Why is Marcus a hybrid?
Michael asks Selene at one point if Marcus is a hybrid and she nods. I thought Marcus was only a vampire and William only werewolf. Also it's mentionened a few times that Michael is one of a kind.
Any opinions?
Michael asks Selene at one point if Marcus is a hybrid and she nods. I thought Marcus was only a vampire and William only werewolf. Also it's mentionened a few times that Michael is one of a kind.
Any opinions?
I assume because he was awakened by the blood of a lycan (end of the first underworld)
Lycans blood awakens him, and gives him wings?
What about Alexander ? Wtf was he that he was so powerful yet neither vampire nor Lycan?
Alexander was the first true immortal, there was a virus back in his time and because of a rare blood disease it mutated and gave him strength and immortality.
He then gave birth to 3 sons, 1 of them stayed mortal and died with the sleeping gene (Michael is one of the descendant), the other two got bite, one by a bat and one by a wolf.
Lol, he gave birth huh? That's some mutation!
shareHere is my theory: Markus is NOT a vampire/lycan hybrid.
When Selene told Michael that Markus was a hybrid, she hadn't discovered the true history yet. She only judged according to Markus' skin colour which was similar to Michael's.
A vampire/lycan hybrid, other than Sonja and Lucian's unborn child & Eve, can only be created using 3 elements:
1. A HUMAN Corvinus descendant who is receptive to both Vampire and Lycan viruses
2. Lycan virus
3. Vampire virus
Michael Corvin used to be a HUMAN who had potential to combine both viruses within his body. He had a clean slate before receiving the 2 viruses from Lucian and then from Selene.
Markus, however, was already a vampire.
Remember the chamber scene in the 1st movie? Viktor questioned the truthfulness of the Corvinus legend confessed by Singe, the lycan scientist, "There is a descendant of Corvinus lying there, not three feet from you."
Singe replied, "Yes, but he's already a vampire. We needed pure resource. Untainted..."
This confirmed what I said earlier. They needed Michael, a HUMAN descendant who is receptive to both viruses. Markus is the original vampire. Markus cannot be turned into a hybrid of vampire and lycan. I believe that Singe's blood only had the function of awakening Markus, rather than transforming him.
Patrick, the production designer of Underworld Evolution, when talking about Markus' winged design, referred to Markus as a "full blown vampire" (check out behind the scenes in DVD).
They would've needed a human descendant in order to extract a pure sample of the original Corvinus strain, because they wanted to transplant it into Lucian who's not at all related to Corvinus. That doesn't mean Marcus can't be a hybrid, it just means his blood would be useless because it's already vampirized. If they used it on Lucian, he'd probably die.
It's not perfect, because Michael was bitten by both species, while Marcus was hybridized by drinking of a lycan. If it can be done that way then William should probably be a hybrid too since it's likely he's chowed down on vampires during his rampages. But maybe lycans need to be bitten while vampires do the biting. It's kinda similar with memories too. The Elders can read memories from blood but Michael got Lucian's memories from being bitten.
Anyway, the story would be much more problematic if Marcus could've transformed all this time, as opposed to him just being hybridized now, so the latter is the more likely option.
Thanks for the reply! Finally a true fan of Underworld replied! :)
The Uber Lycan, Quint, in Underworld Awakening is super powerful as a result of the experiments conducted on Selene's family, the hybrids, Michael and Eve. Quint possessed immunity to silver, instant healing, and increased vastly in size after transformation...
That was possibly what Lucian and Raze had always strived to achieve in Underworld 1. They wanted to create a hybrid for study, and thereby enhance themselves. I don't think they actually wanted to TURN THEMSELVES into hybrids.
I still believe that Michael and Eve are the only 2 vampire lycan hybrids throughout the series. I believe a lot of what wikia or Wikipedia says is wrong and needs further editing. For example, wikia writers consider Selene a hybrid as well! No, she became an ENHANCED VAMPIRE after drinking Alexander's blood, just like Quint was an ENHANCED LYCAN. Markus was the original VAMPIRE, which was why he was bat like.
You mentioned how the vampire and wolf viruses got transmitted. I believe both can be transmitted onto humans through biting. Both Lucian and Selene bit Michael. Another way is virus infection through blood. Remember the syringe containing Amelia's blood? That was meant for Michael. I believe Michael would be way more powerful than he is now, had he been injected with Amelia's blood instead of being bitten by Selene.
Yes, William could have bitten vampires during his rampages. But even if he had, I don't think that would have transformed him. He was introduced as the original WEREWOLF, just like his brother Markus was the original VAMPIRE.
It is simple.
William was bitten by a vicious wolf, and turned into THE BIG BAD WOLF.
Markus was bitten by a vicious bat, and turned into THE BIG BAD BAT.
It makes perfect sense.
So why didn't he transform all this time? The covenant of the vampire coven must have included masquerade from the human world. After the establishment of the vampire coven, Markus' vampire bat form might have been forbidden by Viktor. See? We really need another Underworld prequel that further explores the origins of both immortal races! I would name the movie "Underworld: Origins". I would love to see more Markus, Viktor, Amelia!
The Uber Lycan, Quint, in Underworld Awakening is super powerful as a result of the experiments conducted on Selene's family, the hybrids, Michael and Eve. Quint possessed immunity to silver, instant healing, and increased vastly in size after transformation...
That was possibly what Lucian and Raze had always strived to achieve in Underworld 1. They wanted to create a hybrid for study, and thereby enhance themselves. I don't think they actually wanted to TURN THEMSELVES into hybrids.
For example, wikia writers consider Selene a hybrid as well! No, she became an ENHANCED VAMPIRE after drinking Alexander's blood, just like Quint was an ENHANCED LYCAN.
Remember the syringe containing Amelia's blood? That was meant for Michael. I believe Michael would be way more powerful than he is now, had he been injected with Amelia's blood instead of being bitten by Selene.
So why didn't he transform all this time? The covenant of the vampire coven must have included masquerade from the human world. After the establishment of the vampire coven, Markus' vampire bat form might have been forbidden by Viktor.
We really need another Underworld prequel that further explores the origins of both immortal races! I would name the movie "Underworld: Origins". I would love to see more Markus, Viktor, Amelia!
Didn't like Underworld Awakening? Pity. That film is one of my favourites, along with Underworld 1 & 2.
Back to the main topic, the key issue is how the Corvinus strain mutates. Like I said, there needs to be more backstories.
Here is what I have always believed after watching the films:
Corvinus strain + bat virus = the original vampire (Markus)
Corvinus strain + wolf virus = the original werewolf (William)
The original vampire virus + human body = vampire (Viktor, who was turned by Markus)
The original werewolf virus + human body = werewolf (beings that could not transform back to human form until death.)
Vampire + human body = vampire (Viktor's army)
Werewolf + human body = werewolf (still savage beast, unable to take human form until death)
Later, lycans evolved out of werewolves with the advent of Lucian (the original lycan).
Lycan virus + human body = lycan (Raze)
Vampire virus + Lycan virus + human body with dormant Corvinus strain = vampire lycan hybrid (Michael)
Another way of Hybridization is through birth, for example, Sonja and Lucian's unborn child, and Eve. This is beyond the scope of the topic.
I hope that answers why Markus was bat like, whereas Viktor wasn't. Simply put, Viktor had a human body to begin with. The original vampire takes Corvinus strain and bat bites to create. The event of Markus being infected by bat alters the Corvinus virus and creates vampire virus. When the vampire virus is applied to a human body, the condition is totally different. The human bodies get transformed by the vampire virus, but they don't resemble their sire, Markus.
What also interests me is this question: what would happen if the bat that bit Markus had bitten Alexander the founding father instead? Would Alexander have changed into a vampire?
My hypothesis is: No. After Alexander bonded with the plague virus that made him the first Immortal, he became truly impervious. In fact, he became more than impervious. His blood was so powerful that it could significantly influence Selene, enhancing her, endowing her with the power of evolution.
Years after the plague, Alexander Corvinus lay with a human lady and gave birth to the twins, who inherited the Corvinus strain. However, Markus and William, were not exactly like their father genetically, because their DNA was a mixture of Alexander's and their HUMAN mother's.
It was the human part that made Alexander's children volatile and susceptible to the influences of bat and wolf viruses. Therefore, Markus and William, not as impervious as Alexander, became the blood leaders of vampires and werewolves.
Corvinus strain + bat virus = the original vampire
Corvinus strain + bat virus = the original werewolf
It should be noted that after these events, Markus and William became impervious.
After the combination reaction, they became the Vampire and the Werewolf; the compounds were no longer volatile, because the unstable features had been erased. It was human DNA that could be easily influenced. Had Alexander's third child been bitten by a bat or wolf, he wouldn't have been able to "walk the lonely road of mortality as a human".
Yes, the Corvinus strain mutates only once. You say this is not true, "Between Lucian and Sonja's unborn child and Michael, we see that the different strains can combine, provided the host has the right genetic make up to survive the procedure."
But it is important to remember that hybrid by birth is extremely rare, in Sonja's own words, "a miracle". We do not yet know the exact condition for hybrids to be conceived, but in the prequel it was the union of a pure blood vampire and a pure blood lycan. In the case of Selene's family, it was the union of a vampire lycan Corvinus hybrid and a vampire. So my guess is, to conceive hybrids, pure bloods or a Corvinus hybrid need to be involved.
The main topic here is the construction of a hybrid through artificial procedures. Like I said, a HUMAN descendant with positive Corvinus blood is necessary material. As mentioned earlier, humans are susceptible to viruses. Vampires and lycans are impervious. They have fast healing. Their bodies are strong enough to protect themselves from external influences.
Markus might have become a hybrid of vampire and lycan under one condition: right from the start, when he was bitten by bat, he was also bitten by the wolf that bit William. During the process of transformation while Markus was not impervious, his body might combine both bat and wolf viruses, making him Vamperewolf.
That's doesn't make sense, both Marcus and William were also human like Michael with the Corvinus special gene that allowed them to transform to a vampire or lycan. Michael was transformed into a lycan before he became a hybrid. So why cant both Marcus and William become hybrids too?
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