How is this possible? By taking the end of that film and delevoping it into another story line would completely compromise the integrity of the first film! He is a great director and I love his films so I will definetly make an effort to see it.
Does anyone know the name of the movie he did - it was more of a documentary film where he interviewed his daughter throughout her adolescent years with mainly a focus on her being a pionerka?
Pretty sure your talking about "Anna: From Six Till Eighteen" (http://imdb.com/title/tt0106290/)
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Ryan Mills gave you the correct answer.
And I am very, very sad to see Russia join those countries that produce sequels, remakes etc. I always felt that authors in Europe, especially eastern, have more freedom and that a real art can still be made there.
Maybe I'm wrong, and with my whole heart I hope that I am, and that the director has in his mind a story that will justify making this sequel. But even if so, I wish they'd change the name. Stories that lean somehow on earlier movies are not a new thing for Europe, but counting them like Americans do makes only a commercial impression. Just few examples... Márta Mészáros' Napló (Diary)- movies... Andrzej Wajda's Czlowiek z- movies... Louis de Funes in gendarme- movies... Bergman's Saraband - a sequel to highly successful Scener ur ett äktenskap... even children movies made upon Astrid Lindgren's books... Only some French high commercial movies had sequels with numbers (La boom, Taxi), but that WAS ment only for commercial reasons, and I can hardly compare Mikhalkov's movies to these last mentioned ones.
Well, there's a sad truth i gotta tell you about Mikhalkov - he used to be a talented film director, but now he's self indulgent egomaniac who thinks that he is a godfather of russian film industry
He tries hard to produce "hollywood" movies in russia, and this one looks certainly like an attempt to score on the success of its predecessor
Thank you for your answer - though the news are not good. I checked his board and stayed breathlessly disappointed to find he hasn't made a movie in almost ten years (and now he's making a sequel...!). Though I haven't seen many of his movies, he seemed to me as the leading Russian director after Tarkovsky. Too bad for him, for Russia and movielovers all around the world.
And you seem to be well informed. I guess you live there and get news from the source. (Is "mysh" a mouse?)
Actually he has made movies since "Burnt by the Sun," his recent movie "12" was nominated for an Academy Award in 2007.
shareThat's true, but at the time I was writing my reply there had been no information on IMDb (it is common that USA movies are announced and followed through every step of production, but there are no data about movies from most other countries till they are released. And there is often a big delay for movies from ex-USSR countries. I remember watching (in my country) a good Ukrainian movie (Noch svetla) that had been made a whole year before, and there has still been no information about it on IMDb (even the fact that it exists at all). Now there are some basic, but very very limited data on thi site.
So, at that time I had no chance to know that Mikhalkov was (finally) in action. However, your post is an important contribution to the thread.
I watched BBTS2...what a disaster. Its possibly the worst retconning I have ever seen in any form of media. I cannot believe he thought this would be a good idea after the amazing work he did in the first one.
shareMikhalkov, being very ambitious, has become a commercially oriented director since 90s at least. For instance, The Barber of Siberia was apparently made with American audience in mind. Nobody from post-soviet countries would buy it because of the abundance of historical and logical inconsistencies. You don't have to be an expert to notice them (and for experts - let's say, in weapons, military ranks, machinery or history in general, its even more horrible to watch). Some of those goofs are so blantant that no way let you suspend your disbelief. Similar things one could see in a Holywood production about Russia (like Lev Andropov drinking vodka and wearing fur hat and operating equipment with a hammer only at a space station). But seeing stuff like that by RUSSIAN director in a movie about RUSSIA makes you think one of two things: either the director hates Russia so much, thus mocking it in such a brazen way, or ... money. The latter seems more plausible to me.
Talking about Burnt by the Sun-2: well, after reading plenty of lashing reviews I expected worse and even hesitated to watch. My impression after watching - similar to the one from "The Barber...": the movie would work for foreigners. Convincing acting, impressive depiction of the atrocities of the war, but... just too incredible. Too hollywoodish. The rape scene in the car is virtually a "quote" from "Once upon a time in America" - even the same camera angle.
Didn't work for this foreigner. I'm not sure if my English subtitled DVD was all of Burnt by the Sun2, or just The Citadel, I think the latter, so forgive my confusion.
I don't much care about how the Soviet army is represented, as I don't rely on this movie to let me know whether there were smart Russian generals or not. I assume there were, but war breeds stupidity everywhere. What I couldn't take was the sheer hysteria of the picture. Each character behaved annoyingly out of character... over demonstrative and selfish just to enhance Kotov's heroism and isolation. For example: Kotov's wife (who looked way too young) has a hissy fit because Kotov named her under torture, with no regard for what he must have been experiencing. Dmitri has an episode shown in flashback where he rapes the love his life...not in character. So now the ex white Russian NKVD guy gets to be an unadulturated bad guy, just to make Kotov look better.
Kotov is sentimental and over demonstrative as always...SO i guess he stays in character. The scene where they take the Citadel without a shot is the most interesting...the rest is all over emotional annoying noise.
How could the director of Burnt by the Sun write something without emotional complexity and worse, without interest? Perhaps someone else wrote the original Burnt by the Sun script?
Mikhalkov don't care about integrity and continuity. In interview he said people should see the wider picture and main idea, not stick with stupid details and goofs (and there will be a lot of them like the age of his daughter 10 years older than it should be). Actually I think he's doing this film only for his loving daughter to be filmed.
shareDidn't the end of Utomlyonnye Solntsem explain what happens to the all the characters after the events of the movie? I recall vividly that there was a text-narration right after Sergei Petrovich is taken away in the car. Am I wrong about that?
shareNo you are not. There is a very clear text explanation of what happened to everyone after the events shown on camera, which just makes this sequel even more unnecessary, and to be honest, quite ridiculous.
**sigh** but I will probably hope against hope, although I shouldn't, and go see it anyway (and probably leave the theater massively disappointed).
You're not wrong at all, rune3000. There was in fact a text narration at the end of the movie that explained that Kotov was shot in 1936, Marussya died in the GULag system in 1940, Nadya was released from the GULag system at the time of her rehabilitation in 1956 and that all three were rehabilitated (posthumously, in the cases of Kotov and Marussya).
However, I saw a segment on YouTube of some preproduction footage from Utomlyonnye Solntsem 2 - and yuck. They have managed to have Kotov get recycled into service in the Great Patriotic War for the Red Army after a conversation with Stalin, Mitya didn't commit suicide after all (!) and is back seducing Marussya (who must have been released from the GULag, or what have you) and it's going to be a disaster.
There is still a lot of muzhik humour from what little I've seen, but it's basically a war movie/romance (!) without the deep meaning of the first film.
I thought a sequel would have been fantastic had they basically made a Russian version of Schindler's List and showed the horrors of life in the GULag and the disregard for life under the regime and focused on the impact on Marussya and Nadya of the hard life after the death of Kotov, but no - they want to chase action-film market share and taint the legacy of the first film. And partially rehabilitate that bastard Stalin while they're at it.
Utomlyonnye Solntsem 2 : Utomlonnye Soltsem :: Godfather 3 : Godfather 2
If this sequal gets made and released, I will be deeply disappointed. Utomlyonne Solntsem was a wonderful, powerful film, and ended precisely the way it needed to. Monkeying further with this story would show a profound lack of judgement, much as Francis Coppola did with Godfather III.
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I always wondered how a supporter of communism, such as yourself, would have viewed this movie.
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I am not a supporter of communism. I am an enormous fan of Burnt By the Sun and if this sequel is released I will boycott it.
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Oh dear, it was a bit sh!te wasn't it? I hope part III is a bit better.
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