it is simply porn


and i would rather watch Jenna Haze instead of this boring porn movie.

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It's not porn. Porn is completely fake. Nine Songs comes as close to a relationship between a man and a woman as it gets. It's real and it's honest.

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Sex is not the only thing when you try to come close to a relationship you have to go inner.
As you read the first line of the movie below , you can understand that it is just sex they have.
"When I remember about Lisa,
I don't think about our clothes
or her work, or where she was from
or even what she said.
I think about her smell, her taste
her skin touching mine."

I am sorry to say that but they are just .uck bodies which is really common in amateur porn movies.

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It is NOT porn. Porn is about stupid "steam-hammer-fvcking" that is sooo unreal.
If you want it or not, but this movie (like "Intimacy") is not porn!

By your definition the movie "Basic Instinct" and a million others would be porn too? What do you think? Is it porn when genitals are shown?

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Movies are fake, people. Even in this film, these people only met each other a few days before filming their sex scenes. A narrative film is full of tricks and deceptions and illusions in order to construct an experience for a viewer. No matter what, it's always fake. That's the nature of movies.

Whether you call this "porn" or not is irrelevant. The fact is that real sex was entirely unnecessary for the narrative of this film. The same story could be told with the same level of effectiveness without the two leads actually having intercourse. It doesn't need to be real because it's a movie; it's not real no matter what. There's no substitute for powerful directing and convincing performances, even if the actions are "real."

It may be "mature" or "thought-provoking," but I find the film's use of real sex indefensible.

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You clearly have deep-seated issues with shame and a fear of sex. Indefensible? Indefensible against what exactly? Are you trying to have all copies of this movie burned or something? The Third Reich called and they have a few job openings available.

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pornography definition

Books, photographs, magazines, art, or music designed to excite sexual impulses. Yeah um by definition IT IS PORN!

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This is porn.

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IT IS PORN under a pretentious artsy veneer. Nothing to do with art, it is like reading playboy for the quality interviews. Plus as porn it is also mediocre.

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It's not porn. Porn is completely fake. Nine Songs comes as close to a relationship between a man and a woman as it gets. It's real and it's honest.


Its just like porn which is voyeuristic mthe characters may not have the same flamboyant names but its within the same context as porn.Theres nothing artful about it its just porn in disguise . Done by someone who is a typical liberal projecting is negative emotions onto the rest of us its insulting . Porn is fake ? than how is this real ? two complete strangers getting together to have sex on camera to create the illusion that they are in love with each other once again its no different than porn its fictional .Typical *beep* liberal nonsense do as i say not as i do . There is nothing different between this and porn even the director got ordinary people to agree to doing it because no real actor would participate in this self indulgent nonsense .Mike winterbottom its obvious is obsessed with porn this is a clear evidence of it .Porn only works if people are stimulated by what they see the actions being acted at .which this film does it trys to downplay all the aspects of porn and fails in order for it not to be porn you would have to skip all the actual acts of sex and skip to the two actors laying in bed together . Other than that it is pornographic its voyeuristic it stimulates thoses emotions .If it doesnt stimulate emotions than it doesnt work this is that idiot winterbottom playing with fire while not getting burnt .At the end of the day its all about money . People having real sex on camera for money it fails the argument of it not being porn when all signs point to it being pornographic.If you dress a duck up as a dog does it mean the duck is now a dog ? no .it means that its still a duck just dressed up as a dog there is no difference between this and porn its one and the same .

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I don't care if some dudes consider this film "porn". However IMO it is not, it's an erotic movie for an adult and open-minded audience.
'9 Songs' has been beautifully shot and edited, practically each shot was beautifully composed. That's art. The story in the other hand is kinda vague and loose, though. And the movie as a whole was an experiment as Winterbottom himself have said it. A bold if flawed experiment. I applaud him for trying new things instead of sticking to old and trite formulas.
I bet in the coming years people will be laughing at those fellows who called it "porn". Remember that once even the roman and greek sculptures were considered mere "porn".

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hehe, "an erotic movie for an adult and open-minded audience". Any time there is actual sex, it goes from erotic to harcore porn. Under this premise even the soft porn movies are erotic but vicked or other films are porn. I you want to see more movies like this just check any of the Veronika hart films or Candida Royalle, what some people call porn for females or porn for couples.

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It is porn, but porn is much more fake than this movie.

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This movie was horrible, I tried to look past it for the "art" value, but as soon as the blowjob scene came on I nearly threw up in my *beep* mouth. Seriously, this just gives me a worse vision of humanity. They make this movie out to be like sex is the only thing about a relationship. I'm happy WITHOUT sex, and this is just degrading. So many potential births here. It may sound crazy, but since you are equally as human and I really don't give a *beep*, I think sex shouldn't be done outside of procreation. All who oppose this are just giving in to stupid sociological *beep* perpetuated throughout the years. I'd really like to know WHY anyone would think sex is fine outside of procreation... Somewhere in the evolutionary chain this got *beep* up. Whatever, *beep* this movie and everything it stands for. There is no redeeming qualities. I'd probably kill these two if I saw them next to me at a concert.

Its a jungle out there.

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coorpz,
I feel that there is no possible way you are serious. I'm cool with you not liking the movie, but your post is ridiculous.

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Well - you're a fine upstanding human being ... I dont think the expression 'well-adjusted' could ever be used in regards to you.

You dont seem to understand the role sex plays in human interaction and life .... And you feel the need to kill the people involved?

Seriously - seek help.

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You are a sad, sad individual. I hope your repressed sexuality doesn't cause you any ´psychological issues although, from your post, it seems it's too late already.

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I'm pretty sure that people who indulge in sex outside the purposes of procreation are simply enjoying sex, which is what the couple in this movie are doing. I'm more interested in your conflation of evolutionary theory and old-school Catholic morality, to be honest.

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It's sex on camera. It's porn. That's all porn is. I might be pretentious porn, but it's still porn.

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"It's sex on camera. It's porn. That's all porn is. I might be pretentious porn, but it's still porn. " Couldn't have put it any better. Exactly right.

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It can't be a porn film. Porn movies have a plot, simplistic though it might be.

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Definitely! Playboy Channel has movies with some kind of background story too, but they're still porn, mostly softcore, not showing penetration, hand or mouth on genitals nor ejactulation. This displays the actors having real sex. The actor's penis was in the actresses vagina. She sucked his penis while caressing his scrotum, and as his orgasm began, she continued to pump him as his semen spurted on his leg, their faces in the camera view. And his mouth and tongue were on her vagina. That makes the movie hardcore porn. Even if the scene had been portrayed in Gone With the Wind, it would've been porn!

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