Most people may have not notice this but in my copy of Starkweather which is a DVD screener copy. In one of the kitchen scenes when Charlie is walking aroung the kitchen everytime he moves and talks you can see a microphone pole moving around on the top of his head at just above the top of the screen
shareThe biggest goof in this movie is the location in which it was shot. I live in Omaha Nebraska, just a quick 30 minute drive from Lincoln, and I can assure everyone, there are NO MOUNTAINS in Lincoln. maybe a few hills of rolling corn or beans to the east and west, but certainly no mountains! Pay attention to any shot of this movie that takes place out doors. In almost every direction there are mountains. Also, people in Nebraska don't talk like the actors in Starkweather. I guess that Hollywood believes 1950's Nebraskans talk with a slow souther drawl...we never have, and never will.
The most depressing this about this movie was simply that they didnt even come to Nebraska at all for the filming! They show a clip of the capitol building in Lincoln, however, it's footage from an archive within the Nebraska Historical Society. How expensive is it to fly a film crew to nebraksa for filming? Hell, even MTV did it when they produced Election, which was filmed at my highschool in Papillion.
If anyone else has seen this movie, and wants to rant on how crappy of a job was done in making it, please let us know.
I'm certain that the highway shots were filmed around the deserts of southern California. Not only are there distant mountains, but plants that are native to the south west. I'm almost positive that the old gas station in the movie is an old one that is rented out to productions in Temecula.
Yes, the accents were just flatly wrong. Many people in L.A and New York refer to the rest of the country as "the flyover states" and think that anyone living in one of them has just got to be a hick, and just like all of the others living there.
My mom and her family were living in Lincoln when this guy did his thing. Not related at all in the film was the fact that almost all of the town armed themselves to the teeth while he was on the loose. He was amazingly lucky to get as far as he did, and that it was the cops that got him and not the vigilante mob.
I drove semi-trucks for a short time and frequently went through Nebraska on various deliveries.
Being raised in Southern California, going through the Nebraska, then watching this movie got me to thinking "Since when did Nebraska begin to look like portions of northern Los Angeles county?"
I rented this out of personal interest because my family lived 2 blocks from the Fugates at the time of Starkweather's spree(before my birth). I went to school with some of his cousins. In fact, my Grandfather was the Fugates landlord.
First the bad:
-No mountain ranges in Lincoln, nor are there Joshua trees. In fact Joshua trees are extremely limited as to where they will survive.
-I missed the microphone in the beginning but I did see it plain as day at least two other times. There was also a spot where it appeared some film was missing as the film shot ahead a couple of seconds. I am not sure why someone would go to all the trouble to make a movie and not edit something like that, amazing! If it was a high school film project, I would have made them reshoot it.
-I could have done without the mysterious shadow, Charlie's inner being, who urged him on.
Not so Bad: I really didn't hear much of a southern drawl. It was not uncommon at that time for the people to be a little hickish, if you will. Fugate was so ignorant, she didn't know who the president was. It was a different time and whatever dialect or accent was not influenced by television. I have lived in Lincoln all my life and know folks who still talk with somewhat of a drawl.
-The locations and names were accurate. Radio broadcasts referred to the Belmont area of Lincoln, where I was raised, several times. At this time, Belmont was a seperate area cut off from Lincoln with an identity of its own. So references to that would have been natural. I found the story surprisingly accurate for the most part. Except of course for the desert scenes.
-At the time and in this movie, C.S. was portrayed as a killer who pretty much justs blasts away on his victims and moves on. There was a scene in which he is caught looking up the dress of a woman he has just killed, Fugate questions what he was doing. In reality, he sodomized the woman, AFTER he had killed her. I remember hearing too that the maid he had killed came in the coroners with bite marks covering her body. Starkweather was pretty demonic and dark. Something not well known.
-The actors/actresses weren't as bad as you'd think given the movies sloppy production techniques.
It would be easy to say this was just a low budget schlock film. But the story is actually pretty interesting, the characters fascinating. But it is too easy to laugh at the sloppy editing.
While Carol King was found with her pants and panties down, there was no sign of semen or sexual activity.
From Crime Library "There, he put six bullets into Jensen's head. Jensen's girlfriend Carol King was shot once in the head. Her body was left half-naked with her jeans and panties down around her ankles. She had been stabbed repeatedly in the abdomen and pubic area, but there was no evidence of semen in or around her vagina."
CHarlie either mutilated her, or Caril did. The stories are stilkl confused as the only witnessed were the young couple who both lied and changed their stories a number of times.
What is known, is that Charlie stabbed most of his victims a number of times and did not just shoot them once in the head like almost every victim in this movie.
What was missing, was how Caril and Charlie went back to Caril's house a number of times before the car chase.
This movie is very kitschy and styleized. A fun, interesting romp. Not academy award material, but good. (as for accents, I grew up in California and spent only a few weeks in Lincoln, but to me everyone had a "hick" accent.--in the 1950s, this would be even more true)
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Another goof:
It dosn't look like it is winter and -12 degrees.
It is summer because there are leafs on all the trees.
Here is another goof.
When the sheriff is chasing Starkweather and the deputy is hanging out the window of the car shooting at him with a shotgun. In the far away shot the deputy has his hat on but when they switch to the closeup his hat is gone. This happens several times.
A couple of other goofs:
1. When they have the house surrounded and are calling out CS the deputy sheriff's shotgun clearly shows a plugged barrel. It's obviously a prop.
2. When CS is in the house and says he's going to sit down and watch TV he turns the set on and it fires up instantly. There wasn't a TV on the planet that turned on that fast in 1958. They had to warm up...remember?
As with alot of you ,I too live in Nebraska.When he killed the station attendant in the beginning, the attendant said it was 10 degrees.He had the garage door open, working on a car and neither actor's breath was visible.
idk if i saw the same version or edit of the movie but- the boom mic was visible during the WHOLE movie!!!! it was actually pretty distracting. but i love this movie. very romantic.
shareThere were so many goofs in this movie, it's hard to know where to begin! Aside from the ones mentioned before, there are these:
1) One of the "captions" at the beginning of one scene said it took place on "Interstate 87". First of all, Interstate 87 is in New York state, connecting New York City with Canada. Second of all, Interstate 80 (the only Nebraska interstate highway, except for a 2-mile stretch of I-76 into Colorado) wasn't completed in Nebraska until 1974 - 15 years AFTER Starkweather fried.
2) As the cops are chasing him, they say he's "Headed east toward Wyoming." To get to Wyoming from Nebraska, one MUST travel west! There IS a US 87 in eastern Wyoming.
3) If they were already in Wyoming, what is the Lancaster County (Lincoln, Nebraska) Sheriff doing chasing them there? He wasn't in hot pursuit at the time he entered Wyoming (if we can even determine where he was captured from the mish-mash of the plot).
4) Minor nit-pick: At the time of Starkweather's rampage, car license plates in Nebraska started with the number of the county, based on the number of license plates registered in the county in 1922! So, Douglas County (Omaha) plates started with 1-, Lancaster County plates with 2-, etc. The license plate on his car started with 64-, or Morrill County (Bridgeport - out in western Nebraska - the home of Chimney Rock)! (The producers probably got a good price on the tag at an antique dealer or on eBay...)
Born and raised in Nebraska and proud of it!
There is a version of this movie with Tim Roth and Faruza Something-a-rather...That film is much better than this one is.
The main goof I noticed, was the Joshua Trees. They only grow in the southwest, and only as far east as Utah. Big error. I would think it would have cost less money to actually film this in Nebraska. Plus, locals may have interesting tid bits about them the writers may not have known, giving the movie a more personal touch.
This movie, IMHO, was just awful.
Yeah, the actual Ward house is still standing in Lincoln. But I believe that the Fugate and Starkweather homes were taken out.
The world will see you as a monster always. I don't want that.-Capote
Don't know if I was hearing things but when the sheriff goes to Carol Ann's house to investigate he questions Carol about her 'stepfather'?I believe that's what I heard him say.
Carol had a step mother not daddy.
Actually, Caril had both. In that case, it was her stepfather, Marion Bartlett. I believe that Charlie lived in the same apartment complex as Caril's father and stepmother for awhile.
The world will see you as a monster always. I don't want that.-Capote
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Apartment?Are you sure?Those 3 murders,the man,woman,and child took place in a house if I'm not mistaken.
No, I am saying that Caril had a stepfather and stepmother. Caril's stepfather and mother lived at the house. (Where Betty Jean Bartlett, Marion Bartlett, and Velda Bartlett were murdered). Caril's father and stepmother lived in an apartment. (Charlie didn't murder them.)
The world will see you as a monster always. I don't want that.-Capote
I wonder why caril's mother divorced Mr. Fugate, and what kind of relationship Caril had with her biological father?
Spiders! They want me to tapdance! I don't wanna tapdance!
Of my 30 page report on Starkweather, I never got an answer for that question. I can tell you a lot of other things, though.
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Spiders! They want me to tapdance! I don't wanna tapdance!
Like, I read STARKWEATHER: IMAGE OF A TEENAGE KILLER by William Allen. I saw this movie, which was no help. I interviewed the guard that walked him to the chair. I researched Starkweather on crimelibrary.com. And as a bonus, I live in Nebraska, so I can ask anyone that was alive and thinking in 1958-1959.
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Mr. Fugate was in prison for raping a little girl.
shareMr. Fugate was in prison for raping a little girl.
He was?
How did you find this out?
Makes you wonder if he ever sexually abused Caril or her older sister.
Dumbledore's gay, deal with it!
I read William Fugate went to jail for contributing to the deliquency of a minor and later died there. I don't know all the details, but I doubt he was like that with his daughters
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actually, this movie would be a version of that one, and i believe it is called Murder in the Heartland, made in 1993, it is far better than this one
shareThe Joshua trees in the background killed the movie for me. Do they think people are really that stupid????
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When the radio dispatcher was telling about Starkweather's found car, he called it a '55 Chevy.
It was definitely not a '55. I didn't see it long enough to identify it, but appears to be from late '40s.