Is this a copy too!!!!!!!!!!!
Check out this link
http://imdb.com/title/tt0097635/
what do you say of this???
Umm I don't really see any similiarity and I actually don't even get that movie?
MovieChat Forums > Rang De Basanti (2006) Discussion > Is this a copy too!!!!!!!!!!!
the screening of the movie seems similar. the past vs. present direction ONLY. but the story is completely different!
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=fur_farm
Yes, Rang De Basanti was copied from Jesus de Montreal
... sadly :(
Bollywood can never be original
NO....
RANG DE BASANTI IS NOT A COPY OF JESUS DE MONTREAL.....i have seen both and the latter one is not comparable to the indian one......INDIAN one score a lot more....and the story is quite different too.
"its not sad that bollywood copies films....its sad that people like hermoine786 can never appreciate a true film and start finding similarities for this movie with others based on just a few ideas and scenes....."
In such a case hollywood is more pathetic in copying its own movies and repeating itself every year.....they even dont seem to leave comic books alone....for them everything sells again and again.
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it's not a copy...i admit we make movies based on other movies but this one is truly original...and that's what makes it totally awesome.
shareIts not a copied film.. It happens every year in Indian air force .. lots of Pilot dies because fault and lower quality plane.. its a good film.. i think its underrated... Srk, Salman fans are jealous of Amir that why they give this movie 1/10.. International critics loves this movie.. for their rating this movie is now in IMDB 205 list.
sharePlease do not compare Rang De Basanti to Jesus de Montreal
I have just seen JDM an hour back and I am amazed by this forums intent to "prove" the similarities.
RDB is surprisingly original and strikes a chord within all of us.
Welcome the new wave of Indian cinema!!!
There are two ways of making a film. One way is to copy a movie blatantly and claim it to be an inspired piece of art or stand up, back your convictions and make an original like Rang De
Sorry about the line which is "inspired" by RDB :-)
i thought so too. but isnt it uncanny that:
1) in both students are involved making a documentary
2) in both students take up roles of a larger than life character
3) in both films the past is shown as a series of flashbacks sprinkled through the movie
4) Mr. Mehra's last flick "aks" was a blatant rip-off of 'fallen'.
having said that, i'll confess that i dont think RDB is a remake/rip-off but all of this just makes you think: the director must have atleast known about JDM or wouldnt all these similarities be a big coincidence??
what you said... is true but i talked to the director yesterday at a screening and he told us that the movie was orignally suppose dot be called aahuti and was supposed to be simply a story about the past and in black and white, but then they surveyed youth for bombay and delhi and found out that everyone was bored with it, that is when they decided to change it....
so basically teh first idea was original... but when no one like it, may be they took the style from JDB to make the movie more appealing to youngsters.....
directors do that often... they learn from the style of other directors, especially mehra, since its only his second movie and he doesn't have a distinct style of his own yet......
1. plenty of movies have utilized people filming a documentary - it seems like a logical choice to introduce sue to the rest of the rdb crew. There is nothing innovative in the this choice. This doesn't really define the story or any story.
2.again very nonspecific argument. heroes and cinema usually has what would be normal characters taking up larger than life roles - otherwise it would be very boring.
3. now you're describing a cinematic technique one that you will find used in countless films.
So you'll find that your first three points add no weight to what you're posturing. As to your fourth point, if the director blatantly ripped off one film does that mean all his films have to necessarily be rip offs. No I don't think the director must have already known about jdm - I myself have only heard of the movie from this post. Watching rdb there is nothing alien about the script (often the case with a ripoff) from a screenwriting and storytelling perspective every plot detail from beginning to end seems like a pretty obvious choice that any competent writer could have come up with without needing inspiration beyond their own imagination. RDB is one of the most original and entertaining films I've ever seen come out of bollywood. I'm the type of person who hates most bollywood fare because it so often rips off and mutilates otherwise great films, but it's not the case with this film.
Jesus de montreal was copied of Ankush that came out in 1986!!! Watch the movies and then reply!!
shareSo what if it is a copy? The great movie "Per un pugno di dollari" (A fistful of Dollars, directed by Sergio Leone, actors Clint Eastwood, Marianne Koch) was a frame to frame shameless copy of "Yojimbo", a Japanese movie directed by Akira Kurosawa.
Do you think it is denied any credit? No. Yojimbo is rated 8.2 and A Fistful of Dollars is rated 7.9. It doesn't make a difference if it is a copy, it has to have all the essence of the original movie, that's all and I think in the case of Rang de Basanti, it is justified. I saw both movies and I think Rang De is a good one.
Deserves credit, but definitely not 8.5 material. I'd give it a 7/10
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When hollywood copies, either their own stuff or from novels and comics or from other language movies, they give due credit to the writer or source in their titles.
When Bollywood copies Hollywood movies, you'll never see them given credit in the titles. Using the plots and ideas without crediting is also called plagiarism. Hollywood did it long long time ago, but not anymore.
i think thats because in Hollywood people are just waiting for the smallest reason to file a lawsuit. So they now have to be very specific in giving credits. Actually Bollywood should take advantage of this trend and start a contest in theatres titled "GUESS WHOSE COPY IS THE NOW SHOWING"... lol...
shareHow about a sort of copy of Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani without the violence in the end? There is a certain level of similarity between RDB and PBDHH - except RDB seems to justify taking the law into your own hands and killing people. I have a problem with that approach even though I know the PBDHH approach is a filmy solution that may not work in real life.
sharesomeone told me it was from v for vendetta. i've never seen v for vendetta so is it true??
I have stress induced dyslexia and you know that, Dr...Oslek
Ok, that could be a copy... and I think I've the tape somewhere in the attic (sometimes, i'm glad i'm french lol).
Then, I don't care if Rang De Basanti has its ideas based on Jésus de Montréal...
The French didn't argue when the film Neuf Mois ( http://imdb.com/title/tt0110646/ ) was remade with Hugh Grant one year later!!(OK, I have to admit that i'm a huge fan of Hugh Grant ^^') http://imdb.com/title/tt0113986/
You know how they named the 2nd film in French? Neuf Mois Aussi (means: Nine Months... Too!)
There're plenty of films copied or based on same ideas from others...
What about Hum Tum which looks like When Harry Met Sally? There're plenty of remakes... and that's a good thing, 'cause sometimes some films grew badly old... and others keep the same energy and all the things of the beginning...
All that to say I really like Rang De Basanti... especially the songs :p
Inspired (but unacknowledged) by Mani Ratnam's Yuva (a truly outstanding film)? Youth disillusioned by political corruption, on different paths -one wants to go to America, one is just a goonda type, the third a small time student leader, then their lives collide and things change forever. Watch Yuva to see how such films should be made with realism and a practical resolution!!
shareYuva's direction is copied from one of the top 50 films of all time..... City of god......
shareYou mean the flash forward and back? Maybe - but that is done a lot in cinema isn't it? I was talking more about the theme, the evolution of the characters, the final resolution.
share"Yuva's direction is copied from one of the top 50 films of all time..... City of god...... "
the last i heard it was called editing.....
Ummm Guys.....Yuva was similar in execution and screenplay to Amores Perros http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245712/ ...get ur facts right b4 you hit that keyboard ;)
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mmmmm how is the screenplay of amores similar to yuva? kindly enlighten.
is it not the editing you mean?
similarity-3 stories join at a point and how that point changes their lives.
the basic concept of the 2 movies.
i think it shld mean screenplay and not editing/direction.
Watch The boondock saints(1999) gentlemen.
RDB used the same exact setup, the ending is the complete copy, just different story.
but this movie had somewhat of a greater effect, longer of course, but it progressed differently and superbly. Puting all that aside, this was definently one the best movies ive ever seen.
I was starting to think I was the only one who saw a connection to Boondock Saints. While the story was slightly different, there were enough similarities, especially the ending, which was a complete copy. Overall though, RDB was a decent movie, and wasn't as bad a ripoff as many other Bollywood movies nowadays.
shareits a good bollywood film... so the natural thought is to assume that the movie has been copied, As obiously bollywood is not capable of originality? comparisons happen movies appear to be similar stories can be similar doesnt mean that the hollywood film supposedly the superior one by default (Bollywood can obiously never be as good as hollywood)even thought bollywood does copy alot of hollywood films. nothing ever gets said about all the bits coppied from bollywood films by hollywood. Watch the great film one flew over the cuckoos nest and then watch the black and white film Khamoshi made years earlier and ask yourself who's coppied who's
shareCome on!!!!!....Give the poor guy some credit!!....RDB is a fantistically made film and just because two films have the same theme doesnt mean that itz a copy...The story is fully different too!!!
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