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What is this movie about?


What is this movie about.... ?

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i agree wat is it about.....all i remeber seeing was trains and even more trains....wat was wid the whole thing on the computer....
i thought she was supposed to be about 3 months pregnant but there was not even a small bumb...

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I know.....and the book.....it seemed to be leading somewhere and then there was no mention of it. What do you think?

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I think you have missed the very essence of the film...................Psyk

I will agree with a previous user that this film let me to the realm of the imagination about the characters, but only in my sleep about 20 minutes into the film. This man is not impressed! Good coinage spent on a bottle of coke to keep me amused for the first 20 minutes!!!!!

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I am not Japaniese and have neither been nor seen Japan in the perspective of many of you writers out there, however i feel my opinion should be stated for the sake of us secular and "Cliche'd" film viewers. By all means view this film
if you are living there or have been there and are interested in their society and changing ect... however if you are going because you just feel like watching a film, then please don't, You must be incredably interested in Japanse culture, or a film geek to really appreciate this feature. You will be bored out of your wits if you have no pre-cognition about the film, or if you have no previous knowledge of the works of the writers/director. Please, heed my preachin, this a warning, spare yourself the agony, and watch it if you are a fan of the director only, no exceptions!


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u say that u have to be a film geek to really appraciate this film but i consider my self a bit of a film geek but i really did not get this film.
ireally do not understand why they put that story in, can someone please tell me the significance of it?

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What was the story?????????? What happened to the book??? Thats all I ask..what happened to the book?

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How on earth i sat through that film i shall never know. it consist of mostly pointless train journeys and there was no plot development whatsoever i.e the book, what on earth was that about i thought something was gonna happen that was the only intreasting bit of the film. and don't get me started on that computer screen what on earth was going on there.

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I know..it didnt seem to have any relevance at all did it?

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The book must be some kind of symbol or something. It must stand for something.
Was it not something to do with one of her dreams. If i remember correctly she had some wierd dream that she told her friend in the shop about and he found a book that was similar to her dream.

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Yeah but did that link with anything else in the film?

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No it didn't like i said nothing linked with anything in te film lol really weird.

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I know. So does that mean that there was no plot or was there a plot that isnt obvious?

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I personally think that the writer was suppose to have a plot but it got lost somewhere. lol

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I suppose this is not a film which has a definite plot or twists or turn-arounds as the other films. Although on the surface, this is a film consisting of discursive events that don't really amount to anything but I suppose the sum of all these events highlighted the differences in attitude between two generations. Really, IMHO this is a film about how people raised in different era try to reconcile and communicate but fail. A father's disapproval/concern about her daughter's choice is delivered in silence. A silence that reflect his contemplation of his daughter's rationale as to why she chose the way she did; a silence that reflect his resignation to the situation. The beauty of this film is that what is not spoken carries more weight than what is spoken. I could go on but i think i'd just be repeating things other reviewers/articles have mentioned, so i'll stop here.

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you really need to know ozu to get this film

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it seems the book/dream was part of her expression of angst and foreboding about her new child. if you remember, she dreamt of a baby with a face that was melting. and other frightening things about the child in the dreams, but i can't remember. then her friend gave her the fairytale book about children being possessed by demons: changelings. her dread over committing this social taboo and carrying such a heavy personal burden permeated deep into her subconscious. the result of her dreams was a search to understand her place in her family and society, though this last part wasn't expressed as well.

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The street scenes are pretty, but not half as beautiful as those of Ozu. Hou's gained worldwide fame, but I've never liked any of his films. I see in him a very dangerous tendency among Chinese directors who try to make a film out of beautiful shots plus big-name actors, but pay little attention to story & dialogues.

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I see in him a very dangerous tendency among Chinese directors... pay little attention to story & dialogues.

Yeah, such a dangerous trend. Wouldn't want to escape the must-haves of story and dialogues. Afterall, all great art must have story and dialoguse. Music and paintings are horrible art because they don't have story and dialogues. All great films must have great story and dialogues, because all meaning must be derived from great story and dialogues.

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Double Indemnity 9/10
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The real question should be, How do people with the attention spans of fruit flies and the education of second graders stumble upon these kind of films? How did you even find the time to break away from the X-Box and MTV to watch this film? You'd probably find spending your time a bit easier by staying away from complex art and sticking to the color by numbers children's book your mommy got for you. Or at least enroll in a remedial elementary English class before venturing too far onto the 'net.

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Please. The emperor clearly has no clothes. This movie is pointless, pretentious garbage. It's like a Japanese version of Richard Linklater's It's Impossible to Learn to Plow by Reading Books (and I don't mean that as a compliment).

Ozu, this certainly isn't.

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I have been thinking and thinking aout what can I say about this movie to capture it's greatness, and I finally got it. You know how sometimes you see a film so big and full and immersing that by the time it ends you feel kinda empty (for most people it's the Lord of the rings or Matrix or Star wars type of films)? well, this film is so empty that in the end, it makes you you feel full. I remember feeling more refreshed and alive after this film, than any other film i had ever seen. I can't really explain why though... It's like magic... This is DEFINITELY not a film for everyone though.

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This film has no meaning, no plot and no moral searches for life so what is goin on. this really was the worse film I have ever seen in my life. Unlike a lot of films there is no moral hidden in the film.
Everyone I went with to see this film said they did not like it. Thats bad as we are a bunch of film geaks.

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"This film has no meaning, no plot and no moral searches for life so what is goin on. this really was the worse film I have ever seen in my life. Unlike a lot of films there is no moral hidden in the film.
Everyone I went with to see this film said they did not like it. Thats bad as we are a bunch of film geaks. "

it is a boring film to some extent...even though as a chinese audience i have watched both hou hsiao hsian and ozu's films before. it could be probably the most "boring" film by hou, cos'it is actually an ozu film in disguise.

i find your remarks interesting, as your "no meaning, no plot and no moral searches" comment is really what ozu had always been trying to convey, though not deliberately, in his films. i dont wanna sound pretentious, but ozu just wanted to present our lives as they are, boring, trivial, non-dramatic and plain...there is nothing hidden, u know have to guess like in tarkovsky's , haneke's and bergman's films...But this plainness is somehow making us uncomfortable, partly because while we are trying to seek entertainment or some escape from our daily lives by going to cinema, this film just drags us back to the reality as it is.

not all of ozu's films are this "boring", and hou hsiao hsian is more "active" in many of his own films, at least in terms of dramatics that make one feel less bored.

as for myself, i am in a situation no better than u guys, i cant even remember how many rests i took during the dvd watching...oh my friday nite...i could have spent it drinking with friends in the pub. that should be more interesting! Is that? :)

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You have a good point about escaping and that this film is showing reality..... and maybe thats why it is so boring....but what most people look for in a film is escapism...and this film doesn't offer this at all.

In fact it makes things very confusing for instance that book what was that about really? Lol.

I suppose using that same reasoning you could say that perhaps life is confusing and things dont always have answers, therefore thats why many aspects of the film are never made clear.

What do you think?

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I am a big Ozu fan and I must say that apart from the cinematic style of Ozu, I do not see any resemblance of this film to any of Ozu's film. The lunch/dinner scene with the family that a lot of people are raving about is taken straight from Ozu's Tokyo story (I think??). However, the effect is dramatically different because Ozu provides a strong context and uses the scene to show us the development of the bond between the in-laws and the widowed daughter-in-law. Here it seems to go nowhere. Sorry, but this film comes nowhere near Ozu. Moreover, I did not find any of Ozu's films boring. Although I am not Japanese, I could relate to the suburban family life of Tokyo portrayed in his films. Every time I saw a film, I felt as if I was meeting long lost friends. I think it is a bit harsh to say that anyone who does not like this movie is a degenerate and a simpleton.

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this really was the worse film I have ever seen in my life.


Why do people feel the need to say this about every movie they don't enjoy? I found this movie boring but i've seen much, much, much worse movies that were downright painful to sit through (i'm still angry about having wasted an hour and a half of my life on "21 Jump Street" four years ago; i've honestly never hated a movie that much). If this is the worst movie you've ever seen, you haven't seen many movies.

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I just saw this film last night, and though I didn't really enjoy it I have to admit that it is a good film. Like Gosford Park and Burnt by the Sun, its something that fares better once you have thought about it - though I'll probably never watch it again. I would be lying if I omitted the fact that I kept falling asleep, and had to pause the machine and go fold clothes or let the dog out.

I think the truth is that we, the audience, ultimately determine a film's meaning. Any movie that manipulates the viewer, or tells him how to feel (and that's 99.99% of them, does a disservice. Art is ultimately about independent thought and feeling.

That's why this movie is so strange to most of us. It throws us an almost blank canvas, and makes us interpret it for ourselves. We read meaning into what is said (and not said), in the way characters interact with family and intimate friends vs. the way they interact with lesser acquaintances and strangers. All of this, though, is entirely subjective. On some level, it is a stirring film, but its also a potent antidote to insomnia, and that's not what we look for in a movie.

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i agree in saying that this film totally leaves its viewers to interpret the meanings behind the images we are presented. it's funny to think that that's where most of the frustration lies. by having an audience so used to films that are plot-driven, blockbuster hits (myself being one of them), the viewers (out of their natural intellectual impulses) are quick to interpret this film's unnatural compositions and minimal dialogue as "high-art" cinema seemingly made for our torture in trying to comprehend what the heck we are watching (see david lynch ;p). but we need to "reset our minds" as the film stated, and get past all that.

what is this movie about? that would be hard to say, as everyone's interpretation is subjective, including the director's. but i think that's the great thing about films like these. i personally loved the organic compositions and long takes. goodness, i don't even know how long that first shot of yoko talking on the phone in her apartment was, but it was brilliant. the subtle camera movements motivated only so much to keep her in frame, not even thinking of cutting to the landlady when she knocks on her door since she wasn't as important to the scene.

and how the almost unapparent emotions of the characters forces the viewer to invest their "own" emotions for them. yoko's dad feeling rather distressed about her sudden pregnancy, still cared for her dearly, and sharing his potatoes with her as they sat in silence eating was as much as he could display. and hajime, yoko's train fanatic friend, who has always loved her and will always be there for her regardless of her pregnancy with another man, illustrates his feelings for her through delicate cues, most obviously affectionate when he finds yoko sleeping on the train, and simply stands over her, smiling.

and the list goes on, but these are just my 2cents. i hope someone enjoyed this film just as much as i did.

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I admit that the pace is really slow but i do enjoy the film, though i can't put my finger on why. I've never watched any of Ozu's films and the only Hou films I've watched are Flowers of Shanghai and Dust in the Wind (watched it only last night). So i can't really make comments besides what's presented in the film itself. i think ur (ghiblimon) last paragraph hit home, Hajime's affection for Yoko is most subtle yet strong, conveying only by 'delicate cues' as u said such as smiling over Yoko asleep on the train, cooking food for her and attending to her when she's sick, looking up books and location of the coffee shop 'Dat' for her etc.

During the last minute of the film, I don't know why but i suddenly felt really good when the upbeat ending song came in (sang by Yo Hitoto who played Yoko) and the trains rolled by on the screen. I felt as if sunshine was beaming on my face and that life is all good. What is this about i need time to figure it out... but i think what this quiet film leaves me with is a sense of tranquil optimism. Life in the film is how daily life really is, mundane and plain, and if films are a means of 'escapism' from reality then probably this film has failed miserably in it. However, i guess that's why after watching this film i didn't have the 'come down' or 'wake up get back to the miserable reality' feeling when i watched, say, Love Actually or something (maybe this is a bad comparison)..

The film says little but carries a lot.

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Strange to reference Gosford Park in terms of this movie.

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I watched this film over several weeks. If there is a plot I have certainly missed it. Initially I was disappointed, having expected some kind of plot development. But having said that the film did appeal to me. I like the fact that it is arbitrary.

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OK, my take: this movie is pointless, albeit not totally uninteresting.

A useless, reporter girl, loosely investigates about a Chinese (dead?) artist, tells Dad and Mom she's pregnant, and that she won't marry the putative father (her Taiwanese boyfriend). Caring parents a bit annoyed. Bookseller friend likely annoyed too, but gets over it quickly and goes on recording trains and stations. It's art, so don't talk about uselessness, please. Meanwhile, useless girl drinks milk, or water, at boring home or depressing café, eats boring noodles, alone or with caring Dad and Mom, sometimes scrounges things from her landlord, and sleeps. Fortunately, we're spared useless chick on the toilet seat.

So what's interesting? I'd say, just ignore the useless protagonists (useless girl first and foremost), and enjoy the long sequence shots that show you everyday life in Tokyo. For the contemplative kind, it can be quite relaxing. Quite depressing too...

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I just watched this last night (hopefully some folks still visit this board to read my word of wisdom :-) Anyway, I agree there was little in the way of plot, substance or character development, but I, like poster Stacey Ng, found this movie curiously absorbing and, ultimately, uplifting. There was just something comforting and relaxing about watching Yoko go through the daily routine of her life. Hard to put a finger on it, but I ended up liking the movie and will watch it again some day.

One other point. There seems to be an under-current to the discussion in this thread that there are only two types of movies: big-budget blockbusters (Iron Man) and high-concept art films (Cafe Lumiere), and that if you dislike the latter than the only type of movie you could possibly enjoy is the former. Sorry folks, but it's not that simple. There are plenty of interesting, well-made, plot-driven movies out there that don't involve explosions or super heroes. I just saw "Vicky Christina Barcelona" over the weekend and enjoyed it a lot, even though it had (a) a plot (b) character developemt and (c) no exploions (though there was a bit of gunplay.) Let's show a little flexibility in our thinking, OK?
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Good question. What on earth is this movie about? If it's a homage to Ozu, it doesn't look at all to any of the films by Ozu that I've seen despite what the director intended or some critics/fans says.
The movie is pure dullness, boredom, crap enveloped in a shiny paper.
It's about the gigantic ego of Hou Hsiao-hsien. It's about how to waste money making a forgettable, inconsequential, flat and empty movie. It's a movie about nothing, and I mean it: About nothing.

What a waste of time. Watch Reygadas' "Silent Light" instead this crap-fest if you want to see some modern minimalist masterwork.
Or even better go back to the seed. Watch Bresson, Kiarostami, Bergman, Dreyer, Tarkovsky and Ozu films.

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Hou Hsiao Hsien, as well as Tsai Ming-Liang or Lisandro Alonso, are certainly among those modern minimalist names, too.

This is film is not "about". What is life about?

Even the closest thing to a "plot", which is the book she is writing, does not get a "special treatment" by the narrative, then she pursues her "dramatic objective" in the same way that we all would do in our lives: among plenty of other actions. So you're not going to see the stereotyped concatenation of scenes: "she wants to write a book about a musician, then she is in a place where she can find information about this musician, then we SEE her writing, then she keeps on reasearching and live fantastic things on this great adventure of writing a book, then she finishes the book or not, and WE SPECTATORS NEED TO KNOW WHAT TH HELL HAPPENNED TO THE BOOK!"... come on.

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this is a movie about Japan. to me it's illustrating the cultural changes happening in this generation. specifically modern woman becoming independent and this changing family structure. We see this happening in the States and other countries as well. in some of Ozu's films this is also shown - in that the younger characters are not interested to be part of an arranged marriage like their parents were.
Yoko is a freelance writer working on a story about a Taiwanese Japanese artist, the director is Taiwanese making a film about Japan, and Yo Hitoto is Taiwanese Japanese.
The documentary Metro Lumiere - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0439720/ goes over the intended meaning of the writer/director & I recommend it for those curious to understand what the film is about.

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