrities and certain movies.

Extremely offended? In your dreams, pal. You'd have to do a heck of a lot more than that to get under my skin...

Nobody's denying that. However, I think "I'm Trevor, Trevor Sluttery." was way worse than that. Iron Man 3 was the first comic book movie that made walk out of the theater in the middle of the film. And I'm not aggravating. I did walk out of the movie, believe me or not.

No it wasn't. The reveal of the identity of Trevor Slattery was supposed to be humorous to downsize the threat level he had while pretending to be The Mandarian in the movie( Just an FYI, the REAL Mandarian is still kicking around in the MCU and was quite unhappy with how Aldrich Killian and Trevor Slattery soiled his image to the public). Peter's goofy antics after becoming one with the symbiotic was unintentionally comedic for the most part.

Was I defending that scene? I said why I don't have problems with that. I wasn't defending it.

It sure did sound like you were defending it...

I think it was the point. The symbiote have released Peter's desires. Peter's desire was to be cool and elegant. But since he's never been cool or elegant, he has no idea of how to act that way. That is why it's embarrassing.

And that is exactly why it failed in most people's eyes and has been the butt of many jokes regarding this film.

Unlike Iron Fail 3 apologists, I'm not attacking people because they don't like something. I totally get why people hate that scene.

Kind of rich given your attitude towards MCU fans and the last two Iron Man movies.

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Don't give this guy anymore attention. It doesn't matter how you counter his arguments. He's happy as long as you're paying attention to him.



"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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Because it has nothing to do with this movie and sounds like you were trying to initiate an argument.


1. So what? MCUbots mention DCEU movies every time when someone criticizes MCU. You don't seem to ask these type of questions to them when they do that.

2. No, I just mentioned other bunch of divisive comic book movies that many people despise.

When?


You know.

Provide me a link



When I will find it, I'll post it.

I'm sure it has more merit in its use than yours does here with the last two Iron Mans.


Huh?.. What does this point mean?

1) Seeing as WeirdRaptor has ignored you already I can only assume you two engaged in a debate sometime back in the day


Wrong. The only time when I had any kind of dispute with him wasn't even about Marvel movie. We had dispute over non-comic book movie.

and your mentioning of those movies, which he likes, was intended to annoy him.


No, I think it's just your paranoid mind suggests to you that every time when someone trashes MCU movies, there must be some kind of convoluted reason to do that.

2) Its a public discussion, anybody can get involved.


Poor excuse. If I responded to WeirdRaptor, it means that I expect answer from him. Instead, you're the one who apologizes for him.

Extremely offended?


Yes, don't deny it.

In your dreams, pal. You'd have to do a heck of a lot more than that to get under my skin...


Oh, common... How can I forget your whining about my lists. "How could you rate [insert movie name] so low?! How can you call this [insert celebrity name] a hack? You're a poor human being..."

No it wasn't.


It was, it was...

The reveal of the identity of Trevor Slattery was supposed to be humorous to downsize the threat level he had while pretending to be The Mandarian in the movie


Peter's dance scene was supposed to be humorous as well. And just because scene is meant to be humorous doesn't mean that it can't generate the level of cringe. Heck, all Adam Sandler's movies are humorous, but there's a reason why they are considered so cringey. It's not just that it has to be humorous. It has to be actually funny, which the twist from Iron Man 3 wasn't. I don't know who found that lowbrow, poop-joke garbage funny, but it definitely wasn't me.

( Just an FYI, the REAL Mandarian is still kicking around in the MCU and was quite unhappy with how Aldrich Killian and Trevor Slattery soiled his image to the public).


Great excuse... That would be as if in possible Spider-Man 4 that we never got to see, Peter would take dance lessons, and the movie would promise that the next time his dance moves would be better. (That doesn't take anything from the original bad idea.)

Peter's goofy antics after becoming one with the symbiotic was unintentionally comedic for the most part.


I think you need to be a complete idiot to think that it all was unintentional. Sam Raimi would not include something like that in the movie if he didn't see the humorous subtext of it. It was supposed to be that way. Peter tries to be sly and cool, but he never was sly or cool, thus he looks like an idiot when he tries to be such. Usually, when something in the movie becomes intentionally funny, it's usually something that is supposed to be taken seriously. For example, Martha scene in Batman v Superman is the prime example when something that is supposed to be taken seriously becomes unintentionally funny. Spider-Dance was meant to be comedic.

It sure did sound like you were defending it...


Only if you have problems with reading comprehensions. I said why I don't have problems with the scene. I wasn't defending it, since I understand why people hate it. While you defend crappy Mandarin twist, despite the fact that none of your justifications change anything about awfulness of that crappy scene.

And that is exactly why it failed in most people's eyes and has been the butt of many jokes regarding this film.


Same thing with the Mandarin twist.

Kind of rich given your attitude towards MCU fans and the last two Iron Man movies.


But how does it affect you as a person? When I say that Iron Man 3 is a piece of *beep* I don't say that you are a piece of *beep*

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Is that really the best you can do?

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Epic comment. ??

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He jumped on the floor, the guy behind Harry looks down.

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He dropped a dollar

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Peter sees him eating pie at the restaurant and as soon as that truck passes by he's nowhere to be seen.


You should ask this question about every movie that used this cliché - which is a lot. Heck, didn't Civil War had same kind of crap when Bucket all the suddenly disappeared when the car was passing by him?

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Its been a while since I saw that movie, but I don't recall anything of the sort being as eye brow raising as this moment in Spider-Man 3.

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Its been a while since I saw that movie, but I don't recall anything of the sort being as eye brow raising as this moment in Spider-Man 3.


Common, it was even in the trailers.

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Because it's a trailer and not the whole movie? Bucky does no such thing in the actual movie.

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Because it's a trailer and not the whole movie? I haven't seen the full movie since May, but last I checked Winter Soldier has more enhanced abilities


So does Harry, duh. He enhanced his strength with Green Goblin serum, remember? And it doesn't matter how enhanced your strength is - it won't help you to disappear in the matter of seconds, unless you don't have teleportation abilities. Which I'm sure Winter Soldier does not.

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You seem to have ignored my mention that Winter Soldier has decades of experience being a spy, which means blending in when he has to, Harry does not. But like I said I haven't seen the full movie in months, and what you shared was a trailer, not a full clip bozo.

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You seem to have ignored my mention that Winter Soldier has decades of experience being a spy


None of those experiences would give him the ability to disappear in the matter of one second. Few seconds - maybe. One second - no.

which means blending in when he has to


I think you have bias here, pal. You say that Harry's convenient disappearance in the matter of seconds was a problem for you, but you don't have a problem when Winter Soldier does the exact same thing. Both scenes are illogical. Don't try to point finger at one thing while ignoring the other. Both scenes don't make sense.

Harry does not.


He was training for a few years before he became the New Goblin, didn't he?

But like I said I haven't seen the full movie in months, and what you shared was a trailer, not a full clip bozo.


Trailers usually contain scenes from the films, don't they?

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I think you have bias here, pal. You say that Harry's convenient disappearance in the matter of seconds was a problem for you, but you don't have a problem when Winter Soldier does the exact same thing. Both scenes are illogical. Don't try to point finger at one thing while ignoring the other. Both scenes don't make sense.

No, no bias. I've already stated that I haven't seen Civil War in full in a long time but I don't recall if ever a part happened my eye brow raised as much as when Harry pulled it off in SM3. Refresh memory - Provide the clip from the movie which shows this, and no don't resort to using trailers( Onto that later).

Trailers usually contain scenes from the films, don't they?

Yes, but trailers are not made of full, completed clips that totally represent the finished film and are typically used to sell a section of it or the entirety of the product. That's why in the Civil War advertisements Spider-Man is not scene standing along with Team Iron Man but in the final version he is. The moment in the trailer you use was supposed to sell the idea that Steve has not forgotten about Bucky and is seeing him around in places - A common technique used to explain the psychosis a character is having in relation to the bond they have with a friend, family member, or partner. Again, provide a link to the full clip from the movie, perhaps a scene taking place before or after so context can be dissected.

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No, no bias.


Yes, so much bias.

I've already stated that I haven't seen Civil War in full in a long time but I don't recall if ever a part happened my eye brow raised as much as when Harry pulled it off in SM3.


So if you have not seen the movie for a long time, how can you deny the fact that the scene which I showed was equally as illogical as the scene from Spider-Man 3 where Harry disappears.

Refresh memory


Can't you refresh your memory on your own? Do you need to be spooned?

Yes, but trailers are not made of full, completed clips that totally represent the finished film and are typically used to sell a section of it or the entirety of the product


Civil War trailer was pretty much the opposite. Almost every shot from the trailer was in the movie. Granted, the context wasn't the same, but that's expected in the trailers.

That's why in the Civil War advertisements Spider-Man is not scene standing along with Team Iron Man but in the final version he is. The moment in the trailer you use was supposed to sell the idea that Steve has not forgotten about Bucky and is seeing him around in places - A common technique used to explain the psychosis a character is having in relation to the bond they have with a friend, family member, or partner.


Sounds like a generic excuse to justify the stupidity of the sequence. Which once again proves that you have a bias. If so, I can use your logic and say that the reason why Harry disappeared all the suddenly is because Peter is having hallucinations because of the affect that symbiote has on his mind.

Again, provide a link to the full clip from the movie, perhaps a scene taking place before or after so context can be dissected.


There is this site called "YouTube", where you can find various different segments from popular movies. Maybe you can search there.

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Whatever, loser.

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I've seen the film about last month, and I can tell you, Bucky did NOT disappear like that.

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No. That scene is only in the trailers, not in the actual movie.

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