Whoah, hold on. It was good. I've actually seen it. - My Sassy Girl (2008) Discussion

[–] phillyX 16 years ago

maybe it was good on its own... but since you haven't even watched the original in full nobody is gonna take ur word for it as people are definitely gonna compare them.

we'll see how reactions fly in seeing as it has already been leaked on the net. i for one prob won't see it.

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[–] squeakytoad 16 years ago

Do you know what the name of that symptom is where people believe originals are better simply because they're the original, and those people refuse to see otherwise?
Do you know what the name of that symptom is where people feel foreign garbage is superior just because it's praised by the critics even though nobody really likes it but feels that by saying they do they're sophisticated for appreciating a foreign film only hailed by critics because it's foreign?

I started watching more of the original. I couldn't stand it.

You all wanted this to be bad from the beginning.

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[–] fadedmemoryz 16 years ago

Do you know the symptom of people who argue just for having a sake of defending something that is clearly rubbish just because it's maybe American? The movie had clearly no charm or great comedy. You barely like either the guy or the girl. Theres just not that smooth onscreen performance. Now if you clearly look at this as compared to most romantic comedies that come out today, then yes this is clearly something different and at least better (whoa.. saying alot..) than most of the other garbage. But comparing it to the original, no the original is not better just because it was the original! Anyone who's watched both clearly sees why the original was better. The characters, the chemistry, the flow, the plot advancement, the script.

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[–] lucimon 16 years ago

and it only is different to the crap nowadays, because it is already BASED on a book/movie from 2001. So you can not even say it is that kind of different, because it was there before and not an original idea anymore :)

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[–] bima_p 16 years ago

You don't have to see the original for your opinion on the remake to be valid. You only have to see the remake. In fact, if you have seen the original, your opinion of the remake will mostly be biased.

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[–] boggeyman84 16 years ago

This movie sucked! I just watched it. It was way too rushed and you don't really get a feel for the characters. The lead, Charile, seems like an idiot and the girl seems really spoiled and the bad kind of crazy. Go watch the Korean one and then write about how good this one is not!

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[–] squeakytoad 16 years ago

Do you know what the name of that symptom is where people believe originals are better simply because they're the original, and those people refuse to see otherwise?
Do you know what the name of that symptom is where people feel foreign garbage is superior just because it's praised by the critics even though nobody really likes it but feels that by saying they do they're sophisticated for appreciating a foreign film only hailed by critics because it's foreign?

I started watching more of the original. I couldn't stand it.

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[–] phillyX 16 years ago

but since you haven't even watched the original in full nobody is gonna take ur word for it as people are definitely gonna compare them.
but since you haven't even watched the original in full nobody is gonna take ur word for it as people are definitely gonna compare them.
but since you haven't even watched the original in full nobody is gonna take ur word for it as people are definitely gonna compare them.
but since you haven't even watched the original in full nobody is gonna take ur word for it as people are definitely gonna compare them.

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[–] Travesty_42 16 years ago

but since you haven't even watched the original in full nobody is gonna take ur word for it as people are definitely gonna compare them.
but since you haven't even watched the original in full nobody is gonna take ur word for it as people are definitely gonna compare them.
but since you haven't even watched the original in full nobody is gonna take ur word for it as people are definitely gonna compare them.
but since you haven't even watched the original in full nobody is gonna take ur word for it as people are definitely gonna compare them.

Here's an idea: who gives a shìt if people compare them?

If someone who hasn't seen the original thinks this one's good, why is their judgement any less valid than someone who's seen the original? If the movie stands on its own as a good film who cares if it isn't as good as the original?

By the way, repeating the same things 4 times on a forum just makes you look like a pompous dick, which makes your opinion actually lose merit.

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[–] phillyX 16 years ago

"Here's an idea: who gives a shìt if people compare them?"

unless u possess the IQ of a turnip are u so far up his ass that u can't see he's already comparing them: "I started watching more of the original. I couldn't stand it."

jesus christ get a goddamn clue.

*By the way, repeating the same things 4 times on a forum just makes you look like a pompous dick, which makes your opinion actually lose merit.*

by the way, when somebody defends a person that started repeating themselves in the first place(hint: NOT ME) it's clear my theory about them being far up his ass actually holds merit.

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[–] Travesty_42 16 years ago

unless u possess the IQ of a turnip are u so far up his ass that u can't see he's already comparing them: "I started watching more of the original. I couldn't stand it."

And I'm saying who gives a shìt? The new versions quality does not have to be qualified by the original.

by the way, when somebody defends a person that started repeating themselves in the first place(hint: NOT ME) it's clear my theory about them being far up his ass actually holds merit.

He repeated himself in 2 different posts responding to 2 different individuals. You repeated yourself 4 times in the same post, which makes you look like a jackass since it's completely unnecessary.

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[–] squeakytoad 16 years ago

Also, Travesty is not in any way held accountable for my actions. Philly, you really make yourself a moron by attempting to attack him based on something I said. Wow just wow...

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[–] Monte1911 16 years ago

I'm with you squeakytoad. This movie is definitely one to watch, whether you have seen the Korean original (which was also fantastic) or not.

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[–] squeakytoad 16 years ago

Philly, I didn't originally compare the two. But once you guys started complaining that my opinion doesn't matter because I haven't seen the original, I decided I'd check it out.

Honestly, with your ignorance and childish behavior of you and others who liked the original Korean film and hated the remake, I greatly doubt the quality of the original and give very little weight to your opinion on the remake.
You say the first one is "deep", but I doubt such a simpleton can comprehend depth of any kind.

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[–] phillyX 16 years ago

"Philly, I didn't originally compare the two. But once you guys started complaining that my opinion doesn't matter because I haven't seen the original, I decided I'd check it out."

good for you... now we know that you lack the attention span to even sit through the original.
to put it in ur own words: You wanted it to be bad from the beginning.

"Honestly, with your ignorance and childish behavior of you and others who liked the original Korean film and hated the remake, I greatly doubt the quality of the original and give very little weight to your opinion on the remake.
You say the first one is "deep", but I doubt such a simpleton can comprehend depth of any kind."

honestly with ur lack of reading comprehension, ignorance and just the fact that u think ur opinion matters in the slightest(especially when u can't sit through the original) all makes people think ur a moron... ESPECIALLY when i haven't given ANY sort of opinion regarding depth and/or the overall quality of the remake other than mentioning i prob won't see it.

"Also, Travesty is not in any way held accountable for my actions. Philly, you really make yourself a moron by attempting to attack him based on something I said. Wow just wow..."

sorry but when somebody critizises u for doing something that was previously done in the thread but chooses to disregard it in the first place and bring it up the 2nd time around it is clear the person in question is riding on somebody's ****.

"He repeated himself in 2 different posts responding to 2 different individuals. You repeated yourself 4 times in the same post, which makes you look like a jackass since it's completely unnecessary."

unnecassary say's who? apparently the OP didn't get the message the first time around so i had to make sure he got it then.

"Philly, you really make yourself a moron by attempting to attack him based on something I said. Wow just wow..."

and lemme guess... he's a saint for attempting to defend u based on something u said huh? wow just wow...

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[–] Travesty_42 16 years ago

honestly with ur lack of reading comprehension, ignorance and just the fact that u think ur opinion matters in the slightest(especially when u can't sit through the original) all makes people think ur a moron... ESPECIALLY when i haven't given ANY sort of opinion regarding depth and/or the overall quality of the remake other than mentioning i prob won't see it.

For the love of God man, please don't ever try to call someone a moron when you type like a 12 year-old AOLer.

Also, you have given an opinion on the depth of the remake, by saying you won't see it. That means you're closed-minded and aren't even willing to give it a shot, which makes your opinion worth about jack and shìt.

As I said before, the remake's quality does not have to be validated by viewing the original. They're 2 seperate films, and can be judged for quality independently of each other.

sorry but when somebody critizises u for doing something that was previously done in the thread but chooses to disregard it in the first place and bring it up the 2nd time around it is clear the person in question is riding on somebody's ****.

Except what he did was completely different because he "repeated himself" in 2 different posts to 2 different individuals, which means he wasn't repeating himself at all. He was responding with the same answer to 2 people, you were just being a dick.

unnecassary say's who? apparently the OP didn't get the message the first time around so i had to make sure he got it then.

"Unnecassary" says anyone with a brain, because this is a forum with text. It's not like you need to repeat yourself because he didn't hear you, it's just you trying to be a dick.

and lemme guess... he's a saint for attempting to defend u based on something u said huh? wow just wow...

I wasn't even defending him. You were the one who first brought his reply up in an attack on me. I just responded to your attack by pointing out that what you two did was different.

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[–] phillyX 16 years ago

"For the love of God man, please don't ever try to call someone a moron when you type like a 12 year-old AOLer."

last time i checked this wasn't an english term paper, u weren't my teacher and this board wasn't a school.. not to mention u forgot to mention my lack of caps at the beginning of sentences too.
honestly can u even bend what with that stick u have shoved inside u?

"Also, you have given an opinion on the depth of the remake, by saying you won't see it. That means you're closed-minded and aren't even willing to give it a shot, which makes your opinion worth about jack and shìt."

me stating i won't see it is NOT AN OPINION. it's a FACT and has absolutely nothing to do with my bias for or against the movie.
christ u can't even get this straight and yet try to argue semantics regarding the next issue.

"Except what he did was completely different because he "repeated himself" in 2 different posts to 2 different individuals, which means he wasn't repeating himself at all."

i'm sorry but whatever supposed logic ur striving for here is astounding... apparently him "repeating himself" and me "repeating myself" are 2 >COMPLETELY DIFFERENT< things... so is this glass i'm holding in my hand half full or half empty now?

"As I said before, the remake's quality does not have to be validated by viewing the original. They're 2 seperate films, and can be judged for quality independently of each other."

it's nice that u feel the need to repeat urself(but according to urself this prob isn't a repeat or whatever flawed logic that's running through ur mind) but what's the point when i haven't argued against or disputed this fact?

is it possible u did it to get the message through? WOW that sounds AWFULLY familiar now doesn't it?

"Unnecassary" says anyone with a brain, because this is a forum with text. It's not like you need to repeat yourself because he didn't hear you"

this is a forum with text and apparently OP didn't get my message the first time around which is why i repeated it again. before even thinking about going further u should take a long, hard look in the mirror, kettle.

"I wasn't even defending him."

of course u weren't... it's funny how u see my response as an attack when i did exactly what the OP did by reposting the same exact message which apparently in travesty world comes off as an attack. so yea... "of course u weren't".

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[–] Travesty_42 16 years ago

last time i checked this wasn't an english term paper, u weren't my teacher and this board wasn't a school..

The typical response of someone who comes across like a complete knuckle-dragging imbecile on a forum because they can't be bothered to ƒucking spell out simple words. Congrats.

me stating i won't see it is NOT AN OPINION. it's a FACT and has absolutely nothing to do with my bias for or against the movie.

Stating a fact can express an opinion in the context of an argument, genius.

i'm sorry but whatever supposed logic ur striving for here is astounding... apparently him "repeating himself" and me "repeating myself" are 2 >COMPLETELY DIFFERENT< things... so is this glass i'm holding in my hand half full or half empty now?

He was respondeing to 2 different people.

Here, let me spell it out for you in real-world terms:

If I walk up to some random person on the street and say, "Hey, I think Batman is an awesome movie," and then walk up to a second random person in the street and say "Hey, I think Batman is an awesome movie," that is expressing the same opinion to multiple individuals, and not repeating myself to either one. That is what squeakytoad was doing.

If I walk up to some random person in the street and say "I think batman sucks! I think batman sucks! I think batman sucks! I think batman sucks!" THEN I would be repeating myself and looking like a complete dick, like you were doing.

Yes, they're different.

it's nice that u feel the need to repeat urself(but according to urself this prob isn't a repeat or whatever flawed logic that's running through ur mind) but what's the point when i haven't argued against or disputed this fact?

is it possible u did it to get the message through? WOW that sounds AWFULLY familiar now doesn't it?

You were still making the same argument about the vailidity of his opinion on the remake without viewing the original, and my argument hasn't changed, so I responded with a similar comment. I didn't post the same comment 4 times in 1 post.

this is a forum with text and apparently OP didn't get my message the first time around which is why i repeated it again. before even thinking about going further u should take a long, hard look in the mirror, kettle.

"I wasn't even defending him."

of course u weren't... it's funny how u see my response as an attack when i did exactly what the OP did by reposting the same exact message which apparently in travesty world comes off as an attack. so yea... "of course u weren't".

It's not that you posted the same message, it's that you posted the same message 4 times in 1 post, which no one else in this entire thread has done, which makes you look like a dick.

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[–] phillyX 16 years ago

"The typical response of someone who comes across like a complete knuckle-dragging imbecile on a forum because they can't be bothered to ƒucking spell out simple words. Congrats. "

so basically the answer is "no i can't bend because of this stick i got shoved so far up my ass people can actually see it if they look down my throat". whatever makes u feel smarter and "so" much more important on an internet message board little buddy.

"Stating a fact can express an opinion in the context of an argument, genius."

did u just say that it's possible to state opinions as fact?
wow... pure genius this one.

"Yes, they're different."

again... seeing as u missed it the first time around: is this glass i'm holding in my hand half full or half empty now?

i could spam it 1000 times and the point still stands. the message didn't get through and now i'm sure it has and for obvious reasons(refer to the stick up ass comment) ur the only one who seems to be bothered by it.

"You were still making the same argument about the vailidity of his opinion on the remake without viewing the original, and my argument hasn't changed, so I responded with a similar comment. I didn't post the same comment 4 times in 1 post."

apparently u just fail to comprehend that he did start to compare them and whatever unbiased view he has for the remake is now gone.

also it's spelled "validity" and "responding"... not "vailidity" or "respondeing".
see? now i'm being a ****.. but it's obvious to everyone now u can't tell the difference.

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[–] Travesty_42 16 years ago

did u just say that it's possible to state opinions as fact?

No, I didn't. Learn to read.

again... seeing as u missed it the first time around: is this glass i'm holding in my hand half full or half empty now?

I'm not going to spell it out for you again. It was clear the first time. If you can't understand why you're being an idiot, then I can't help you.

apparently u just fail to comprehend that he did start to compare them

I never once said that he didn't compare them, I just said why should anyone give a shìt if he, or anyone else, does.

Also, if preferring to read comments made by people on message board without having to sort through terrible grammar and AOL-speak means I have a stick up my ass, then I'm more than happy to have it there. I'd rather have a stick up my ass than look like an unintelligent dolt.

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[–] phillyX 16 years ago

"No, I didn't. Learn to read."

ok so give me another example of this "stating opinion as fact in the context of the argument" then.

"I'm not going to spell it out for you again. It was clear the first time. If you can't understand why you're being an idiot, then I can't help you."

but apparently changing letters to not have the curse words filtered makes u so much more mature mirite?
selective disregard is always easier when focusing on others is it not?

"Also, if preferring to read comments made by people on message board without having to sort through terrible grammar and AOL-speak means I have a stick up my ass, then I'm more than happy to have it there."

i'm sorry mr. college professor.. hey can u teach me the "vailidity" of correct grammar and then "respondeing" in a manner so us lesser beings can understand it?

"A guy who criticizes me for not wanting to watch through the Korean version (though I've hardly judged it- I don't have any solid opinions on the movie yet; I'll have to watch the whole thing before I can), but then totally blasts the remake without even seeing any of it. . Hypocrisy is awesome, right"

i'm pretty sure this comment wasn't directed towards me. if it were then give me an excample of this so-called "blasting" i've done towards the remake.

oh and not to mention a comment like "I started watching more of the original. I couldn't stand it." sounds pretty damn judgemental.

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[–] Travesty_42 16 years ago

ok so give me another example of this "stating opinion as fact in the context of the argument" then.

I didn't say "stating opinion as fact," I said stating a fact can express an opinion, in the context of an argument.

Simple example: My opinion is that blue is the best color. I'm going to express this in an argument by telling you all the awesome things that are blue, which are facts.

but apparently changing letters to not have the curse words filtered makes u so much more mature mirite?
selective disregard is always easier when focusing on others is it not?

There's this debate fallacy, that you're probably not aware of, because you don't sound old enough, called a "red herring." This response is a perfect example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignoratio_elenchi#Red_herring

It's used to divert from the original issue. I was never arguing maturity level, I was saying why you were being stupid for trying to argue that what the two of you did was the same, when it clearly wasn't, and I explained it. An explanation you've yet to prove wrong, or really even argue, because it's correct. Instead you're using red herrings to divert from the fact that you're wrong.

i'm sorry mr. college professor.. hey can u teach me the "vailidity" of correct grammar and then "respondeing" in a manner so us lesser beings can understand it?

There's a difference between the occasional typo and idiocy, through the intentional misspelling of simple words like you and your, out of pure laziness.

i'm pretty sure this comment wasn't directed towards me. if it were then give me an excample of this so-called "blasting" i've done towards the remake.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0404254/board/thread/103035879?d=103868623 #103868623
Blasting like this?

"Damn it's worse than I though.t" All based on a trailer before the movie was even released. Congrats on your hypocrisy.

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[–] phillyX 16 years ago

wow that's just sad.

going through the lengths of examining my post history just to find something to fire back at me.

that post was from 4 months ago which i completely forgot about and everything i've typed at present in this thread came from a neutral point of view with no biased view regarding the movie whatsoever.

hell the thought of me already watching the trailer never occurred to me in the first place not to mention i wasn't even the one who brought the quality of the remake into this discussion.

edit: and apparently the OP just decided to bump the old thread just to further his argument.

christ u guys are indeed sad.

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[–] Travesty_42 16 years ago

What's sad is that I didn't even need to look through your history because I could tell from the tone of your first post that you were hostile toward the remake. You don't have to explicitly come out and say it for the tone to get across. It's called reading between the lines. Your old post just further cemented the argument.

Also, congrats on another typical idiot response of someone who's beaten in an argument. Call the other person(s) "sad" and/or "lame." Genius.
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[–] phillyX 16 years ago

no what's really sad is that u did look through it and just further cements the fact that u take ur internet message board elitism seriously.

also point out the place where my first post suggested ANY hostility towards the remake... hell i even admitted that the movie might be good on its OWN but also that PEOPLE WILL COMPARE them like every other remake in recent history(ju-on, pulse, dark water, the departed etc.).

u wanna talk about red herrings?
how about calling me a **** or bringing grammar into the discussion in the first place.. but apparently I'M diverting attention for calling u out on the absolute need to swear without having it filtered.

"Call the other person(s) "sad" and/or "lame."

yes it's sad as hell when u can't even limit ur discussion to this thread and this thread alone but have to bring outdated and long forgotten "evidence" to the topic and just furthers the proof that u do indeed take this msg board elitism very seriously.

you've shown ur hypocrisy over and over again in this topic and yet u still try to call me out on mine(of which the only thing was true was my long forgotten negative view of the TRAILER).

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[–] Travesty_42 16 years ago

yes it's sad as hell when u can't even limit ur discussion to this thread and this thread alone but have to bring outdated and long forgotten "evidence" to the topic and just furthers the proof that u do indeed take this msg board elitism very seriously

Why the hell would I limit my discussion to this thread when your previous posts in other threads prove my point? Two people in this thread were calling you out on seeming hostile toward the movie before even looking at your post history. You know why that is? Because it was obvious that you were. And your previous post proved that.

Ah yes, I take my "elitism" very seriously. Let me tell you, it was a monumental effort to click on your name and go to page 2 to find a post of yours. It took me like, 9 hours.

u wanna talk about red herrings?
how about calling me a **** or bringing grammar into the discussion in the first place.. but apparently I'M diverting attention for calling u out on the absolute need to swear without having it filtered.

The difference is I called you a dick(because you were being one) and brought grammar into it(because your grammar sucks), but I also went on to prove my argument and address what we were originally talking about. You just diverted the discussion without actually addressing my argument.

you've shown ur hypocrisy over and over again in this topic and yet u still try to call me out on mine(of which the only thing was true was my long forgotten negative view of the TRAILER

Show me where I've been hypocritical.

Also, your negative view wasn't "of the TRAILER." You specifically said "i watched the trailer and already i hate the movie."

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[–] glooba110 16 years ago

I didn't know ignorance could reach such a level, esspecially on the internet.

philly, anyone with half a brain and a second grade comprehension level can conclude on their own that you're an idiot.

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[–] squeakytoad 16 years ago

You know what's hilarious? A guy who criticizes me for not wanting to watch through the Korean version (though I've hardly judged it- I don't have any solid opinions on the movie yet; I'll have to watch the whole thing before I can), but then totally blasts the remake without even seeing any of it.
Hypocrisy is awesome, right?

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[–] TheHarshAndLastWord 16 years ago

I've seen it and being open minded I must say this movie attempted to recreate the flare of the first movie. yet it jsut didnt do that, even if this movie was a stand alone it just didnt seem strong enough. Overall it was a decent film, comparing it to the original then yes.. it's a big let down.

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