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Why are people so confused about the ending? Gotta be people just trolling at this point.


Everything we saw actually happened. Christian wrapped it up with a neat little bow at the end of the show:

Jack Shephard : Are you real?

Christian Shephard : I sure hope so. Yeah, I'm real. You're real. Everything that's happened to you is real. All those people in the church, they're all real too.

Jack Shephard : No. They're all... They're all dead. I'm dead. You're dead.

Christian Shephard : Everyone dies sometime, kiddo. Some of them before you, some... long after you.

Jack Shephard : But why are they all here now?

Christian Shephard : Well, there is no "now", here.

Jack Shephard : Where are we, Dad?

Christian Shephard : This is a place that you... that you all made together so that you could find one another. The most important part of your life was the time that you spent with these people on that island. That's why all of you are here. Nobody does it alone, Jack. You needed all of them, and they needed you.

Jack Shephard : For what?

Christian Shephard : To remember. And to... let go.

Jack Shephard : Kate... She said we were leaving.

Christian Shephard : Not leaving. No. Moving on.

Jack Shephard : Where are we going?

Christian Shephard : Let's go find out.


At this point I'm positive people are just trolling or simply paid absolutely zero attention when they "watched" the show. It couldn't be in plainer English.

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There are those who interpret LOST ala Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge: That the entire show is Jack's dying dream. There are characters in the series shown holding that particular book in more than one scene if I remember correctly. They will also argue that this is further evidenced by things like polar bears appearing on the island after someone on the plane is shown reading a comic book with a polar bear featured on the page.

I don't subscribe to that interpretation, but that's one argument presented. I prefer the Bardo Thodol reading where everything we see actually occurred -- but in the spiritual realm that exists (according to BT) in the stages between one life and the next.

I'm not sure how the people with the dream interpretation can square the quote you provided, perhaps someone reading this board will offer a defense.

For those who take the story at face value -- that there is a magical island where these things "really happened," I guess it's as reasonable as any other explanation. After all, it's a work of fiction and in such a world once rules are established and followed anything is possible according to those rules (like when a closet can lead to a magical land as in the Chronicles of Narnia). It then follows there can be such-and-such an island where bomb explosions don't kill people and taking a plane over an island and surviving the crash can get you kicked into a past timeline. Etc.

At the end of the day we all get to decide for ourselves how best to enjoy the show.

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Nice callout to Bierce!

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There are also those who understood the ending, HATED IT, and those that disagree just assume that the people that hated it didn't understand it

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Yeah, all the people who misinterpret the ending as saying that the whole thing was the afterlife mystify me. It seems clear as day to me that only the sidewise universe was the afterlife.

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I hated the ending, but I wasn't confused by it at all. Also, Lindelof has attempted to disabuse many of their theories, but I get the feeling some prefer their own answers to those of the showrunner.

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1. Re-read the first three lines of your quoted dialogue.

2. Re-watch the epilogue, particularly the question "How can an island move?" which is deliberately not answered.

3. The series ended with that infamous final shot of the wrecked plane on the beach. The showrunners claim that ABC did that behind their back as some sort of segue. It's hard to believe that the showrunners -- who had so much control over the show that THEY negotiated a previously unheard of end date for the series -- were left in the dark by ABC.

And let's not even mention the numerous hints/suggestions throughout the series that it was some sort of otherworldly experience.

Unable to resolve the many enduring minor mysteries and the biggest one -- what exactly was the island and where did it come from -- the writers wrote a deliberately ambiguous ending that allowed them lots of wiggle room to go either way in the end.

Do I believe it was all an afterlife experience? I don't care personally. Whichever way you roll with it, the series crashed and burned hard enough that every attempt by ABC and the showrunners to generate enough interest for a follow-up series in the decade since has been met with *crickets* by the larger entertainment media and ex-fans.

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"And let's not even mention the numerous hints/suggestions throughout the series that it was some sort of otherworldly experience."

I remember throughout the show characters would say lines that stated as much. Though I suppose those lines could be seen as misdirection's or red herrings, they sync with how I personally interpret the show so I'm good with that.

I remember John Locke's father saying "we're all in Hell," another saying "this place is death" (Charlotte) and Richard Alpert - "You're dead. We're all dead." Those three references come to mind effortlessly even after not having seen the show since around 3 years ago. I'm sure there are a few others, maybe someday I'll go back and watch the series and jot them down as I go.

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I remember that ep with Locke's father, Anthony Cooper who they brought to the island so that Locke could extract his revenge on him or something like that. He kept hinting that the island was hell and he meant it in a literal sense.

The island can't be real because too many impossible things exist or happen on it. Once you go down the path of 'well, it's a MAGICAL island where anything can happen' then you're really just splitting hairs about whether it's real or something else like Narnia, an afterlife, purgatory, etc.

In my mind, there's a difference between misdirection and lazy writing. Misdirection is revealed when the truth comes out and the audience can see in hindsight where and how they were misled. LOST didn't reveal any truths, it just piled on the unexplained things.

I genuinely believe that the writers' realized they had backed themselves into a corner from which they couldn't extract themselves. So they left the ending as open ended as they could so they could go with either explanation of the island with a minimum of fan blowback.

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"I genuinely believe that the writers' realized they had backed themselves into a corner from which they couldn't extract themselves. So they left the ending as open ended as they could so they could go with either explanation of the island with a minimum of fan blowback."

I do find it a frustrating show. Some things appear to be laid out from the beginning and carried through as if they knew where they were headed, but other things feel as though the writers set up mysteries for which they couldn't deliver that fizzled out in the worst possible way.

I don't mind ambiguity or even non-closure, but I have to feel that that was the intention from the beginning, that at least there is a meaning or purpose that becomes evident with good writing. I agree with you that the writers appear to have piled on unexplained things for whatever reason. But even when they did explain something I found the payoff very weak -- as when the mysterious voices were finally explained. But that's me. Perhaps others were satisfied with the limp moment when Michael "explained" that (almost forgotten) mystery for the audience.

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It's not that no one understood...it was that it was completely stupid...

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It's not confusing, it's just bad.

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