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I HATE PEOPLE WHO COMPARE MOVIES


Several remakes have been compared to the original:The Ring, The Grudge, My Sassy Girl, and even during post production of the movie, people would immediately criticize how lame it would be to remake a good movie and blame how it would turn out as not as expected. It has always been the same situation of foreign to Hollywood films. Remakes are also good and a way of refashioning it to different cultures. Don't always think remakes are less worthy of acclaim..

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-_- have you seen the original?

I thought 'the ring' was better than ringu, becuase of how funny the original verion was how they died and had their mouth open. The grudge, I couldnt care for both, wasn't good. The departed, i seen the american version, and thought it was great, still yet to see the original. My Sassy girl - korean version way better, it was just more heart filling then this remake (lol the original was made in 01 why was there any need for a remake?).

And yes, this version is lamer than the original.
Most of it made sense with the cultural differences, asians only have black hair (hypothetically speaking - acutally very dark shades of brown is the correct term) so how does america change this? Ditzy blondes are dumbalike, that works. But somethings in the movie made no sense, like the kendo part. They should have change that into more of a boxing thing. The original slapping was better (subway). Some improvements could be made, why not make a remake remake of a remake. >_>

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Not going to get into an argument here, but the reality is simple as that.

To the O.P. people compare because the movies because they are direct remakes, it's expected.

Also, remakes that are noteworthy like the Ring or The Departed or Vanilla Sky, then well, compare, but worth praising.


However this one was going to be a bomber from the get-go.

In addition it got 5.5/10 while the original got like 8.6/10 or so.

Enough said.

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Seriously, just watched the trailer for this, is this a joke? A parody?

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And I hate people who buys the distribution rights of original movies, locks them in a closet and wait for the righr money to produce a poor remake in order to achieve a a cheap profit.

Of course it is the same people that accuses random constumers of using the internet to °steal° the original.

I wonder how can people be so DAMN double standards...

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Aeon-Flux-Capcitor,

I'd agree, No, correction, I can relate to what you've said, or perhaps can see where you're coming from. Unfortunately, you're quite incorrect and assume too much.

Your mistake is that you assume that just because people have seen an original movie, ALL OF THEM will automatically have a pre-existent bias when judging the remake. The truth is that yes, they mostly will, but many will judge it objectively; people are not as thick-brained as you think. Though you have to look at the Hollywood trend of remakes and ask yourself, how many were actually noteworthy, how many surpassed the original, and how many were just a money grabbing scheme to maintain a studio movie quota'? Those are the true angering underlying issues behind pitiful remakes. Guess which one My Sassy girl belongs to? The movie is sub-par regardless of the original; it's a dime a dozen to similar movies along this trend, along with Win a date with Tad Hamilton, to She's All that. (Although She's all that engrossed a whole lot due to popularity, it was a crappy clichéd and generic movie.) People gave This remake a Low score because it was a poor-movie, PERIOD. The fact that it's a remake just added oil to the fire, but it was already burning from the get-go.

Check this out, The Departed won an Oscar, and is a damn good movie. I personally don't think it's better than the original, but it was very well made and entertaining, from beginning to end. Same with Vanilla-Sky, which I actually prefer over the 'Open Your Eyes' original take; I couldn't care less if a movie is pretentious, and I doubt if many more are, as long as the entertainment value and the story is conveyed in a clever way not to make that commentary too obvious. Take for example a movie like The Host. Some may say it's pretentious, and yes, the overall message might be, but the movie was made so well; casting, construction, cinematography, score, pacing and special effects and not to mention the proper use of balance satire, humour, horror and thriller told the story so-well that it made the overall message fun to absorb. Just something to think about.


As for Donnie Darko, that movie unfortunately was subjected to a shocking director's cut that revealed a plot that burst many viewers abstract acceptance of the movie; and thus ensued the arguments you've describe.

However, in the end, the movie as intended was to be taken at face value first, and your own interpretations second, it's as simple as that.


Your can't see the forest past the trees analogy does not fit this scenario, this remake is bad and barely entertaining.

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Sorry Aeon-Flux,

but you've seem to miss my point.

I totally agree with all the points you've made. In fact, that is very similar to my philosophy of viewing movies. I can't speak for everyone, but myself, while realizing the sad truth behind some of Hollywood's attempts at remakes, it has never stopped me from giving them a chance. I've even seen Shutter prior to seeing the Thai original. And I will say this right now, it's wasn't awful as people say it was, in fact it had a decent story. However, I can name the flaws that made that movie a 'Meh' and a shrug instead of a 'Wow' very clearly, and in-fact could write a better script myself. When there's such a scenario, or when you a watch a movie when you feel and know that you could've written better, you know it wasn't 'good'. It's just that simple. This doesn't mean that every single remake by Hollywood is like that; as I mentioned the examples before, I feel that one or two may have surpassed my appreciation to the original, and the new take feels better. The Departed and Vanilla Sky are prime examples; and I have no issues with that. The Ring and the First Grudge were fairly decent, and while realizing that superiority of the originals, I've still rated them as stand-alone movies. To me the comparison comes naturally but it will not detract from the potential of enjoyment or appreciation to the remake. The only thing it will do it might make me realize how much better it could've and should have been. And while a remake, by the definition is art, it is by default and the nature of it, will always be subjected to comparison; it's just is. And unfortunately for you to ask people to completely ignore that aspect is slightly pretentious and to be honest, naive' (no offense meant.)

Think of this with similarities to song make-overs. How many songs out there were subjected to re-do's and remakes; hell a big part of Hip-Hop/Rap construct is made out of re sampling tracks from other songs, and those are entire genre's. Then again, when the rights are rightfully bought, and the re-do, re-make is justifiable then very few will complain. Some will still like the original more, and some might buy-into the new one, and many will listen to both... it's marketing, nothing wrong with that. However, when a remake doesn't do justice, then its entire conceptual philosophy is under questioning; AKA 'Why for the Love of God, Why'... We've seen those threads before right?

Unfortunately, this remake is one of the latter; not very good, and not justifiable by any means other than cash-flow.

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I just love it how everyone has a degree in theatre or cinema and can rant about pacing and special effects. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. So unless you're sitting in the director's chair I think everyone plays armchair quarterback no matter how much you think you "know" about movie making.

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Well if the It is a success there is no need to remake it, PUT the ORIGINAL in the US theatres and put some SUBTITLES on it, don't go REMAKE masterpieces to monumental pieces of crap. If you do a remake of a very old movie like War of the worlds and change the basic script without destroying the movie then i say YES, but the retarded way of COPY PASTE with US actors because they can't write a script any more, disgust me, especially when they don't understand the feeling of the real story of it.

Take the Ring some say it was better then Ringu, False, they made an action movie of a horror. And made a sooooo Immense mistake in the end it is not forgiveable. Wich one. the scene that she find the well and has to hurry as so little time left to save herself, in that scene you can see many things happen water stating to run in a weird way and so on. Why this happens? As she was already saved for 2 days without knowing, so nothing can happen as there is no reason any more, that's where ringu is flawless on the story. Something the US maker didn't understand, he wanted to make more action to do impressive things on screen. But when you don't even understand the script it proves that it is simple COPY PASTE for money. And then people like you expect we shut up when you destroy original movies and say they are soooo much better. no way.

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"Well if the It is a success there is no need to remake it, PUT the ORIGINAL in the US theatres and put some SUBTITLES on it, don't go REMAKE masterpieces to monumental pieces of crap."
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THIS, yes - agreed. Thank you!
This is what more Hollywood companies SHOULD do: circulate and promote international films instead of trying to Americanise them and grow a market for foreign films. People obviously DO want to see the originals all over, so why not just take the money they'd be wasting on a poor remake that could actually damage the reputation of the original [even minorly] and just market a subtitled version?

Bah, c'est la vie for now, I suppose.

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I don't mind if someone remakes a movie to "honor" it.. like a tribute or sth,
but these hollywood remakes are produced for the money they make. Period.
They just try to make it all fit for the american people, changing the scenes where foreign culture is involved, easing the script to make it lighter, etc.
I dunno why, but americans (for what I could see in IMDB's posts) don't like subtitles, they dub anything in order to make it smoother, cropping incomplete the performance of the actors involved.
They wouldn't make enough money by releasing the original film, becasue they don't own the rights, and because many people wouldn't go to see a foreign film, so they do the remake as a business decision.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it's just money going bqack and forth, but the final product will rarely be like the original (that's were directors try to put their effort with the limitations that producers impose, but that's another sotry..)

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Something is interesting: You say that remakes are a way to refashion a movie to different cultures, yet every US remake is dumbed down considerably. What does that tell you?

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Well, I hate people who feel that audiences need to have a remake full of Americans because they feel that watching non-Americans just doesn't work for them.

I feel that My Sassy Girl was a poor remake because alot of the themes in the movie are just too Asian and it looked awkward with Westerners performing in the roles.


That and Elisha Cuthbert is a bad actress who looked like she was forcing out her emotions through the movie.

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....mmmmmm lets make another version of the Mona Lisa for the American public.....

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People that complain about this type of thing really bug me after awhile...

It's inevitable that movies are going to be re-made.. particularly when they're originally foreign films. Yes, they are a lot better a great deal of the time, but who are the remakes really hurting? As the OP said, it translates it to other cultures. I'm sure a lot of the time people who watch a remake (which, frankly, I didn't even realise this was until I came on here) will go out and watch the original afterwards. So who really cares?

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