Alright...let me answer your statements
"mystery school?"
My thought when i said mystery school, was in the direction of Illuminati, Secret societies, secret buerau's etc. What and who he has sold out to exactly is impossible for me to say. But i can at least say that it is the inner circles of the ruling elite, and their propaganda he has put he's efforts in, when it comes to this movie, and The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus.
"go outside and immerse yourself in nature, and start thinking for yourself."
You are accusing me of not thinking mymself. Ok, your guess. Actually i think likewise of you. You mention "immerse yourself in nature" This summer i was on a 6 weeks trip to spail, where i slept in the forest every night, and deep water soloed every day(exept rest days). Back in Norway i enjoy hunting in the wild.
I like thinking, and does a great deal of it.
"you sound like a total tool"
Well, i have to bring it back to you. I guess from your post that the way you think makes you the tool.
You boil it down to Project camelot = Conspiracy theorists = Crazy people.
What i belive, is that Project camelot, David Icke, Alex jones, Ancient Aliens etc. are dissinformants. They say these crazy things/mix truth with lies, and act crazy, to make a box that "normal" people can put those that belives different in.
"The exact same story"
Brazil was not "The exact same story". I would not say heavy drug abusing parents, rotting corpse of father while leaving a little girl to tend for herself, meeting scary "redneck" family, is the exact same story.
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xordu1
11 years ago
Thanks for the response, that's a very reasonable retort. My judgments of you were unfairly reactionary, which can happen on the internet since there's only text there and not an actual person to gauge the behavior of.
Though you do see how making an outrageous claim like "Gilliam has been initiated into some mystery school" would provoke an reactionary response, right? Especially when there is so much dis-info out there, as you agree, 'mystery school' is a very loaded phrase, so perhaps you understand why i'd get defensive against it. Part of it is because the first things I think of when I hear 'mystery schools' are positive things like the Gnostics, or the Eleusinian Mysteries which to me are very beautiful pieces history which inform much of my outlook. There's dis-info out there that claim the Gnostic mystery schools birthed the illuminati, which is so disgustingly absurd to me. I was getting defensive in case you were in line with that lie.
we're both guilty of being quick to judge each other. "You boil it down to Project camelot = Conspiracy theorists = Crazy people. " I make no such reduction. I did judge that you perhaps identified with Project Camelot and the others you named, which I agree are disinformists and dwell on the problem rather than offer a solution. However I'm quite aware that there are psychopathic predators that manipulate people on the global scale to buy into their lies, and those psychopaths like to pretend they are special by having 'secret societies'. I am aware that false narratives are forced upon the public through the media constantly and there are a handful of families responsible for it. I am not someone who contends that everyone who arrogates or questions what their told are crazy people, i very much support truth seekers. But i'm extremely defensive and distrustful due to the disinformation out there that you've pointed out.
I really really like Tideland, it's probably my favorite Gilliam film and I feel out of all his movies Tideland has the most beauty in it. I think people dwell on what's shocking about it and they don't see the beauty and innocence that pervade the atmosphere of the film. I perceive Gilliam himself to be much like an overgrown child, someone who never wanted to leave the playground, for better or worse.
As far as the similarities in story of Tideland and Brazil, forget about everything on the surface of the film, and you'll see how I see it: Brazil is a story about a man who uses his dreams, imagination and romanticism in order to survive in a harshly oppressive/dangerous environment. Tideland is a story about a little girl who uses her dreams, imagination and romanticism in order to survive in a harshly oppressive/dangerous environment. I like Tideland more than Brazil because I personally relate more to Jeliza-Rose than Sam Lowry, and I find Tideland to have a more beautiful and innocent tone, while Brazil's tone was more ironic and scathing in a lot of senses.
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