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Who is Eddie Izzard and why is he from England?


I popped in to see Hoodwinked last night and just happened to see the shorts for The Wild. A couple of things I saw made me a little curious. Firstly, I was watching the preview and just assumed it was Madagascar 2 (Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo and Big Momma's House 2 proving anything can get a sequel these days), and I couldn't help but wonder why Disney would bother with something so closely resembling a recent animated film. Secondly and more importantly, I was struck by the voice of the koala; here I am an Aussie watching a koala seemingly speak with an English accent. When I got into work this morning I checked the credited cast and sure enough, there is Eddie Izzard(?), a pom, voicing an Aussie. I hope our cricket team doesn't find out. Anyway, how lazy can Hollywood casting agents be to not be able to find an Aussie to voice a koala? There are 20 odd million of us. I admit that it is possible that the koala grew up in England, but, even if that were the case, it sounds pretty stupid to me.
If anyone has seen this movie, was it as obvious throughout the film as it was in the preview?

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A few points in answer to your response:
1) Calm down.
2) Since its obvious that I've already seen Madagascar, and there I was watching a preview at the movies for The Wild, it must surely be just as obvious that in Australia Madagascar came out significantly before The Wild. As such, I think that you could find it in your heart to forgive me not knowing and possibly understand why I asked the question in the first place.
3) I did mention that the koala could have been brought up in England, and mentioned that that would be stupid, I stand by that. I obviously haven't seen the film because it hasn't been released in Australia, so I think it is reasonable to ask if it was noticable throughout the film, since I didn't know that the koala was English.
4) Calm down.
5) I am not offended by an English koala speaking with an English accent, I was offended by the possibility of an Australian koala speaking with an English accent, which was why I was trying to find out what the deal was. Also, you may have missed it, but I was attempting a little bit of humour there, its Aussie humour, so I can forgive you for missing it. Another thing you might not know about Aussies is that we are too lazy to read the other threads, which is why I asked the question. If you think my question below you, you may simply refrain from answering it. Either way, I suggest you calm down.
Righto, I hope you get a nice sleep tonight and maybe consider taking a holiday.

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"Aussie humour"

Isn't that the stuff that no other country understands? Just how many Aussie comedians do you actually have which are funny without being offensive?

Is to keep advising someone to calm down another form of Aussie humour? Again, not all that funny.

In any event, to state that the possibility of an Aussie Koala speaking with an English accent offends you is bigoted and if this is really how you feel, keep away from public messageboards! Consider speaking to a doctor who will help you become less ignorant of others.

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Ever thought of taking your own advice mate?

Aussie humour is very different from British humour - we're funny, for starters!

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sorry mate ive watched your tv for long enough to know that your not funny, just offensive to all and everyone around you, thats not funny ahh yeah in the back of the ute etc etc..:)

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I'm from the states and have found that Aussie and Brit humor do have something in common. Most Americans don't get it!!!!! I happen to like both and actually really like Eddie Izzard. If you've never seen him try watching his stand-up called "Glorious". But to reply about "The Wild"...get over it, it's a kids movie!!!!

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Thank you heineym!!!!! Geez people ---get over it. A lot of us from the U.S. don't care about distinguishing an English accent from an Aussie accent.....I know y'all do...but it's really not that big of a deal. Eddie Izzard is the *beep* (Glorious is great and so is Dressed to Kill.) I am a HUGE fan of his and am watching The Wild pretty much to see (hear) him as the Koala.
People get so nit-picky over movies & small details ---they are made to ENTERTAIN.....it's a kids movie....like 'heineym' said...... :-)
Everyone have a great day!!!

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"A lot of us from the U.S. don't care about distinguishing an English accent from an Aussie accent"

This is exactly why an Aussie would be offended that a koala has an english accent. I'm from the States and I know this. I'm from Texas and would be offended if someone said I had a New York accent, they are totally different!

That being said, I love Eddie Izzard and watched this movie because his voice is in it. I did notice he was voicing a koala and thought that odd but whatever, like it has been said, this is a kids movie.

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I prefer his stand up "Dressed to Kill." Anyone I've ever shown it to can't stop raving about him afterward. Saw him live a few years ago too...freakin hilarious!
(he does repeat some jokes tho)

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Ever thought of taking your own advice mate?

Aussie humour is very different from British humour - we're funny, for starters!



haha thats hilarious, thats an aussie joke right there

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I'm aussie and didn't really think it was flash that the koala had an English accent, because (obviously) koalas are australian. Then I got to thinking, well, lions aren't indigenous to America, yet they spoke with distinct american accents... and so forth... I guess the animals would speak with whatever accent they spoke in the zoo, since they are probably bred in captivity...

I said "the ANIMALS would SPEAK WITH AN ACCENT from the ZOO they were in..."

Yeah, definitely a theory worth arguing about...

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"Aussie humour"

Isn't that the stuff that no other country understands? Just how many Aussie comedians do you actually have which are funny without being offensive?

Is to keep advising someone to calm down another form of Aussie humour? Again, not all that funny.

In any event, to state that the possibility of an Aussie Koala speaking with an English accent offends you is bigoted and if this is really how you feel, keep away from public messageboards! Consider speaking to a doctor who will help you become less ignorant of others.



Ok, i don't usually respond to this sort of thing, but here we go. Elgreedo was not trying to be funny when he was saying calm down, he was merely asking the original replier to this topic to settle down a bit, as he felt the response was over the top. Surely this does not warrant your attack.

Secondly, it was not a bigoted question, merely an inquiry into the reasoning behind the move. He was surprised to hear it, being just a short preview whilst out to see a different film. I don't think a trip to the doctor is necessary for elgreedo, and if anything is going to keep him away from public message boards it is people like you who respond to threads like you have.

As for Australian comedians, I can't think of too many good ones, and your point about offensive material is relevant not only to Australian comedians but also to those from most countries around the globe. Do not take Australian comedians as a true representation of common australian humour, it is a different beast altogether.

Lastly, if you think the notion that someone finds a koala with an english accent strange is worthy of psychiatric care, perhaps a little trip to the couch might be in order for yourself.

All the best with all your pills.

Calm Down

Murd Riggs, of Murd Riggs and Associates, Murdville, MurdRiggsland, The Earth.

Ps. This film looks bad anyway, I wont be seeing it.

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Eddie Izzard is an actor and he's presumiably from England because he was born in England.

Hey, and he was on Top Gear!!! So he's a CELEBRITY!!!

There's no I in team. But there's a me though if you jumble it up :)

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Hes not really an actor...

Eddie Izzard the best stad-up comedian in the world. He is a transvestite and often wears womens clothing onstage wich gives him a very special style.

www.eddieizzard.com

He is PERFECT for Nigel, gives him kind of a feminin touch.

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And he was born in Yemen....!

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1/ I can't believe that some one who I assume is American can have the audacity to say Aussie humour is offensive.
2/ I can understand that the higher level of intellegence required to understand Australian and British Humour may be beyond you but just because you lack the perspicacity to comprehend it is no reason to be derogatory.
3/ Due to the possibility that much of this posting may be above you I have included the pronunciation and definitions of some of the 'big' words that I have used.

audacity- Pronunciation[aw-das-i-tee] boldness or daring, esp. with confident or arrogant disregard for personal safety, conventional thought, or other restrictions.

perspicacity- Pronunciation[pur-spi-kas-i-tee] –noun- keenness of mental perception and understanding; discernment; penetration.

derogatory- Pronunciation[di-rog-uh-tawr-ee]–adjective- tending to lessen the merit or reputation of a person or thing; disparaging; depreciatory: a derogatory remark.

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Well I'm an Aussie too, but really what kind of accents are talking animals suppose to have? ;) I mean the African animals all have American accents which is just as odd, if you think about it. In the end it was a kids movie and nothing more.

Pretty ordinary one at that.

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I tried to bring the mix up to the attention of goof ups on this web site but it was never added. As an aussie it jumped out at me but I love your comment I had never thought about why most animals (be them African, Australian etc) are American. I am happy to have Eddie Izzard represent Australia.

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Maybe he was just in touch with his roots, if you get what I mean... `;)

In these movies we have Lions with American Jewish accents and Jewish names, and giraffes, then zebras and hippos with American black accents, in short, I don't think you are supposed to be reading that much into it, it's just a funny voice...

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I will have you know that Eddie Izzard is a very well know comedian in the uk, he is over in the usa trying to crack flims. He has recently been in My super ex girlfriend!!!

And as for the Koala having a english accent, have you not noticed the kangaroo with a amercian accent!!!

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whether he knows who eddie izzard is or not is irrelevant (and, lets face it, unless you're a stand up comedy fan or homoesexual - or both - you'd be forgiven for never having heard of izzard before) - his point is the ridiculous miscasting.

the koala coming from an english zoo is also irrelevant - since KOALA'S CAN'T TALK, LET ALONE DEVELOP AN ACCENT DUE TO THEIR RESIDENCY STATUS IN ANOTHER COUNTRY!

we're talking about a CHARACTER here. a CHARACTER in an animated film - in which a large part of that character is the voice. it would be like having a female voice actor cast to play an obviously male character... it would be completely incongruous, and hugely insulting to any number of capable male actors that could have easily played the part.

I haven't seem the movie by the way, I just like to argue with poms.


p.s. "pom" is derived from the acronyn Prisoner Of Motherland - and therefore, you are indeed a pom. as is everybody of british descent living in britain.

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KOALAS CAN'T TALK? .... Of course they can, how else would they comunicate? I used to have a talking koala called Ian . We had some right arguments & it led to him being put down eventually.

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WHAT THE FOO?!?!!!!

You had a TALKING KOALA and you had him killed because
he was arguing with you?

Blimey!!!

That animal was worth MILLIONS.
Do you even have a CLUE what a talking koala is worth?

YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!








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"Who is Eddie Izzard and why is he from England?"

Thats a question most of us Poms ask! (Pom-short for pomegranate).

As long as Eddie is in the Us we don't have to put up with his affectations over hear.

Haven't seen the movie, can't comment.

Small historical point - Errol Flynn, an Australian made his name playing Brits (Robin Hood, Essex) and Yanks (Custer, Wild Bill Hickock).

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So maybe you can tell us, what kind of accent did Ian have? (before you had to have him put down, that is.)

"I'm not a weenie, you are the weenie"--Guttirez.

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Ah, the ignorance comes gushing out now!

Can you please explain how being a transvestite automatically makes you gay? He is a heterosexual male who likes to wear women's clothing. If you've seen any of his stuff (or indeed checked before labelling) you would have known this.

Secondly, your example regarding voice actors is totally wrong. Women ARE used to voice male parts on a regular basis. Look up Nancy Cartwright and you'll see what I mean.

I don't understand what the big fuss is. The producers decided to move away from a stereotypical Aussie Koala and people get offended by it. As I said before, if you find that you are offended by someone's nationality you need professional help.

Finally, your post script is wrong. Pom is short for pommygrant, named after the fruit pomegranate. It was shortened to pommy, then finally pom (I think someone else mentioned this later in this thread). Some argue it's named after P.O.H.M (Prisoner Of Her Majesty), written on the backs of the convicts arriving to the country, but there is no basis for this.

I'm glad you like arguing with poms - I get the same pleasure from people who are ill-informed, such as yourself.

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a large proportion of izzard's fan base are homosexual. I know this, because I have seen him live twice and was absolutely surrounded by screaming queens on both occasions.

the simpsons is a fine example, given their history of using american voice actors in australian parts.

and congratulations, you know almost nothing about your own nation's domestic or colonial history.

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Who doesn't know anything about their own nation's domestic or colonial history? I know I do because it was something thrashed into us from the time we started primary school til we graduated high school. Granted, not to the extent that it appears americans have, but a lot all the same!

I also can't remember much being mentioned about this. As far as the meaning of POM, who even says that the person who said the meaning was Prisoner of motherland is actually english. maybe they're a misinformed american, aussie, canadian, take your pick.

Besides, there is a lot of history to know, especially about a place as old as england, so maybe they don't know everything, you shouldn't give someone crap because they are misinformed, you don't know the kind of life they may have had.

Anyway, I've had my piece. And this really isn't worth a fight. We've had our opinion and you've all had yours, so lets get back to the important things... okay?

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every animal can talk, dogs by barking, cats by purring, and also humans, they can all talk.

also, the rest of the animals in the film talk, why cant a koala?.

you do realise that female actors do the voice for male characters? like Nancy Cartwright who does the voice for Bart Simpson, Nelson Muntz,Todd Flanders,Ralph Wiggum all male and all from simpsons, also other male voices in a numerous other shows.

i noticed that not just did the koala have a biritish accent he also claimed he was from london, which is highly offensive.

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I'm not really a stand-up comedy fan or a homosexual - but I adore Eddie Izzard. In fact he's one of the few stand-up comedians I can stand (the others being Dylan Moran and Bill Bailey) as stand-up usually makes me cringe with embarrassment for the performers. I would take offense at your first 'sentence' (and I use that term loosely), but I'm ready to be persuaded that your level of intelligence must be extremely low...hence your comment.

Oh, and honey? Lay off the caps-lock key. It just shows your immaturity.


"Period military is not the dress code of a straight man." - Owen, Torchwood

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How do you know koalas speak australian? Have you encountered a talking koala recently?

Chill out, its just a movie.


// Jezper - OMG Superman can fly, thats impossible.

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After seeing that preview for the Wild, my first thought was, "Is that an American trying and failing once again to put on an Aussie accent?" It kind of upset me because I thought, "why not use one of the big name aussies that hollywood apparently loves so much and have them put in some tasteful Aussie jokes so that we Aussies can understand something that other countries don't (I believe these are called 'in jokes') as this happens so often the other way round in movies." But then I realised I recognised the voice of the Koala and was forgiving that they cast Eddie Izzard, coz truthfully, I don't mind him.

The thing is, it IS just a movie, but I found that in the movie 'The Rescuers down under' it was more affective that the character of Frank the frilled neck lizard and whatever the koala and the female kangaroo's names were, were all done, to great affect by Aussies. Cody's mum was an Aussie, yet Cody and McLeach (I believe that was his name) two of the main characters living in the outback of Alice Springs, NT, Aus spoke with american accents! It detracted from the movie for me because it lost some integrity, the same way as every other movie where people speak in american or english etc accents yet are meant to be living in Germany, France, Iraq, whatever.

As an Aussie it would be nice to hear a fellow aussie voice a character that is based on an Aussie, especially a koala which you do not find naturally anywhere else in the world!

But it really doesn't matter, it would just be nice!

Now as for Aussie humour... I've seen American TV, movies etc and what i've discovered is that they rely on insults and toilet humour for cheap laughs. The english haven't been funny since Monty Python really, say for a few along the way who have made me laugh (mainly when they pay out Australia or my hometown of Adelaide) and Aussie humour is also few and far between, but the good stuff (that no one else in the world seems to understand) is based on catch phrases, unlikely circumstances and paying ourselves (and not others) out. We're the country that pay ourselves out chronically.

Unfortunately, we're becoming too american thanks to the overbaring excess that they pump into our country, leaving little room for our own home-grown talent to stand up and be noticed.

If you want to see true Aussie humour then stick to the classics like Croc Dundee (originals not the more modern crap) and find a little movie called 'The Castle' that will put you all straight.

Anyway, I'm not aiming to insult anyone, and I apologise if I have, I just wanted to have my say...

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"The english haven't been funny since Monty Python really"

Right and you guys give us Rolf f$%&ng Harris :)

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Yep, we gave you Rolf Harris, you can have him.

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"The english haven't been funny since Monty Python really"


Apparently you never saw Shaun of the Dead.

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Neither Monty Python or Shaun of the Dean were funny.

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Eddie Izzard is from England 'cos that's where he was born...pretty obvious really. Okay, yeah I understand your point...why use an English guy to voice an Australian animal? Fair point but since when did Hollywood care about accuracy, they only care about money.

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Are you guys really this thick?

The koala clearly states that he is from London, thereby explaining his accent. If he is born and raised at a zoo in London it doesnt really matter if his species doesnt occur there naturally or not, does it?

Are lions and giraffes naturally occuring in the US?

it's really too obvious.

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what you seemed to have missed is that he only saw the preview, which would explain why he did not have an explanation for the koala's accent. I can understand the quirky joke the makers of the film were going for, and good on them for trying something new and different. that does not mean people have to like it, we are all different which is what makes this world interesting. Tolerance for all and chocolate cake for me.

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Nope. He was born in Yemen. (Eddie Izzard that is...)

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So do Koalas normaly speak with an Australian Accent?

Maybe the lion should have spoken Zulu.

;-)

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That would be intersting, and at the least would acknowledge that there are people/animals in this world that don't sound like celebs.

It would require subtitles though...

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Its also worthwhile to point out that its a bit of a running joke in the movie to give animals odd accents.

There is a pidgeon with an Indian accent, flamingos with Scottish accents, dung beetles with German accents, and more.

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O.K bro, Firstly Eddie Izzard is a class comedian from yemen originally. Secondly i appreciate your concern over the Koala's English accent but you don't see africans posting about all the other animals having american accents do ya. I mean seriously who cares. The studio obviously wanted the Koala to have an english accent as a character statment as it was not Eddie Izzards own accent used.

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Righto, I'm going to attempt to clear it up once and for all. I do not care if the character of the koala is from England and speaks with an English accent (although it sounds like a stupid idea to me, but that's beside the point). I never did care about that and never will. I have not seen the film (as I stated at the very beginning) and have only seen the preview at the movies. My concern was that that a non Australian actor had been cast to attempt (poorly) an Aussie accent, which is a distinctive variation of the English language, rather than a completely different language (ie. Zulu). This has been done before and will, no doubt, be done again, but it sounds awful and is a pretty poor effort by the casting agents. Of course, it turns out that he wasn't attempting an Aussie accent, but I wasn't to know. Anyway, I don't think it was a terrible thing to be puzzled by, and I certainly don't think that makes me a bigot, which I believe someone called me. I originally posted to find out what the deal was, and I have since been told. I don't have anything against the English or English comedians (Rolf Harrish, who's from my country, however, I do), but, as is the case when people read too much into things, I have been seen as suggesting things that were never my intention. I suggest you all stop caring, for I certainly have. I posted to find out what the deal was, I have since found out, so I think that there has been enough talk about it. Thanks.

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I honestly didn't see what was wrong with your original post in the first place, I was wondering the same thing. But I am impressed at the insane reaction and stupid response's you've managed to collect for asking such a simple question, well done.

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I have to agree with the above. I thought this was a message board to discuss films, not for crazy folk to let off steam! Some of the posts mad me ashamed to admit I am English.

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hi Tasha36,
don't worry about feeling ashamed because of what people from your country say on message boards. No one walks away from a public message board and says "well, after what shazbot98 said in there, i don't think i will ever talk to an english person again" if you are going to feel ashamed to be english, find a better reason! :) (just from watching movies you should find plenty of reasons. See "Braveheart", "the patriot" and "in the name of the father"- I am aware that these are only movies, again humour was attempted)

More than one person in this topic has said something silly, but then again, inference is hard to pick up in text, we all read things in a different way. what a write to sound funny can be read sounding rude.

As for discussing films, I am all for it. have you seen "the wild" and did you like it? I have not seen it myself, nor will I, am getting a little tired of animated features.

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I think English or Australian people can't judge their own humor. To you it might sound funny but to foreigners it might not.
I'm not saying Australian or Brittish humour is bad!
Personally I love British humor: blackadder, monty python, shaun of the dead, ...
but I can't remember if I have ever heard Australian humour, could you give a few movie titles that have Australian humour in it?
I'm curious to see if I like it, love the accent tough. The Aussie accent is really cool. (British, Irish and Scottish accents too btw)

anyway, the animals have never been in the wild if I'm not mistaken (haven't seen the movie myself yet, tough I really want to) but it's pretty possible that he could've been raised in England. I don't think it matters actually. Wouldn't it be strange if every panda would have an asian accent, every lion an African, etc.

read my x-men 4 script:
www.imdb.com/title/tt0376994/board/thread/46795579?d=46795579#46795579

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I have said in other message boards that I am not a great fan of Australian movies, nor TV for that matter. There are very few movies around that depict australian humour very well, and most of our "comedies" are in fact taking aim at ourselves. The "common" humour of Australia is not the same as the jokes told by Australian comedians.

Perspective is everything in comedy, which is why one must play to their audience and why an audience should choose their comedians carefully. Some people find the wayans brothers funny, some do not. Some think Steve Martin is hilarious, others don't.

As for accents in movies, I do think it would be good for the panda to have an accent matching its origins, the same for the zebra, the koala and the fox. (i don't actually care which animals appear in this film, I am just using examples). But it is just a movie, and not a very good one at that.

Long live the long winded. Short live the short of breath.

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lmao i cant even believe you guys are argueing about something so stupid firstly screw the facts its a comedy film with talking animals which you dont see in real life hmmmm i wonder why!!!! lol!!! the accents of the animals were obviously done on purpose and personally i thought the koala would have sounded less funny with a Australian
no offence intended of course just that its not supposed to be real and the accents added that extra element of humour, Eddie Izzards voice was great for the part hes a comedian and it was a very pompus accent but once again just made it more funny and overall he was the funniest character because of it. ( which doesnt really back up the fact that aussies have any humour but i had to say it)

ask for the issue of humour thats stupid each country in the world has its own style of humour some ppl may lyk other peoples humour sum ppl may not i watch paramount stand up hour alot with comedians from around the world one Australian comic being 'Tom Gleeson' some of his gags were only understandable to the aussie community some of it i found funny same goes for every other country so stop your bit*h#ng and grow up oh and murdriggs by the way i thought the wild was a very good film much better than madagascar and the 3d models looked awesome and looked much lusher than all the others and the humour was great and well written :P .

well if anyones got and issue with this post well suck my ball's i dont care hit me with your worst and if its about the wild being a worse film than madagascar check the official 'the wild' reviews i think you'll find them enlightening.......l8r

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poco_262

Good luck to you, and I hope you enjoy any future talking animal features, they seem to be to your taste. What's more, that is fine. We all like or dislike different films, I don't like "snakes on a plane", some people do. I liked "inside man", others didn't. I encourage you to have a differing opinion to mine, that's what makes this world interesting. If you note what I said about comedians, i think you'll find my opinion fair and reasonable, but never mind that either.

I made mention earlier that I understood the joke the makers of the film were going for, and I also said good on them for trying something different. I personally think the idea was a little silly, but it is only my opinion. I also stated it was just a movie, and not worth getting in a fuss about. Animated films have become a little stale for me, and arguing over the quality of animation from one film to the next gives me no pleasure. Feel free to take aim and fire away at me if you disagree, that's within your ability and rights.

I have had enough of all this. Merry christmas to all, and to all a goodnight.

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haha, you, sir, have got to be the single most laid back person on the internet.

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