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Endless graphic violence - pointless, ultimately

posted 9 years ago by !!!deleted!!! (52800787)
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So, everybody goes berserk about this due to it being a good rendition of comics/graphic novels culture, with some nice black and white cinematography with splashes of color.

Sure, it's kind of cool.

But ultimately it is very boring, even though there are some very beautiful women in it.

It's just one violent killing after the other, and the other, and the other, and the other.

People who are insiders feel that this subculture of comics is very cool. They probably despise anybody who doesn't share their adoration for it.

Oh well, count me among the latter.

[–] fede_4488 9 years ago

Go watch a Woody Allen movie, grandpa.

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[–] Don_Cheech 8 years ago

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[–] poem 9 years ago

BORING ?????????????????????????

This is absolutely divine, very archaic, very basic, very moral, very romantic.

My favorite is Marv. One great oneliner after the other, and all the time the story is completely over the top.

My second favorite is John Hartigan. Such a great story ! Very romantic.

I could have done without the Jackie Boy storyline, which was a lot less intense, but then it has Brittany Murphy R.I.P.

I think the only thing that gets close to this is the original Conan stories by Robert E. Howard.

One of my absolute favorite movies.

I really hate the newer version they made of it, though. Yes its more material but its far less intense. An action movie needs drive - instead, they slowed it down.

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[–] akingofcomedy 8 years ago

yeah I'm with grandpa myself - the heads on the wall kinda killed the romance for me

I've been more torn on this film than just about any other I've seen in 20 years. I hated it when I first saw it, but couldn't stop talking about it for days - for both its cinematic wonder and its pointless storytelling. In the years since I've seen it twice more to better understand what I did and didn't like. Some amazing performances, sharp concepts and killer production design. However it's all to serve a message that ultimately has no ray of hope or light in it, either in story or characters. Everything and everyone is grim, bleak, hateful and hostile - and its depictions of "love" might as well be a blurry tattoo on a dead hooker's ass. There's a reason 99.99% of films contrast dark with light. That doesn't mean a film can't break those rules and still succeed. Just that this one didn't.

As a friend of mine admitted (who totally loved it by the way)... you can only spend so much time in a toilet before you start smelling like a toilet. That's all this movie needed - some occasional air freshener

[–] icequeen_vienna 8 years ago

I gave up watching after 15 minutes - the 'noir' style was overdone and it came across like Rodriguez was trying to be too clever. I much preferred 'Planet Terror' and 'Desperado'.

[–] Mr-Fusion 8 years ago

It's not boring, but the blood does get to a point where the stylized use of white ink (in lieu of) feels refreshing. It's extremely faithful to the comics, but this is also like marathoning Miller's stories. So yeah, it does kinda get old.

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[–] IndyCelt 8 years ago

Beautiful cinematography, beautiful women--how can it get boring? I mean, how often do you see 'beautiful' or 'excellent' anything out of Hollywood?

If this movie had anything else going for it, it could be one of the greats. If they cut three of the episodes and tried to make a decent story from one, would that have worked? I haven't read any of Miller's work, but surely his work has more substance than what we saw here?

They should drop the whole film noir ambience they went for, it's really embarrassing if one has seen good noir movies. As presented with 4 cut-down episodes, they should have stayed straight forward like a summer blockbuster action or superhero movie--noir needs substance and story over which to effectively layer its style and mood.

Anyway, I've seen a lot worse.

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

I haven't read any of Miller's work, but surely his work has more substance than what we saw here?

It really doesn't.

Let's be bad guys.

[–] Loganp812 8 years ago

I agree. Like Brian Michael Bendis, Frank Miller wrote some good stories earlier in his career, but he's since gotten progressively lazier to the point where even the protagonists act completely out of character.

[–] poem 8 years ago

That probably explains the second movie.

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[–] akingofcomedy 8 years ago

it's very interest to hear all this b/c I remember right after first seeing the film, saying to my friends that all three protagonists here had the same type mission, conflict and backstory - whether on the right side of the law or not - and that whether you're following Clive Owen chase evil, Mickey Rourke chase evil or Bruce Willis chase evil - it all felt like the same rewarmed parable.

[–] FifthElement85 8 years ago

I loved it. Sorry.

[–] joelreitzloff 8 years ago

yep hated it too

[–] witchkeygirl 8 years ago

What's interesting is that everyone seems to have such a strong reaction to it. Nobody says "yeah, it's ok". Its either "I love it!" or "I hate it!"

I read the books. I loved them. I saw the movie. I loved it.

People who are insiders feel that this subculture of comics is very cool. They probably despise anybody who doesn't share their adoration for it.

I'm fine with people who don't like the movie (or the books). Super ultra-exaggerated violence isn't everyone's cup of tea. I get that. I personally dislike romantic comedies but I don't go to their boards and rail on and on about how much I hate those movies. Pointless. Agree to disagree and move on.

I haven't seen A Dame to Kill For, which was my favorite out of the graphic novel series.

[–] Pozdnyshev 7 years ago

Yeah I agree. I think it's awesome how they pulled off bringing Miller's vision to the big screen. I really do, it's such an accurate adaptation that there's some genius there.

But something about the way the story uses extreme violence to entertain, I don't know, it just makes me feel weird. It literally uses horrible things happening to people's bodies as a kind of eye-candy which feels very juvenile and dishonest to me. Violence and death is actually pretty horrible most of the time.

Even "Robocop 2" gave more of a sense of grief and horror around death. Here it's just like people are disposable.