Christianity is much better than the Lost Finale - Lost (2004) Discussion

[–] steak4241 9 years ago

Not me, that's for sure.
You should know where you're being sent to your reward
so you don't get Detroit or Mississippi or what.

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[–] bsharporflat 9 years ago

Jesus knew he was going to be crucified just as he knew Judas would betray him and he knew Peter would deny him thrice.

Thus the crucifixion was a kind of suicide, which is a sin. Next time, Jesus, choose life. We really could have used another 30 years of your ministry.

Jack is like Jesus. Hurley is like Paul. Choosing life over death sets a good example. Which is more important, walking on water or writing the Bible?

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[–] secondscout 8 years ago

Why wasn't Jesus in the church?

Shut up talking spaceship! I'm trying to watch my favorite sci-fi show.

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[–] secondscout 7 years ago

Did Jack Nicholson warn him?

Shut up talking spaceship! I'm trying to watch my favorite sci-fi show.

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[–] king_of_bob 9 years ago

Your mistake is in assuming that Christians are right about their beliefs. The show does not in anyway suggest that they are.

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[–] RadulovichEnvelope 9 years ago

I'm not a fan of the finale, but no, Christianity is much worse than the Lost Finale. First of all, purgatory is believed in by some sects of Christianity, in Catholicism there is a special realm for babies that died before they were baptized, yikes they don't just get to go to heaven, that's a bit harsh. Then there is hell, doesn't sound like fun. Then if you do go to heaven, well maybe some of your loved ones didn't make the cut, living eternity knowing a friend/family member is going through immense pain, that would be a bummer.

Then there is the real world effects. Now while Christianity has done some good for communities and can help individuals, there is a whole lot of evil that has come with that good. The death toll that has come in the name of Christianity is without number, on top of other just awful acts and stealing from the poor to fill their pockets. While the Lost finale just resulted in some disgruntled fans.

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[–] bsharporflat 9 years ago

I'm not a fan of the finale

You should be. It was the ending which had been foreshadowed and hinted at from the beginning.

First of all, purgatory is believed in by some sects of Christianity, in Catholicism there is a special realm for babies that died before they were baptized, yikes they don't just get to go to heaven....

The main point you make is that there is no one "Christian afterlife" you can point to and judge. There are vastly varying views, as must be expected from a religion numbering 2 billion.

Then there is the real world effects. Now while Christianity has done some good for communities and can help individuals, there is a whole lot of evil that has come with that good. The death toll that has come in the name of Christianity is without number, on top of other just awful acts and stealing from the poor to fill their pockets. While the Lost finale just resulted in some disgruntled fans.

There is no way for you to judge the "real world effects" of Christianity without a test case to scientifically compare what the world would have been like without Christianity (a "Sideways" in other words.) It isn't enough to observe the deficits of Christianity without observing the benefits. You can count the lives you think Christianity took. But a valid assessment requires also knowing how many lives were saved by the presence of Christianity. And you simply don't know that.

Of course there are parts of the world in which Christianity never made much of an impact, like India and the Islamic empire and China. Or you could compare to a place like Russia/USSR which went from being Christian to godless atheist for 75 years.

Perhaps you are arguing that the world would be a better place if we were all Hindu, Muslim, or socialist/atheist? I don't think the "real world" evidence supports this view.

But what the real world does show is that the combined effect of all religions on earth has led to positive conditions in which the human population has flourished. If you are measuring positivity by human lives, there can be no question that the advent of religions some 4-5 thousand years ago has led to the human race going from a population of several million to a population of 7 billion.

Such population growth does not occur under "bad" conditions. And I assume you are aware of the rapid human population growth which has occurred since the advent of large, organized religions. Therefore, I must guess that you actually have other criteria for what constitutes a "good" cultural element other than the simple preservation of human life.

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[–] Seperatrix (1087) 2 years ago

I don't think the LOST finale was solely focused on Christianity. The stained glass windows represented several religions/faiths.

Yes, Jack's father was named "Christian" and all, but I think they were going for something more all inclusive at the end.

And who said it had to be a Christian purgatory? Bardo anyone?

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[–] BillySlater (4097) 2 years ago

You are quite correct about the stained glass windows and "inclusivity". The ending actually represents a very anti-Christian message. Universalism. The idea that everyone regardless of their beliefs/religion will go to a "better place". Jesus is very specific in John 14:6, the only way to heaven is through him.