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Is that ending possible + Why do it? [Spoliers]


Someone explain to me...

It looked as if McLaughlin was going to win the election anyway... "weak opposition" and all that. So, why did the Americans take over, and more importantly, is that even possible? If / When Mc won, he would have sold Canada down the proverbial river anyway, so why did the US come in, unless they didnt like the deal?

More importantly, is that even possible? The US just says "unrest" (what, exactly? ok: terrorist Natives, separatist threat, assassinated PM, but still... take over?) and then they march in? Is that possible? And regardless, no Canadian would stand for it anyway.

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Might makes right.

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I think the movie strayed away from its title H20. McLaughlin invited the Americans in to guard infastructure and then the "unrest" is used as a cover for grabbing the water resources. It doesn't seem all that unrealistic as many believe that the US did something similar in Iraq.

I think the plot fell short on keeping the water issue front and centre so that there was an obvious connection between the two.

Still I thought it was a great movie. Interesting parallels with the use of scare tactics in the US.



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I thought it was simple. McLaughlin junior had the deal to keep Canada an autonomous area, with certain powers, but the US was to deal with defence and foreign affairs. Also to unite the currencies at par (basically, buying Canadian dollars for US dollars at one to one).

The US had to buy out Canadian dollars that were quickly becoming worthless due to the failing Canadian economy and political chaos. The US did not want to buy the water, they wanted total control. So when the world saw the Canadian crisis happening, the UN Security Council resolved to let the US bring peace and order. The US annexed Canada with the UN's permission, not having to pay any money, and take total control.

Is it feasible. At that point in the movie, US troops were paired with Canadian troops. More US troops were guarding key installations and geographical points. So militarily, if the US wanted to spend a lot of resources, yes, it could.

Finally, the protesters were fighting the Canadian government, the natives were fighting the Quebec government, the Quebec government was fighting the Canadian army, etc. Basically chaos, which is easier to invade than with a unified front.

And no, the movie does not talk about the aftermath of a UN-led, US invasion of Canada.

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The Original Poster is right (while the "Might makes Right" guy is an idiot). In the context of this film the USA gets every possible benefit that annexing Canada would provide without having to commit the resources of actually physically taking over. Administering a conquered territory is expensive, even if the locals roll over and there's no reason to assume they would. It would be politically stupid for the Americans to invade their nearest ally and biggest trading partner, especially given that they'd already be getting everything they could possibly want without getting their hands dirty.

Just one of a long list of things that made what might have been an interesting political thriller into a truly awful, ham-fisted melodrama. This was worth seeing once just to see what a Canadian political thriller might look like (I pray for a better one) but it's just a clumsy, crayon-drawn expression of simple-minded ultra nationalist paranoia and jingoism. Horribly written, mostly poorly acted.

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"So, why did the Americans take over, and more importantly, is that even possible?"

Unfortunately, it's VERY plausible - look a what the CIA/ MI5 did to Iran in the 50s (they overthrew the DEMOCRATICALLY elected Mossadegh government and replaced him with the tyrannical Shah regime - and these scumbags claim to be in favor of democracy!) The respective governments could have easily worked out a deal with the Iranian government but you have to understand, the US has the worlds largest army - they have to use it in useless and otherwise completely avoidable skirmishes around the world (refer to Vietnam as an example) as lot of frankly useless politicians would be without a career if the army was reduced in case the American public actually grows a brain and realizes that one of the ways they can escape being taxed to death is if they decrease the number of troops deployed overseas. So these frequent vulgar displays of power are necessary to fool the public they dupe so easily.




"he would have sold Canada down the proverbial river anyway, so why did the US come in, unless they didnt like the deal?"

The US economy was probably in trouble so they needed the specter of war to divert the peoples attention away from money woes. The leader issuing the war order can also make a pretty penny off the defense contracts issued - all in all a good profit on the blood of a few idiots willing to die for the cause.



"The US just says "unrest" (what, exactly? ok: terrorist Natives, separatist threat, assassinated PM, but still... take over?) and then they march in?Is that possible? "

They managed to say 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' and march in quite easily in Iraq, didn't they?


"...And regardless, no Canadian would stand for it anyway."

The Iraqis, The Afghans and The Somalians aren't standing for it either! How many 'senior members of Al-Qaeda/Taliban' have they killed so far in these countries? And still no end to the fighting in sight, right?

Hope that's answered your questions .....

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"Hope that's answered your questions ....."

No it didn't! Almost 8 years after the making of this ridiculous movie, where is the great water scare? Where is the great push to take over the precious Canadian water? WTF?

Nature is always too strong for principle. - David Hume.

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"No it didn't! Almost 8 years after the making of this ridiculous movie, where is the great water scare? Where is the great push to take over the precious Canadian water? WTF?"

LOL! Hey, it's just a movie - the water is just a PRETEXT for invasion - it really could be just anything instead of just water - it's the scenario, ideas and concept presented in the movie that matter more than the plot - This is a movie intended to make you THINK and be AWARE rather than concentrate on 'realism' or standard logic. BTW, if you're being sarcastic, you've succeeded ....

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