Aish cannot act - The Mistress of Spices (2006) Discussion

[–] mikham 19 years ago

Bride & Prejudice, first of all I don't think it failed, btu it did not do as well as it was expected to do, given the success of BILB. Second thign is that for me, it failed purely because it got stuck in No Man's Land in trying to attract both Indian and non-Indian audiences. So both sides were generally disappointed with it.

I agree her range as an actress is limited (although she might improve given that she is workign with the likes of Meryl Streep and Ben Kingsley, although working with Amitabh Bachchan didn't really help in Kyun Ho Gaya Na), but I think she has some talent. I mean given that she has had no professional acting training, she is doing a pretty good job. Of course the flipside to that is that she obviously isnt really that interested in becoming a serious actress in the mould of someone like Madhuri, Tabu, and a fair few others, but then to be fair again, the same can be said about atleast 80-90% of actresses in India.

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[–] ucbboy84 19 years ago

hellooo dude , i really dont think u have seen ashwarya's movies.. cause if u hv i think she has been brilliant in a few of them and i mean our of the world.... i dont mean to say that she's the best but u just cant write her off as sm1 who cant act ... sorry u hv got it all wrong and indians r not dumb .. had she not been able to act .. she wld hv been a FLOP .... in movies like hum dil de chuke sanam , devdas she was very gud.... and as far as bollywood goin to hollywood goes.... bollywood is watched by more people across the globe when compared to hollywood so that anyway makes her a bigger global star irrespective if people in the west want to watch her movies or not.... so please ... i personally think the west any1 has to and by has to i wanna to say that they r being forced to reacon with india on the whole as a superpower in every field , so if they like it or not india is here to stay and so is ashwarya.... dont get me wrong .. i am not a die hard ashwarya fan but when it comes to people like u writing sm1 off like u did i dont like it at all ..... be constructive in ur criticism but dont act like a ..... u know what ......

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[–] sal_mineo 18 years ago

"u sm1 hv wld" - Do you really expect to be taken seriously when you write like that? Spelling errors are one thing - but deliberately spelling words incorrectly is not only annoying it's stupid. This is a forum not a text message. You aren't being charged by the word.

I'm assuming that "ucb" in your screen name means that you are, or where, educated in the UC system. Get your money back!

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[–] tanya-nagar 18 years ago

LOL Aah I actually laughed at that. So, so true.. gota h8 txt tlk. ppl shud lrn2typ proprly.

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[–] salem_shady 18 years ago

i cant believe people can come up with crap like.. oh ash is better than most hollywood actresses. her acting in choker bali and devdas were pathetic.. way over the top...terrible over acting.. she was too loud in hum dil de chuke sanam too.. and u compare that with the likes of meryl streep charlize theron or even nicole kidman...thats like comparing the rolls royce of acting with a pretty dodge neon that breaks down in 5 years. sheesh.. real lame...
being indian and hoping this movie would do well is one thing.. but these are just go to show how dumb some indians are.

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[–] ashLuver 19 years ago

I find her a good actress, i think shes better than most hollywood actress
By the way, most americans know aish more than anyother hindi actress, trust me i no cuz im not hindi or american but my american frends are familiar with aishwary

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[–] nice_nice05 18 years ago

Ash is a director's actress. She was excellent in "Chokher Bali", "Raincoat" (for which she was a National Award Nominee), and "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam". She was good in "Devdas" and "Taal". However, she was really bad in "Kyon Ho Gaya Na", "Shabd", the films with David Dhawan (I forgot the names), and some other typical Bollywood masala movies. I think Ash can perfrom better in the hands of a good to excellent director. Otherwise, she could be very mediocre. Bride and Prejudice, as a film, was of really poor quality, both according to Bollywood and International standards. Ash needs to take projects with better directors, as she is trying now by working with GP Dutta, Ketan Mehta, and Ashutosh Gwarikar. But in international scene, she has to go a long way even to get a good offer from a reputed director. None of her international projects have been or will be appreciated commercially or critically, unless she works with the best.

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[–] sluttiest_duo 18 years ago

I think Aishwarya Rai is one of the best indian actrees.
But for me KAJOL is simply THE BEST!

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[–] mindrules 18 years ago

Well, no wonder most Americans know Aishwarya better than other Indian actresses. She's been on the cover of Time magazine and add to it her appearance on Oprah Winfrey's show...She is okay, no great actress. I love Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice and I was hurt to see her disappointing attempt at playing Elizabeth Bennet, one of the most admired literary heroines.

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[–] JosephCurwenJr 18 years ago

To Iseethelight :
Maybe "Ash can't act" (you're saying it, not me), but You can't think, it's worse !

Aishwarya

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[–] HiddenVoice 18 years ago

Dude,I really completley agree with ya.Bollywood is full of *beep* and all they can do is dance and sing.And hope this film fails.Just because she's beautiful doesn't mean she can act.Ignore rest of the replies ,they probably would defend her.

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[–] justinianlaw 18 years ago

Have you ever seen a Bollywood film? It's not just singing and dancing, but also in depth plotlines with beautiful scenery and clothing. It's an aesthetic of Indian culture. Anyway, it hasn't been that long since musicals reigned over Hollywood. Think back about 30 years ago. Also, Bollywood makes more films per year than Hollywood and is watched by about 5 billion people. Mind you there are about 6 billion in the entire world. The reason that Bollywood is probably bad in your opinion...is because it's trying to copy American films, which have progressively gotten worse over the years. I mean seriously, are there no more original ideas out there that most of our new films are remakes of old ones with only a handful of innovative movies coming out? Please, if you want to criticize, at least get your facts straight...then you won't sound like an even more ignorant person.
PS: I'm not defending her. Personally I liked about 1 or 2 of her films. I'm defending the industry. Just because you don't like a program that the television is showing, doesn't mean you throw away the TV.

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[–] HiddenVoice 18 years ago

Dude,I'm an Indian and there is no future for Indians in foreing countries to be filmmakers cuz they think that we're gonna make the same old love stories with tons of songs.The fact I'm considering Bollywood the worst because they copy copy and copy Even your beloved Sholay is inspired from the MAGNIFICENT SEVEN.Dumb as s wake up.Bollywood releases more movies than Hollywood and only less than half of them are worth watching while the rest are crap.Recycled stories thats all.And most of the population in the world consists of Asians ,so ofcours Asians apart from Chins and Japs, watch Bollywood movies only.Anyways say what you want but the truth is infront of you ,nobody except dumb Indians like Bollywood movies.No one even care now if Bollywood is the big as s Industry or not.And when were there any originality in Bollywood?huh!

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[–] justinianlaw 18 years ago

Mother India...learn to appreciate the classics.

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[–] sujatapuri 18 years ago

well, there have been a few more. like umrao jaan, baazar, mandi, bhumika, ganga jamuna,mera naam joker,ankur, paar, etc. its just that some of these movies were not commercial hits. but there were excellent films with novel plots, taut script and controlled performances.
yes, a lot of movies here are inspired (to put it mindly) by western flicks. and i agree that they are bad copies. but alls not bleak. there are some real good movies in india too.
another thing is that to understand the song and dance bit one has to be a true indian to the core. song and dance are so much a part of our culture. from what i read you are an indian. dont we have songs for all occassions, right from child birth to demise of a person. another thing ,when a otherwise poor guy in a so called thrid world country goes into the cinema hall after having bought a ticket he expects to be entertained.

P.S.- mother india was not all that lousy. it did make it to the oscar nominations and so did salaam bombay and lagan. yes these did not win, probably they were not universal in their appeal. though i think love for the motherland or the plight of street children is well identified by all. then the only other logicall conclusion can be that the treatment of the movie was not universal or honestly the other movies nominated were much better. even if this be the case it does not mean that these movies were bad.

i hope i do not receive a foul response from you. but then ypu would know better after all you are the "movieLORDforever". have a great day.

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[–] HiddenVoice 18 years ago

Wow dude,you've really been blinded from the actual truth the Indian cinema.I don't understand what is it with you people that keep you so hooked into indian movies,there is no realism in them.So you people just watching crap ,while I appreciate classics.

By the way Lagaan is inspired from Victory ,so don't start bluffing about it getting a nomination or whatever.The only reason the academy nominated the film was that India has a large Industry ,so they thought it would be nice to add a film from a different country.Afterall when was the last time an Indian movie got nominated?Even Chinese movies are widely accepted and watched,not indian movies considering their huge Industry.
You know what I'm not even in the mood of arguing with people who deny simple truth,and I don't even know what the hell I'm writing about,so piss off and let me listen to my music.

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[–] sujatapuri 18 years ago

well, check out satayajit rays films and get a reality check. u shoudl be called moviemoronforever. and yes go back to ur music. i guess u should refrain from commenting about stuff u r unawear of. and hey, i guess u have not watched half of the movies i wrote abt. so get a life loser.

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[–] afshideh 18 years ago

"didn't i looked calm", "as if I didn't saw it coming" ??? Dude make your tense and verb agree atleast? Are you some cabbie in some Godforsaken place like ...oh I dont know...Easter island?

Gotta agree with him though, Aish can't act. But then again, she does not make any of my Bollywood A-lists!

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[–] HiddenVoice 18 years ago

Who are you, some third class serveur in some beggers house?Get a better job...

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[–] sujatapuri 18 years ago

well, its sad that u r an indian, and honestly dont know much about the indian films and filmmakers. bimal roy, guru dutt, v shantaram, raj kapoor, satyajit ray, shyam beheghal. were all great film makers. have u seens the films made by these film makers. i guess not. actors like meena kumari, waheeda rehman, samita patil,bharat bhushan,dilip kumar, sanjeev kumar and many more have given some of the best performances. music wise, well, i guess u wont understand indian music- raags, raaginis , thumris, etcs. (i guess hip hop does it for you) shanker jaikishan, khyamm, lata, asha md, rafi, kishore , kishori amonkar, mean nothing to you. how could they. you were not made for the finner things in life.
be honest to yourdelf, ask urself how much do u know about these film makers , these performers. and even if then u get to true answers. you go and take help. u need to be more open mindided and more logical. and plz cant u think of better ways of putting ur words across. than asking people to piss off or calling them di.cks etc. get a grip. there can be people who have a wider perspective in life and are able to appreciate various cultures and have varied sensitivities. learn tolerance. befor its too late. i wish u luck. and plz no hard feelings whatsoever.

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[–] sujatapuri 18 years ago

well, i guess u are just saying that u have seen the works of guru dutt, bimal roy , muzaffar ali , satyajit ray. cause none of them are copies. you men to say that "kaagaz ke phool", "guide","pyassa" ,"sahib biwi aur gulam", "baazar", "mandi", "hazaar chaurasi ki maa", "meine ghandhi ko nahi mara","bhumika","chakra","navras","arthsatya". get real.get a grip.not only have u not seen most of these , u lie at the drop of a hat. great keep pleasing urself with your lies.

secondly, just because u enjoy the sci fi pics. does not mean that indians should make the same. well, sci fi will not go down well in india. you have to underatsnd the concept of movies in respect of the socio economic dimensions of the country. you have to also look into the level of education of the majority of indian audience. so rather than just shooting ur mouth and using all the *beep* words. it would do u good if u watched the movies mentioned aboveand then shoot ur foul mouth. so take care and get a life.
and please look up the thesarus to find more derogatory terms. i guess u wont need to do so. u r a pro at that.

well, samita patils movies have ben screened in the whole of europe. so have the works of v. shanatram and guru dutt.and yes karan johar is no wiz i know that but sometimes the audience just want to be entertained. maybe they dont want to be taxed. know what sometimes movies can be all about entertainment, just enjoyable stuff. "black" by sanjay did well, infact it did make it to the list of the ten best movies in the times magazine. now dont say, that those who reviewed the movies and compiled the list are morons.

where r u from? maybe u r too alienanted from indian culture and traditions and sensibilities and hence you have such a view. anyway. all the best. and stop lying. take care.

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[–] sujatapuri 18 years ago

i guess we both belong to different worlds. you wont be convinced by what i have to say and i will not suscribe to your line of thought. so i guess its a stalemate. i guess we should just leave it at this. but i would have appreciated it if you would have not been so utterly rude. in most of ur messages u loved calling me names. well, thanks i did increase vocab, though i doubt it if i will ever use this new found vocab.

have a good day. bye.

p.s.- try and watch some of the movies i mentioned. not that u need to change ur opinion.

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[–] sujatapuri 18 years ago

well, thanks for your concern. i will look into the *beep* part. but i guess you should look into ur own *beep* life. guess u dont get any and hence keep advising others to do so. u are one considerate chap. wow. what would any of us do with out a chap like u.
and my writing style is much better than your truck load of *beep*
bye.

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[–] HiddenVoice 18 years ago

I'm Sorry ,come again?

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[–] sujatapuri 18 years ago

lol

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[–] DreamyGirl247 18 years ago

Can all of the people who keep bashing Aishwarya and saying that she cannot act just please shut up?! You're all entitled to your opinion but to say that she cannot act as if it were a fact is completely arrogant, and foolish. Just stop it. I'm going to go out on a fairly bold limb here and say that anyone who thinks Aishwarya cannot act can't tell a damn thing about acting skills, true real talent and potential to begin with. She is a great actress. I thought she did a brilliant job in Bride And Prejudice and don't you dare try to tell me that she didn't and I love Bride And Prejudice and I liked Bend It Like Beckham but I loved Bride And Prejudice at least a billion times more. And everyone else loves it too, I haven't spoken to or met even one person who disliked Bride And Prejudice yet, so don't try to bash it and declare Aishwarya as a bad actress.

SHE HAS talent, that much no one can deny and if you do try to then you're just fooling yourself. Aishwarya possesses an ethereal, immortal, divine, God-like beauty that much is obviously a given, but she also has an immense, immense amount of elegance, grace, sensuality, charm, charisma, smoldering screen presence and real actual talent. She blew me away in Bride And Prejudice and I haven't even really seen her in anything else yet.

Dream Angel

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[–] sujatapuri 18 years ago

hi heavenlydreamangel.
its impossible to reason with movieslordforever. thats why i have re named his moviesmoronforever. he is such a horride person who loves abusing. guess he is damaged and cant help it. i have and i admit it, i have given up on him . i guess u too avoid that bastard.
not only does he hate aishwarya but also hates the indian film industry. well, i know everyone has a right to their opinion but too get abusive and try and belittle others everytime asserting your point is so pointless. and this is where i dislike him. not for his opinions.his life mission is to write off all thats indian. he is such a blot on indians. i wish he burns in hell.

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[–] Pinduchitti 18 years ago

true, she cannot act, not even to save her life!

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[–] Haroonrajah238 18 years ago

hey movies lord have you ever seen Devdas? what was that inspired from, a classic indian novel! Lagaan wasnt a copy of anything, it was an original interesting movie about Indian history. You cant diss everything, when you dont know everything. Also, indian cinema is much younger than Hollywood, and its gettin better all the time, maybe you should look into the facts before adopting a name like 'TheMoviessLord'

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[–] earlyhigh 15 years ago

All india is gud for is cheap labour

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[–] sujatapuri 18 years ago

you are all comsumed by *beep* and di.cks. wow. good for u.lol

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[–] HiddenVoice 18 years ago

What was that?

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[–] sujatapuri 18 years ago

the truth. lol

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[–] sanctraxs 18 years ago

moviesmoronforever.......NEXT.....!!!!

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[–] Axe-M 18 years ago

I agree she can't act.. shes good/established in Bollywood but why on earth she would want to do lame Gurinder Chandha movies is beyond me. B&P was crap and so looks this. Another Indian woman, white guy culture clash.. not exactly challenging or interesting dialogue! It's not even soap material! She's just putting asian representation back another 30 years with these repetive rubbish. She ain't as cheap and 1 dimensional as Parminder Nagra.. but if she continues down this route.. she will get close!

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[–] alnrules 18 years ago

i agree with u that she cannot act. however, bollywood movies have more of a global audience than hollywood movies, just check the statistics. dont just make generalizations. bollywood movies are pretty much popular everywhere except the US.

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