If I was Andy, I would've dumped Trish when she thought she was talking to a telemarketer
That scene proves she's a horrible person.
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A legitimate business doesn't need telemarketing to gain business. Telemarketing targets people directly and hopes to catch them off guard. These people are thieves.
I had this bitch call my business twice a week for two months trying to sell me an alarm system. It didn't matter that I told her that I was part owner of a local security company and that I had a fine alarm already - both true. The last time she called and interrupted something I was deeply involved in, I told her that unless she was willing to come down to my office and suck my dick, I'd prefer not to hear from her. There was about a 5 second delay then she hung up. I speculate she told her boss that if she was forced to call my office again, she would consider that harassment because that was the last time I heard from her. The company was Sentry Security out of NY somewhere.
Recently, the calls are robocalls. I've been told my car warranty is going to expire, my Google listing is being dropped, my CC services are going to be cancelled, the IRS is going to arrest me unless I gift with with an Apple card, etc. So I push "1" and put the phone down and get a cup of coffee. It's fun guessing how long the parasite will spend saying "hello!" before hanging up. At least I can waste some of their time.
I would rather panhandle and live in a dumpster before I took to stealing from people by phone.
I get calls from an air duct company a lot. One time, I started speaking as if my phone was cutting out, "My address is... 42... street... nex... bl... muh...". The guy actually dropped an f-bomb and hung up. It was great.
share" These people are thieves."
This sounds like you fell for some kind of scam and decided to judge everyone that calls you with a proposal criminals.
How are they thieves? They don't take anything from you that you aren't willing to give them out of your own, free will. A thief takes something from you that you own, against (or without) your consent. A telemarketer just talks on the phone.
Way to exaggerate something to ridiculous proportions!
You don't know the story of the telemarketer - maybe some of them ARE thieves, others might be clueless people that don't understand what they're doing, others might actually believe they're doing something good and legitimate.
The MOST you can really, truthfully say about telemarketers that they are annoying. That's it. Annoying is all they have any POWER to be.
Anything else would mean you GAVE that power to them, so it's not really their fault, now, is it?
They're just people trying to sell you things over the phone. Obviously this was going to happen when inventions like phone appear in the world, how could it be otherwise? Why do people take this overly-exaggerated view of things instead of a pragmatic one? They have perfect right to call you, ask you questions and try to sell you things. You have no obligation to buy anything or even listen to them.
I think the original poster has a bit of a point - sure, people 'hate telemarketers', and they are annoying. But is there a reason to be that EVIL to them?
There are lots of teenagers looking for a job that the end up becoming telemarketers, however temporarily. Anyone can fall for this kind of opportunity, as it seems like easy money, all you have to do is talk on the phone a bit and gain some money that you desperately need. It's very understandable, as you don't really need skills for this 'job' - although experience and ability to smooth talk helps.
Heck, even I have tried this job once when I didn't know better - it's not heavenly on the telemarketer's side
I mean, it's not very fun on their side, either. They have to constantly call and bugger people, trying to use a script from a page to sell those people something, and the discussions never go to the direction you want, and people are hostile, rude, crude, insulting, dismissive, etc.
You have to do this every day for hours and hours, and you'll be lucky to get one sale, and your commission is still tiny.
I didn't do it for very long, I wasn't good at it, I hated myself for doing it, so I quit pretty quickly. Later, I heard, the boss had actually taken all the money and ran, never paying the commissions to the other people, so I was lucky to get out before THAT happened.
Yeah, telemarketing, as a business, is really bad on all levels, it's annoying, it's disruptive, people on both sides are hostile idiots, but it's a tough world where money is so tied to everything you basically need it, no matter what kind of life you are trying to live.
You can't blame people for being desperate enough to fall for the promise of 'easy money' with telemarketing stuff.
It's not a crime, it's perfectly lawful and YOU have a lot of responsibility, too. For example, you don't have to take calls from anyone you don't want to, you don't even have to answer the phone. I know at this point many will want to scream to my ear "I DO have to answer my phone, because.."
But really, do you? When you get deep down, you might get in 'trouble' for not doing something someone in a suit expects you to do, but do you die immediately if you don't do it?
I mean, 'being busy' is always a choice. Sometimes it seems like a completely necessary choice, but it's still a choice. If you're starving and homeless, and someone offers you some 'busyness' (or 'business', even - golly, is this how THAT word came to be?) to get you fed and a roof over your head for a few days, you don't absolutely _have_ to become busy, but in that situation, it might feel like you absolutely do.
This sounds like you fell for some kind of scam and decided to judge everyone that calls you with a proposal criminals.
No, I never fell for any scam. Way off base. You don't know me at all. Not everyone who hates telemarketers fell victim to one. Using that same logic, one might suggest that you are a telemarketer based on your defense of same. I won't accuse you of that because I don't know you.
They don't take anything from you that you aren't willing to give them out of your own, free will.
Ever hear the term "confidence men"? They operate by gaining undeserved confidence through coercion or other means to get people to "willingly" go along with what they're selling. These telemarketers skirt arrest by running just under the law. They prey on the weak, simple minded, needy, desperate, or gullible. While technically legal, it's still theft to me.
Regarding telemarketers: I've seen way too many people fleeced by telemarketing scams. Again, no legitimate business needs to resort to randomly calling trusting, or gullible, simple minded, or even lonely people to sell them something under pressure.
A business with a good product at reasonable prices only needs to do basic advertising to sell their product.
Name one legitimate company that resorts to spam and telemarketing. I doubt there are many if any.
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dOn'T bEe eEeEeViL tO tHeM.... Have we become fucking puritans? Trish laid it out perfectly.
"Are you at the top of a tall building? Jump Off!"
Yep.
It's worse for businesses because we have to answer all calls. At home or my cell we don't answer any call we don't recognize. But with a business, out of area calls are common and I had to answer them.
I agree and it was also funny when she suggested to the telemarketer to get a real job - while her "job" basically was selling used junk on ebay.
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Her job may have not been in the same league as rocket scientist or running a soup kitchen, but at least hers was an honest job. Telemarketers are confidence men who use pressure tactics and diversion to coerce the less savvy people to buy something they don't want, need, or at too high a price or too low a quality.
People who buy the used junk on ebay make that choice on their own.
Telemarketers can also offer useful products or services, which might be suitable for someone they just called.
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