at first i thought it was based in Ireland because Adele says to James ( who is suppose to be English) Top of the morning to you, and then they started goign on about it being Wales i was like what the hell are they on, can they get the geography of the uk right?
shareI think she was just joking, but also the character didnt have much knowledge of the UK. She had got england and wales confused earlier. Just because the character said a stereotypical Irish phrase, doesnt mean that the writers havent got the geography right
shareGrrrr it pisses me off when people think Ireland is in the UK....
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I hate it when everyone thinks the Welsh are English beacuse we're "British"
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Well a lot of americans cant tell thedifference between english, welsh and australian, in the same way that people in the UK might not be able to tell the difference between americans and canadians
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really? how so?
Its besides the point anyway. The point is that because a character in a film doesn't know their geography, doesn't mean that the writers etc are as ignorant. Maybe they are making the character ignorant to show somehthing about the type of person they are. In the same way that if you have a racist character in a film, it doesnt mean that the writers are also racist.
Actually most cant tell the difference between Australian and English & Welsh.
I would bet a lot of Americans couldn't even tell you Wales exists but most know about Ireland, Scotland and England. I mean c'mon you're all so different how about you drop the United Kingdom, Great Britain bullsh*t haha
I know about Wales - I'm 1/8 Welsh. I also know about Cornwall and consider the 1/8 that is Cornish to be Cornish and NOT English.
share**EVERYBODY** in the UK & Ireland knows the difference between the US and Canada: unfortunately Yanks keep coming to live here. Would that it were Canadians, who aren't quite as, on the whole, ignorant. We have been p'd off for years by Yanks who continue to confuse 'British' with what is rightfully 'English', 'Scottish', and 'Welsh'. When they're not calling us all English because their maps don't show any other country but England.
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I support two teams: Wales, and whoever's playing England.
well i posted that 3 years ago, but what i meant is that if someone in the UK met someone from canada in, say, the uk and just had a brief conversation, they may well not realise that they are canadian rather than american.
shareSorry I phrased that badly, i was refering to Wales which is in the UK. I live in the UK myself
shareWell im from scotland and when i go to america they always say my family dont sound scottish ( because we're form Edinburgh and the accent isnt very strong here) plus i sound practically american some of the time.
I hate that Americans think Scotland is in England. All americans know is bloody england that is the Uk to them.
Well, I'm from the U.S...btw, not all of us are completely unfamiliar with the history of British colonialism. If were were, we probably would never wonder why this country's primary language is English and that only one elected president in this democratic republic thus far has been catholic. ...Now what I hate is having to always deal with snide remarks about americans on a website that I've been coming to for years in search of unbiased critiques on films.
sharei'm welsh and i'm constantly annoyed that people consider wales to be a part of england, to me that is the biggest insult that can be given to me
shareWell england IS better than scotland and wales.
lol, joking.
I think this argument is best summed up by Cerys Matthews off Catatonia, who sang, 'Everyday, I thank the lord i'm Welsh'.
But then, she moved to Nashville and became a country and western star; the most american of all genres.
I mean, whats going on there? Make your mind up, Cerys.
I think the film would have been vastly improved if it had been shot in the Brecon Beacons (Wales' lake district), instead of the ilse of man.I swear that something evil lurks in those (brecon's) hills anyway.
I don't really think country and western is the most American because of all the influences in it - a lot of it is very similar to old English, Irish, Scottish, and Welsh ballads.
shareI've heard it argued (and I would tend to agree) that in terms of origin/influence, jazz is the closest to a "native" American musical form.
shareI hate that Americans think Scotland is in England. All americans know is bloody england that is the Uk to them
Actually, I'm from the United States, but I know that Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and England are all four different countries. I also know that all four make up the UK...more specifically, England, Wales, Northern Ireland, and Scotland. I also know that Great Britain is different from the UK. Great Britain actually refers to England, Wales, and Scotland. I also happen to know that Britain only refers to England and Wales. There are MANY Americans who don't know the difference and don't really care about the difference. However, there are some of us who do know the difference and actually care.
shareQuestion: why do you care? Why should everyone have to learn all about your country's geography?
shareIt was a joke, to give us the impression that the character of Adelle didn't know much about the UK.
By your logic, characters coming back to life would mean the film makers didn't do much research into death either.
i never said that all americans didnt know the differenace, but the general view is that people seem to think that england and britain are the same. and i find that offensive
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I think many irish, welsh and scottish people have problems being considered as british, not all of them, but alot. Considering that the welsh have their own assembly, scottish have a parliment and the irish have whatever they have at the current moment, they have it alot better than the average english man, who has no one to speak for him. Jesus, english tax payer's money goes into scottish pensions and funds to help ensure a better retirement, while our government abuses the english to appease the xenophobic nationalities. But thats life, you have to just accept it and move on because life it too short.
Job application forms, ethnic monitoring and so on all have options for irish and scottist, yet should someone should insist on putting 'english' then that is frown upon.
Some fool thinking Wales is part of England is daft, but there's no way I would consider it bad should someone think newcastle is a scottish city. Need to get over these pathetic divisions.
But the Welsh and Scots ARE British whether they have a problem with it or not. The Irish (as opposed to the Northern Irish) are NOT British so you can appreciate that we WOULD have a problem being called British when we're not. The Welsh and Scots may have their own assembly and parliament but technically they are not even countries - they are principalities. Again, they may have a serious problem with this and find it extremely offensive but it doesn't change the fact that it's true.
Personally I don't find people mistaking me for one thing or another offensive, but when other people DO start moaning it's sometimes nice to correct them.
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I know that some Americans have some good knowledge of the UK, but I've never met one who's aware that England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales are different. Most seem to think that London is the country, and Ireland, England and Wales (Scotland doesn't exist apparently) are cities. It's appalling. And they think it's okay because they weren't taught it in school.
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That's true, but there's a difference between knowing the 50 states (which are more accurately compared to counties in the UK) of the USA, and between knowing the THREE internal countries/regions of Britain. Three. Fifty. Three. Fifty. Country/region. State. Country/region. State. Huuuuuuuge difference.
Not to mention the fact that this isn't some random city in Russia (yes, I am a geographer). This is a Western country. A Western country which is supposed to be one of the most important Western countries to the USA. That's like us not knowing the capital of the USA. Pure ignorance, no excuse for it in my mind.
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so........does anyone have anything to say about the MOVIE ????
share McKaysCat just so you know there is no place on earth called Southern Ireland. What there is is an Island of the cost of Europe called Ireland, which contains to countries one called Northern Ireland and the other called The Republic of Ireland, not Southern Ireland.
Paulmillert9 in the Northern Ireland their version of parliment, which was a power sharing executive has been disaccembeled for some years because the idiots in the north can not agree to anything. However the goverments of the Rep. of Ireland and England have been tring to get this restarted for some time.
Also saying that not all Irish mind been considered as british, is not true. Many of the lower class catolics in the north would have a huge problem been considered british. And here in the Rep. of Ireland, those born Irish would have a huge problem with been regarded as british
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I was not refering to the people as idiots but the politics parties, and leaders like jerry adams and Ian pasley(speelings wrong) who are two of the biggest bigots that I know of in politic and who both can be blamed for alot of the problems that are in the North. If it was possible for them to sit down and agree to get the power sharing executive working again Northern Ireland would be a much better place
share"Also, just to clear something up, Northern Ireland IS part of the UK - therefore it is incorrect to say that Ireland isn't part of the UK because Southern Ireland isn't."
The funny thing is that Northern Ireland isn't part of Great Britain. GB is only the island including England, Scotland and Wales, hence the Olympic team of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Anyway back to The Dark, did anyone think the plot was the exact same as Silent Hill? Both films even star Sean Bean as the husband.
It's not part of GB, but it is part of the UK.
UK = United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Island.
GB and UK aren't synonymous.
The confusion gets deeper when one has The British Isles which is a geographical construct rather than political.
This includes The United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland.
Is should be forgivable that people get confused over all of this.
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Ireland is is a divided country. Most of it has gained it's independence from the British (much as the Americans had to do). However, a large portion is still occupied by the British (imagine the British still occupying New York state, Pennsylvania and Ohio).
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